NCAA Hoops Offseason (everyone: red dick LOL)

[DAntae]

This might perhaps be the best time of the year for me. I love my college hoops and my Heels. However this season will be a success if they can get to the big dance.

I like Oklahoma to win it all. Sampson is a great coach and he always seems to have a team skilled in the backcourt. play good defense and win the rebounding battle.

Other teams to watch are Louisville,Duke,Michigan State and Villanova. If Sumpter has recovered from his surgery and has no problems watch out. UConn and Arizona also look strong. Let the trash talk begin...or not.

[pat]

spartans are returning four players from last year's final four team, so common sense should tell you that they're more than capable of repeating that feat, and maybe even go further. i'm expecting a lot from them this year, and can't wait to get it started.

duke ranked #1, not much of a surprise there.

[kevin]

i'm expecting my spartans to win it all this season

there's no reason they can't do it

[DAntae]

I mentioned michigan state in my list of teams to watch. let me remind you I picked them to make a run last preseason when everyone else had written them off. I think they have an excellent chance, just not sure if they score enough with some of the other teams I listed. they will rebound like a beast but it wouldn't surprise me if they won it all.

[Spartan]

volsvolsvols

nit baby

[huh?]

knightsknightsknights

nit baby
fixed for me

[DAntae]

yeah and for the love of cole...bama should be pretty damn good.

[Sex Cauldron]

UConn's success will likely hinge on a court case. For those that aren't aware, their entire starting backcourt allegedly (read: probably) stole a bunch of laptops. If they're convicted, it's walk-on city, bay-bee.

Not sure if UGA is going to bother fielding a team this year, I'll have to look into that.

[Spartan]

thanks to you guys, we're guaranteed 5th in the sec east. at worst.

[:bang:]

goheels
its going to be a long year

[DAntae]

tell me about it...however a 4th place finish in the acc is in the cards. woohoo 4th place. this is the learning season for the infusion of new players, next season its about competing for an acc title.

[Nefarious]

Was away as sideshowDAn's Heels won the title last year so congrats (formerly ticktockman/blue devil fan)

With what the Heels have coming in next season along with Duke's class this year and a top 10 next these two teams might be playing 4 times in 2007/'08.

Seems every year Duke has a shot at the title so do the Huskies and that's one of the teams that worries me PG or not. Calhaun will figure out something like all good coaches.

I don't know why but Big 12 teams never seem to worry me no matter what the talent they have. MSU looks the best in the Big 10 and the two blue grass state teams should be competetive. Zags are in a lot of people's Top 10.....even though their fortune has changed the past few years in the Big Dance.

Should be a fun season to watch.

[DAntae]

wondered where the hell you went.

I still think nova is the best team in the big east this season. however time will expose all.

[Spartan]

vols will be second in the east. you heard it here.

[DAntae]

yeah lets mark our calendars for a second place finish in a divided conference. woohoo. I kid.

[Orange-Neck]

Jesus, it's like being a Kentucky fan having to look foward to basketball to forget about football. :ashamed:

[DAntae]

one year of disappointment vols fans. it will work itself out like it always does for you rocky top bastards. anyhow look forward to hoops and maybe 18 wins ahahahhaa.

[Orange-Neck]

NIT champions bitch. You heard it first.

[huh?]

bump
So Seton Hall got assraped by Duke last nite.





ahahahhaahhaahaahahahahahah

[Spartan]

memphis-alabama tonight.

roll tide, yuck.

[DAntae]

it makes you feel dirty to say it. go take a long shower and cut out your tongue.

[Spartan]

I dunno. aside from tennessee, ole miss, vandy (in that order), Alabama is probably 4th. not necessarily in basketball, but just as a whole. hell, I probably respect alabama more than any other sec program.

you know that anyways...

I said yuck since I never really have liked gottfried and he's owned tennessee. vols haven't beaten the tide since 1998, and that goes back to when tennessee had much better teams and talent. plus calipari can suck my nutsack and go to hell. in that order. of course.

[Mayor Quimby]

Not sure why you would take Oklahoma, sideshow Dan. They are easily the most over-rated team in the Big 12. However that being said I am very biased, seeing as the Huskers reside in the conference. They will be formidable and I promise you an upset of the Sooners when they stroll in to Lincoln this year. Big 12 in general is a weak basketball conference. Texas will dominate and then you have a plethera of evenly matched teams following them. Iowa St. and Curtis Stinson could be really good.

[kevin]

texas is going to be very good. daniel gibson is already as good as t.j. ford. aldridge is a beast in the middle. i think they'll win the big 12 easily. ok has an outside chance, but i doubt it

[Spartan]

I'd look out for ISU up north...

[kevin]

si ranked northern iowa #17 in the country. are they really that good?

[HomertheGreat]

it should be an interesting year for matt painter and purdue. the frontcourt is really the only bright spot on the team with landry and that UConn transfer. the backcourt is going to be interesting with 3 freshman starting. they would exceed my expectations if they made it to the NIT.

[Mayor Quimby]

Nothern Iowa is fantastic. They might be the best team in the state of Iowa. Jacobsen is a terrific play maker.

[DAntae]

I like the sooners lineup. like how sampson gets his teams to always play defense. hell I just think sampson is one of the top 5 coaches in the game, and he doesn't get the credit he deserves. I think they will go unchallenged in that conference for the most part. not an undefeated run through conference play but not far off.

[Mayor Quimby]

Texas Tech gets steamrolled by Syracuse, and Wake gets upset. Interesting night of College basketball.

[DAntae]

its early. don't read too much into anything. heels lost their opener last season. give the big teams a few games to get there stuff straight.

[Spartan]

yeah.

vols got an invite to maui last thanksgiving and beat stanford by 34 to open the season. needless to say, it went downhill from there.

[El Sid]

I'm gonna say it now....

UCLA is a dark horse and will go at least 3 rounds in the NCAA tourny.

seriously...i was at the game the other night...these kids are GOOD.

[kevin]

young team, but i like 'em to challenge arizona in the pac 10

[DAntae]

sid nothing personal but you have said that 3 straight seasons. I understand you love your school and your sports teams...but lets be realistic. however they can be an 18 win team. they can't compete with arizona though.

[El Sid]

its just my mandatory disclaimer =P

[Nefarious]

Spartans and Cardinals were beat in huge upsets, UNC struggled against Gardner Webb (never heard of them truthfully) and Nati gets by Murray State. Love college basketball. Tar Heels have struggled so far but by mid season I think they will make a push to get in the Big Dance. Interested in seeing what BC is going to accomplish this year having moved from the Big east to ACC.

[kevin]

nice game against hawaii, boys

seriously, what the fuck

[pat]

they have basketball in hawaii now?

but yeah, i have no fucking clue what happened there. christ, it wasn't even a close game at all.

now to watch the lions lose and make this absolutely wonderful sports weekend in the state of michigan complete.

[Mayor Quimby]

Nebraska wins their first tournament of the year. By the Hawaii is typically pretty good. The Wac is not a bad basketball conference, and Hawaii has been to the dance a few times in the past five years.

[Homer Jay]

The problem isn't that Hawaii is a bad team, they way win the WAC. It's that MSU is one of the favorites to win the national title and they shouldn't be losing a non-conference game like that one.

[Spartan]

it happens. granted, shouldn't happen by that many points, but it happens.

I'd take the Stanford loss a LOT more seriously. UC-Irvine has been the scum of the Big West.

[box elder]

I'll leave an obligitory mention of the Terps here and move on for now.

[kevin]

statestatestate

not concerned about the losses. playing tough teams will only help down the road. just as long as the schedule isn't TOO tough

[DAntae]

looking forward to watching my heels lose...err I mean win tomorrow night against the illini. will be watching it on hd. its the only way to watch a loss.

[DAntae]

well it was a close game. considering four freshman were on the court most of the game. noel played with energy, but ginyard and hansbrough are going to be the two guys who make the bigger impact right away. get your licks in now, this team is going to make the field of 64. not sure how far they can go...not a terribly deep team.

illinois and unc both were sloppy. lots of bad passes and silly fouls. usually early season stuff. brown was off for illinois but still managed to make a few big plays.

heels play kentucky next...uhoh.

also fsu beating purdue by 40 what the hell was that.

[Spartan]

honestly

I understand FSU is far improved and had a good 04-05, but 40? purdue? gene keady?

[DAntae]

exactly what I thought. it has to be a more troubling sign for purdue, because I know fsu isn't that damn good.

[Mayor Quimby]

Because you care..... Nebraska goes to 5-0 with a big win over Marquette 84-74.

[DAntae]

nice win for vandy at the buzzer.

duke was pushed by indiana. thought duke got away with a few moving screens...but what the hey.

maryland was impressive on the boards. down by double figures in the first and still won by double figures. currently ranked 20. if health issues don't hurt them, team is one of the top 8 teams in the country. based on the starting lineup alone.

[box elder]

^ i think maryland could be a really good team (and obviously i hope they will be), but i'm a little worried about them. i mean, it is impressive that we were down by 15 halfway through the first half and ended up winning by almost 30, but we continue to play like shit in the first half of every game. now, against these teams that we're way better than, it's okay -- we still win. but once we start ACC play, we gotta come hotter out of the gates or we'll dig too big a hole to climb out of.

[DAntae]

well at home you can have sluggish starts. its early, but one thing I can tell you. maryland has some of the best one on one defenders in the country. strawberry will lock down the best perimiter player for each team. so when they play duke reddick will have to just hit big shot after big shot. strawberry won't allow him to get free. the offense is still finding itself. again early season offensive troubles are common. teams are getting comfortable against real competition. better to struggle now than later.

way to go nevada. eat it kansas...eat it.

[box elder]

yeah, there're definitely players i really like on the team, including strawberry and gist. but we also have hot-head players like caner-medley and garrison who take too many dumb shots. and mike jones will explode for 9 points in 2 minutes, but then disappear for the next 20. don't get me wrong, i've got high hopes for this team, and i think we can get our offense together, but we better do so quick.

although, we haven't been playing all that great the last few years and we've still beaten Duke 3 times in a row.

[DAntae]

caner-medley is the teams best player topto bottom. guy will be an all acc 1st team selection. don't consider him a hot head. he does get ticky tack fouls from time to time. he is one of the most poised guys on the team. guy just wants to win. team will be in good shape. trust in gary williams.

[box elder]

do you watch maryland games often? i watch every one of them, and caner-medley is kind of far from poised if you ask me. when he gets a good rebound or something he always has to thump his chest or flex or something. he'll take stupid jump shots with 20 seconds on the shot clock, he'll drive into the lane and instead of kicking it out take an off-balance fade away jumper with 3 guys in his face, etc etc etc.
don't get me wrong, i like the guy. but i really wish he'd play smarter sometimes.

and it has nothing to do with trusting gary williams, believe me. i love gary williams. i was going to school there when we won the national title and that's a feeling i'll never forget.

[DAntae]

watch an excess of maryland games the last 5 years. still plan to watch several since the move. he is enthusiastic but his play down the stretch of games has been incredible the last two seasons. if gilchrist would have tried to play team ball that team would have been a success last season. shot selection is questionable for many players. he takes many more good shots than bad.

I assume you've been to the new comcast center. well not brand new but you get my drift. seeing that part of the court they installed from winning the title is impressive. also got myself a piece of the field house. ordered it and 8 months later got a decent size chunk mounted.

[box elder]

so are you from around here? i saw you had the 'skins logo, but i know a lot of people in the south (esp north and south carolina) follow the skins for some reason.

anyway, yeah, i've been to the comcast center many times. i can't go anymore, cuz i'm no longer a student and i'm not rich, but i liked it a lot. i was actually at the Duke game where maryland students chanted "fuck you, JJ." i didn't think it was so bad, myself, but you know the duke lovin' media's gonna jump all over that. did you happen to see that duke/md game last year on ESPN (i think it was the one in cameron)? after we beat their ass, sportscenter had some fluff peice about how bad JJ Reddick has it and especially when he goes against those thugs at maryland. it made me so angry that they did that, especially after a great maryland win and the fact that JJ lied about some sign that wasn't even there (i was there: believe me, nobody had any sign saying they would rape JJs little sister fa krists sake). i was so pissed after that i sent ESPN some long ass angry e-mail about how much i hate their scummy network and their duke bias, but they probably never even read it.

anyway, sorry about the rambling... and my dad got a peice of the cole floor too; it's pretty cool.

[DAntae]

from richmond,va...however soon to be wife and her pop are both u of md alumni. thus it has been rammed down my throat. however I like how williams has rebuilt the program. I also believe lefty got a raw deal. those are discussions for another time.

I do remember that news piece. it did detract from the maryland victory. as a fan you have to the right to cheer,boo and even bash. there is a line but I have heard far worse as many sporting events. about the remarks about his sister...it was a sign? I thought someone yelled it out towards him. parts of the story are still very fuzzy.

your a umd grad and your not rich? what the hell.

[El Sid]

btw guys...

if you ever watch a UCLA game on TV...i play trumpet in the band. I'll probably be at the Wooden Classic next saturday when UCLA plays Nevada (good game so it'll probably be shown nationally). so watch for me!

[DAntae]

hey kentucky...suck my carolina blue balls. oh this feels good, not national title good but good.

[kevin]

haha i love when uk loses

[pat]

it's funnier when duke loses (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=254000038), but yeah, seeing kentucky go down makes me smile too.

[kevin]

basically an msu fan for life now... since i know pretty much for sure that i'll be going there in the fall... i can't wait to go to the home games next year

[Spartan]

what a glorious day

wake up and see kentucky losing at home. and it stayed that way. I live for days like this.

[box elder]

it's funnier when duke loses (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=254000038), but yeah, seeing kentucky go down makes me smile too.


god, duke got lucky as hell tonight. they should have lost at home to VA tech! do i smell an overrated #1 duke team? oh wait, that happens every single year.

[nowhere]

Why does God hate me so much?

[kevin]

state plays #8 bc on tuesday, which should be their last real challenge for quite some time. i'm looking forward to conference play big time

[gravymaster]

The way the NCAA caters to Duke is fucking disgraceful.

[Spartan]

aside from acc playing some conference games this early (gatech-uva, duke-vatech), which I find weird, could someone clue me in as to what happened in the duke game?

[gravymaster]

Va Tech scored with a second left, the refs went back and put .6 back on the clock (thus giving Duke a chance to catch+shoot) and they threw it all the way down court and scored.

[Spartan]

jesus

[DAntae]

va tech beating duke in basketball would have been the most humiliating loss in recent memory for duke.

msu did what it does best. rebound and limit those second chance buckets. they do so many things right and it puts them in position to win. more teams should follow that example.

also oklahoma lost to nova. don't take much from that. if they play at oklahoma its a 10 point win the other way. sooners are deeper and have better coaching. early season game played on the road against a top 5 team will only benefit them.

[El Sid]

aside from acc playing some conference games this early (gatech-uva, duke-vatech), which I find weird, could someone clue me in as to what happened in the duke game?

Duke was down by 1. the guy basically nailed a half-court shot to win the game.

[morbot]

Man, the UW (#18) v. Gonzaga (#6) game last night was hot. Huskies led almost the whole game but the Zags were never far behind. I think there was something like 9 changes of the lead in the last 11 minutes. I wish I had been there the place was going nuts... the commentators repeatedly mentioned how it felt like they were watching a game being played in March, not December.

The Huskies won to keep their home winning streak alive at 29 now.

[The mayor of Albuquerque]

What Morbo said. That was a great game.

[kevin]

caught some of that game as well. morrison is a helluva player.

[El Sid]

Morrison looks like a freakin klutz out there. he runs funny, he dribbles funny...but every goddamn shot he throws up...even if its garbage...still seems to go in. i hate players like that. The guy has no skill...it's all fundamental shit.

[DAntae]

the exact opposite of guys like toby bailey and the o'bannon brothers...you know lots of athleticism but no smarts or fundamentals. just busting your balls a bit.

[box elder]

that shot morrison made at the end of the game was pure luck. first of all, it was a dumb shot; there was time to get a better look and they didn't need a three. second of all, it was way off and just glassed in. how anyone can call that an "amazing play" by morrison is beyond me. besides, the dude needs to wash his fucking hair and shave that crap off his face before i'll ever take him seriously.

anyway, big win for the Terps last night. we needed to come out strong for once and we did. we also needed to pull out a win against a ranked opponent, and we finally did. starting out ACC play with a win doesn't hurt either. if you're gonna have a chance in the ACC you must protect your home court, so i'm glad to see we did that after losing at home to teams like clemson last year. good to see ibekwe beast out too; hope that continues.

[kevin]

#12 spartans keep rolling with their easy schedule... cleveland state up next, haha

[bmac]

replace #12 spartans with #8 illini and cleveland with coppin and you have my thoughts as well. january 5th should prove interesting.

[kevin]

i'm more worried about indiana at this point. they look pretty tough. iowa too. big ten should be a lot of fun this year, as usual.

[rickey]

Does anyone hate Dook, Poet Laureate of Faggotry JJ Redick, Coach K, and all the rest of them as much as I do?

I hate Dick Vitalie, aka Dukie V. That sonofabitch is so pro-Duke it makes me nauseous.

Needless to say, they played a good game against Texas the other night.

[Spartan]

people hate duke?

who knew.

[DAntae]

I hate them, but respect the hell out of what coach k has done. he is the best coach in the game...you can argue anyone else and they are a distant second at best. that said I still hope they die in a bus crash. plane would be to easy and they wouldn't suffer. bus crash is the way to go.

reddick has become an all around player. he always could hit the jumper, his defense and passing have improved. he also attacks the basket without the ball more each time I see him.

can't believe I gave them credit.

[Spartan]

me neither

and while I get the hate (i frankly don't give a fuck about duke) it just gets old I think. don't waste time and attention on them.

[box elder]

My hatred for duke is so complete, there's nothing on this earth that could make me hate them any more. I respect your opinion, Dan, but I think coach K is so over-rated it's laughable. How many McDonalds all-American’s does he get every year? three? It’s pretty easy to coach a guy who can hit 15 of 20 three pointers. Then he has the audacity to suggest that duke actually gets bad calls because the refs are so aware of the stereotype of them getting good calls. I challenge anyone to watch the duke/Maryland final four game and tell me duke didn’t get some pretty sweet calls in their favor. And furthermore . . .

[At this point Bob'sYerUncle81 went off on a tangent about how he thinks coach K is a borderline racist, but I decided against leaving it in - Editor]

And how annoying is that whiny bitch JJ? You’re from VA and you go to duke, you keep you armed raised as you run down court after hitting a shot, you make faces at the crowd and then you whine like a little girl and recite gay, talent-devoid poetry to ESPN in some fluff-piece about how bad you've got it and how everybody hates you for no reason. God, I cannot stand that guy.

[DAntae]

all the big name programs get two or three mcdonald's all americans, not to mention nike camp etc...he however always wins. to say the guy is overrated is a fucking joke. he has had some teams that had less talent and found a way to win. see the unlv game. just saying coach k is far from overrated. the guy knows the game. you don't see his teams kill themselves with tons of mistakes.

[box elder]

no. i'm sorry. he gets more top recruits than anybody. there are other schools that get very good recruits every year (like connecticut, who steal players from baltimore that have already given letters of intent to UMD) and they're good every year too. they may not be quite as good as duke, but they're close. coach K gets away with shit that nobody else could, too. he gets recruitment videos disguised as commercials playing during the tournament (which is a period in which schools are forbidden to recruit, by the way), he gets fluff pieces on ESPN three times a year, and duke vitale talking him up all day long to boot, plus duke gets a 1 seed in the tourney every year whether they deserve it or not. you think young kids that love basketball (i.e. the best players in the country) aren't seeing all this and it's not helping them make their decision of where to play? look to schools that consistently compete without much out of state recruitment and you'll find truly the best coaches in the country.

frankly, whenever duke doesn't make the final 4 it's a testament to how overrated K really is.

[J.Re*]

little bitter, perhaps?

[DAntae]

your letting you disgust for duke and coach k cloud your mind. he lands one or two bluechip guys each season. almost all those overhyped all americans fall flat for each school. very few pan out. the guy is the best coach in the college game. he has won with several different styles of play. give the man his due then lets bash duke together.

[box elder]

little bitter, perhaps?


Oh, of course! I must be a "hater" right? I forgot; nobody has any actual criticism to levy against anyone else unless they are just jealous and bitter, huh? I’m so sick of that pathetic reasoning.

And Dan, I don’t think I’m letting anything cloud my judgment. I never said he was a bad coach, just not the best. How can you say that I must be deluding myself if I don’t admit he’s the very best coach in the country? It’s your opinion that he’s the best; am I not allowed to disagree?

[Rekart]

Maybe because he is the best coach in the country? I believe that as well, and I'm no Duke fan. I like them better than UNC though.

[DAntae]

don't ever speak badly of unc again, it hurts my heart.

yeah its an opinion, but look at his body of work. of any current coach no one stands up to him. the reason he attracts those number of big time high schoolers is because he produces all americans,wins conference and national titles and produces a steady flow of nba players.

[box elder]

producing great teams with great players is quite a feat. i'm not being sarcastic, either. it takes talent to be consistently great -- even with the best players in the country.

however, i personally think it takes more coaching talent to produce consistently good teams with mediocre-to-good players. that's just how i look at it. no big deal.

i certainly don't think "the best coach in the country" is something that can be a matter of fact, though, Rekark. sorry. you shan't convince me of that.

[:bang:]

maryland fans are the worst ever. what active coach has as many rings and final fours as coach k? sure he gets good recruits, but that's part of the game. quit being bitter, he lets all of the juco guys go to maryland

[Rekart]

I think you have to include getting talent as PART of being a great NCAA coach though. Your system works better for the NBA, where coaches have much less say in who they get as players. In the NCAA, recruiting is a major part of the game, and HAS to be included when determining great coaches. So, Duke's consistent great seasons and great recruiting mean that Coach K IS great, and arguably the best coach in the country. It's an easy argument at that.

I know I repeated myself there. Reinforcement.

[box elder]

maryland fans are the worst ever.


awww, did ESPN tell you that? look: Maryland fans say "you suck," and sportscenter does three stories about it. then when duke fans have "leave DJ strawberry alone, we're better than that" on their chant sheet, sportcenter makes a point of announcing it to the world 20 times.....unfortunately, what they fail to mention EVER is that the very year before that, duke fans didn't "leave DJ alone" at all. in fact, they brought bags of flour to the game and rubbed it on their faces to point out the fact that his father had a drug problem. they (along with florida and many other schools) chanted "crack baby" at him. in fact, duke, VA, and a couple other places even chanted "crack baby" at Juan Dixon, whose parents died of drug related HIV when he was a kid!!! but does the media report that shit?! nooo. because duke is so fucking classy and nobody would want to taint their name.

personally, i think chanting "crack baby" at somebody whose parents are dead is a hell of a lot worse than saying "fuck you JJ." but still Maryland fans are the ones pointed out every time as being classless. why? because we’re not all rich spoiled brats like duke students?

and again, why must i be "bitter" just because i don't agree with your opinion that K is the best coach in the country? think about that for a second.

[edit: i also do not think recruitment is a part of coaching. coaching is coaching, in my opinion. therefore to say he is "the best coach" would mean he is the best at teaching basketball and game-planning basketball only. the other stuff is peripheral]

[DAntae]

maryland fans are the worst ever. what active coach has as many rings and final fours as coach k? sure he gets good recruits, but that's part of the game. quit being bitter, he lets all of the juco guys go to maryland


the juco line had me smiling from ear to ear.

[Rekart]

[edit: i also do not think recruitment is a part of coaching. coaching is coaching, in my opinion. therefore to say he is "the best coach" would mean he is the best at teaching basketball and game-planning basketball only. the other stuff is peripheral]

Explain how recruiting is not a part of being a good coach in the NCAA. That's OVER half their job, recruiting kids. They spend more time on that than they do the games, which isn't to say they aren't spending a hell of a lot of time on games too.

[box elder]

i guess it's subjective. but when i say a good coach, i mean someone who's good at coaching, not good at coaching plus all the other administrative stuff that coaches must do. obviously you have to be good at recruiting to keep a coaching job at a big program, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with the actual coaching aspect of the job.

to use another maryland-centric example: the coach of our football team (ralph friedgen) is a very good coach. the first 3 years he was here were the best years our program has had in ages. however, the last two years (when it was his kids on the field) we haven't been so great. it seems clear to me that he's not as good a recruiter as his predecessor. but, in my opinion that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a great coach.

[Rekart]

But maybe he ISN'T a good coach, he just had good talent left over from the previous coach. I personally think Friedgen is a good coach, but what I said is an obvious possibility.

[DAntae]

last point about coach k. his teams are known for not beating themsleves. they don't get out rebounded. they don't turn the ball over. they take good shots for the most part. they always play defense fron end to end of the court. the guy knows the game and how to teach it. let this point come to an end.

fridge is a hell of an offensive mind, and seems to gameplan well. however the guy can't recruit worth shit. he gets a couple of good players each year but with what he wants to do on offense he could and should attract bigger names.

how the hell did football come into this thread?

[:bang:]

1) i live near dc, i form my opinions on maryland fans based on personal experience
2) its hard to seperate coaching from recruiting
3) who else has coached duke ever? were the a power before coach k? not exactly a kentucky or unc before him (and i'm a unc fan)
4) look at the way duke plays. he takes these superstars and gets them to play d, pass the ball, ect. they don't really play like an allstar team
5) did you just cite maryland football? hahahahah

[DAntae]

when 2 out of 2 dan's tell you he is the best coach...its not something you can deny. I read it in a book or something.

[:bang:]

2 out of 2 unc fan dans at that

[DAntae]

yeah but then we look biased because we know we like a superior team with great history.

[box elder]

But maybe he ISN'T a good coach, he just had good talent left over from the previous coach. I personally think Friedgen is a good coach, but what I said is an obvious possibility.


well, the previous coach didn't do shit with the same players, so it must have been something. but i'll drop the football talk at that.

besides, why would i be bitter about duke? we've beaten them three times in a row, remember?

[DAntae]

yeah but historically coach k and duke have owned williams and maryland. until the last few seasons.

[box elder]

yeah but historically coach k and duke have owned williams and maryland. until the last few seasons.


what?! over the last 6 seasons, maryland is 7-9 against duke. and that includes the final four game that had the most blatently biased officiating i have ever seen in any sport.

you call that "owning"? okay, then.

[DAntae]

yeah final four officiating is biased. please on that point don't go any further. also see where I said "until the last few seasons"...jesus lefty was framed christ.

[J.Re*]

seriously, how much of impact does coaching have on basketball? there are plays, but its a very free environment. most of the kids the coach k recruits are so good that they could win a game without him (they literally will soon, when he goes off to coach the USA Team during the college season)

and i've never heard the cameron crazies called 'classy'. they get respect because they're creative. anyone can say "fuck jj" but who is clever enough to do this: Following the arrest of Lorenzo Charles of N.C. State for stealing pizzas, his pregame introduction was greeted by a shower of pizza boxes that practically covered the court.


but seriously, your bias is hilarious. continue to post.

[box elder]

they get respect because they're creative.


yeah, they're geniuses.

HOW DUKE GOT PUNK'D
Blue Devils fans tricked into chant of self-mockery
by Brendan Lowe

January 28, 2005

DURHAM, N.C. — The Cameron Crazies, Duke University’s famous student fan section, were bamboozled into chanting about a Duke scandal involving a former crack cocaine dealer instead of criticizing Terrapin forward Nik Caner-Medley as they had intended during Wednesday’s night’s nationally televised Duke-Maryland basketball game.

Upon entering Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke students received a cheer sheet full of “The Dirt on Our Opponent - University of Maryland Terrapins.” In the section on Caner-Medley, in addition to details of his summer arrest in Maine, was a statement about his girlfriend — “NCM’s girlfriend is named Myra, and her pet name for him is ‘Piggy.’”

The Duke fans made oink noises and chanted “Piggy” not only while Caner-Medley was attempting free throws but also throughout the game.

But the information about his girlfriend and her pet name for him was false, planted by a person who wished for the Cameron Crazies to embarrass themselves. If the Cameron Crazies had chanted “Myra Piggy,” it would have sounded like “Myron Piggie,” the name of a former basketball coach and crack cocaine dealer who pleaded guilty to giving money to college basketball players, including former Blue Devil Corey Maggette, in one of Duke’s scandals.

The prank worked, conceded Duke senior Stephen Rawson, the student in charge of controlling student admission to games and passing out the cheer sheets.

“We got hoodwinked on that,” he said. “Somebody pulled a fast one on us.”

A person claiming responsibility for the false information called The Diamondback Thursday night. The caller, a 23-year-old male from North Carolina who operated under the pseudonym “Lance Nichols,” said he received an e-mail copy of the cheer sheet for Duke’s last home game against Virginia. At the bottom of the sheet is a screen name, CheerSheets, that students can instant message to “contribute for the next game.”

“Nichols” made up a false screen name — JerseyKidatDuke — and by answering several trivia questions about Duke campus life with the help of his friend, a Duke graduate student, he was able to convince the student monitoring the CheerSheets screen name that he was a Duke student.

“Nichols” sent a copy of the alleged conversation to The Diamondback, but it was not independently verified that the conversation was legitimate.

The cheer sheets are not produced just for the Maryland game. Prior to every Duke home game, a select group of students brainstorm and solicit information from the Blue Devil community that the Cameron Crazies can use against the opponent, Rawson said. Cheer sheets are produced from this information and distributed to the students .

oh, and there's this:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/saikyodesuyo/Random/jj_is_redickulously_gay.jpg


if that's not funny, i don't know what is.

[DAntae]

coaching has a ton of impact in college athletics. skill or not, if you can't teach kids how to play in a system and to be smarter then you can have all the talent in the world.

[Rekart]

Ha... ha... ha... ha. A GAY JOKE! HOW ORIGINAL AND FUNNY! I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!

[Spartan]

everyone shut the fuck up

thread's gone off about this much longer than it should. I know the pre-conf season is boring as shit, but honestly.

[rickey]

Dook sucks. that is all.

[box elder]

Ha... ha... ha... ha. A GAY JOKE! HOW ORIGINAL AND FUNNY! I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!


you need to lighten the fuck up. it's a joke at a basketball game. is it supossed to be New Yorker material?

it probably should have said "redickulously over-rated," but that just doens't have the same umph, now does it?

[J.Re*]

yeah. 41 points against texas is overrated....

oh and But the information about his girlfriend and her pet name for him was false, planted by a person who wished for the Cameron Crazies to embarrass themselves. If the Cameron Crazies had chanted “Myra Piggy,” it would have sounded like “Myron Piggie,” the name of a former basketball coach and crack cocaine dealer who pleaded guilty to giving money to college basketball players, including former Blue Devil Corey Maggette, in one of Duke’s scandals.....the prank didn't even work, dude.

i'm not even a duke fan, im just defending them because you make no sense at all.

[box elder]

first of all, if you read the entire thing, the prank did work. they still fell for it and chanted BS throughout the entire game.

secondly, you (like everyone on this board, seemingly) think that for someone to be overrated, they must be bad. that's not necessarily the case. if someone says he's the best player in the country, and i think he's the second best player in the country, that would mean i think they are overrating him. so telling me he scored 41 points means nothing. i didn't say he sucked. god, i hope i don't have to explain that again.

the guy is good, there's no denying that. but people crown him the best shooter (or even player) in the country just because he plays on the east coast (especially since it's duke). that would make him overrated in my book. now, how does that not make sense?

either way, i'm not gonna argue about this anymore. this whole thing started because i don't happen to think coach k is the best coach in the country, and apparently that's blasphemy in these parts, so i'll shut up.

[DAntae]

everyone shut the fuck up

thread's gone off about this much longer than it should. I know the pre-conf season is boring as shit, but honestly.


your still pissed about vols football.

[J.Re*]

first of all, if you read the entire thing, the prank did work. they still fell for it and chanted BS throughout the entire game.not to the effect that it was meant to, by far. inefficient maryland students.
secondly, you (like everyone on this board, seemingly) think that for someone to be overrated, they must be bad. that's not necessarily the case. if someone says he's the best player in the country, and i think he's the second best player in the country, that would mean i think they are overrating him. so telling me he scored 41 points means nothing. i didn't say he sucked. god, i hope i don't have to explain that again.

the guy is good, there's no denying that. but people crown him the best shooter (or even player) in the country just because he plays on the east coast (especially since it's duke). that would make him overrated in my book. now, how does that not make sense?who's better?

[box elder]

inefficient maryland students.


Reading Comprehension: It wasn't a Maryland student who pulled the prank.

[J.Re*]

now, if you'd like to tackle my other point

[box elder]

A case could be made for Rudy Gay, Randy Foye, Maurice Ager, Taj Gray, Darius Washington, Adam Morrison, etc. Who's to say who's "better"? Let's not forget that J.J. has Sheldon Williams (another pre-season All-American) to take the heat off of him. If you don't think that makes him look better, think again.

I guess it boils down to the fact that I’m not into stating absolutes in an area where so many factors come into play, so when there seems to be some “hands down, he’s the best” kind of statements floating around, I’m always going to think it’s an overstatement. Alright, now I really am going to drop it.

[Spartan]

lost in this fucking worthless duke discussion is alabama's monumental choke. fuck you, gottfried.

we can't all lose by 25 at the half to temple.

[DAntae]

yeah but its bama...who can really be surprised. oh wait I am. shit.

[huh?]

princeton offense lol:
PRINCETON, N.J. (AP) -- In the lowest-scoring Division I game since the introduction of the 3-point line, Monmouth, N.J., beat Princeton 41-21 Wednesday night.

Princeton tied the record for fewest points in a Division I game since the 3-point line started in 1986-87. Georgia Southern also finished with 21 in a 40-point loss to Coastal Carolina on Jan. 2, 1997.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=253480163
Also, i wish RU would stop this ridiculous longterm contract with Buffalo for hoops and football. we don't gain anything and have everything to lose.

[Spartan]

hahah, now thanks to you I'll know that rutgers and buffalo are trying to build a substantial series.

there were like 2 teams last year who lost with 24 points, but meh. princeton is down. that just means penn gets the automatic ivy league championship.

[DAntae]

rutgers/buffalo. I remember the football games.

[:bang:]

adam morrison clearly better than jj

and jj may be overrated, but that's due to GREAT FUCKING COACHING

[box elder]

Location: 69 love songs vol 2 - track 14??????


please tell me you're not from DC and a duke fan!

[kevin]

dan and danno are both the complete opposite... heels fans

[Spartan]

thread cheatsheet

dan. unc
danno. unc
mcstink. michigan state
huh. rutgers
pat. michigan state
bmac. illini
j.re. pitt
el sid. ucla
gravy. whoever the fuck he wants. but no doubt a wvu 'wagon jumper.
sex. uconn, uga.
cole. alabama
nefarious/ticktockman. duke
HtG. purdue (whoa)
rekart. colorado state, saint louis, pacific, NIU, about 50 other teams. meh.
me. tennessee. and ole miss, can't wait if they'll ever get rid of barnes.

[:bang:]

Location: 69 love songs vol 2 - track 14??????


please tell me you're not from DC and a duke fan!
no unc. i live in nova, from pittsburgh. dante calabria was 2 years older than me, and me and my buddies always said we'd root for wherever he went, and here we are like 13 years later. basically it goes: steelers, penn state football, wiz, pens, unc hoops

[Spartan]

rocky top

oh and lofton is the best shooter in the game. sorry folks.

[Orange-Neck]

Bruce Pearl is GOD, you will all bow down to next Krzyzewski (or however the fuck you spell his name.) The Vols rape Texas and have a 6-0 record. Watch them still be out of the top 25 in the new poll.

[Spartan]

they will be (after having zero points in either poll for any week this season; again early season polls are very useless) but we still have to go to stillwater next week.

you know sutton is taking notice.

[DAntae]

yeah the vols did look real smooth. great passing and they always found the open man. even more importantly those open guys hit the shots.

kentucky knocked pitino and the cards the fuck out.

heels take care of santa clara. considering what happened last year it was a must watch for me. santa clara has some good players, they got this enormous center. can't remember his name. hes over 7 feet and is close to big country size. has better mobility though. hit the boards and scored mostly off second chance buckets.

[Orange-Neck]

Fuck, the Vols aren't ranked in the coach's poll, but they are #26. Maybe they'll be ranked in the AP

[Spartan]

naturally.

early season polls are horrible enough, you'd imagine a domination at #7 texas and 6-0 would earn a spot. guess not.

[J.Re*]

definitely will be, they were the top unranked team going in to the texas game

[DAntae]

maybe fulmer ate the votes. yeah its the best I got.

[Orange-Neck]

maybe fulmer ate the votes. yeah its the best I got.


:rimshot:

[bmac]

nothing like a good ol' fashion beat down of mizzou to get me into the college basketball season

[kevin]

nice beatdown on lowly wisconsin-green bay. davis, brown and ager combined for 76 points. heh

[DAntae]

usc beat the heels soundly. it was tight for awhile. rotation isn't deep enough. freshman finally played like it last night. just best to move on as quick as possible.

[box elder]

got to check out a MD game first hand last night. too bad it was over by halftime; though we managed to play poorly enough in the 2nd half to almost let the lowly Deleware State team back in it! it was still a good time, and made me very nostalgic for my student days.

i just hope caner-medley can continue to play the way he has been the last few games. if he does, i'll admit i was wrong about him and you were right, DAn.

[DAntae]

the guy is a huge talent either way. all kids make mistakes but he makes so many damn fine plays.

[box elder]

no doubt there's talent there. all i ever questioned were some of his decisions, but, like i said, he seems to have calmed down a bit this year. (i doubt anyone national even showed highlights from this game, but NCM had a sweet drive-reverse layup that in an ACC game would have been all over sportscenter).

[DAntae]

terps should finish no worse than third in conference...still feel they are second best this season in the acc.

[Orange-Neck]

Tennessee 8-1 niggas

Fear the Orange

[Spartan]

quiet.

huge game at memphis coming up.

[Orange-Neck]

They didn't look stellar against Linscomb

[DAntae]

you do realize memphis might destroy the vols...and by might I mean will.

[kevin]

memphis looks pretty damned good... i expect them to be around come march

[Spartan]

you do realize memphis might destroy the vols...and by might I mean will.

yeah bro. it's gonna happen. doesn't mean it won't be another hyped up game for memphis.

as for memphis later on, meh, I don't see them going to the sweet sixteen. cal knows how to lose in march, no matter how good the teams are.

[DAntae]

if memphis does one thing badly...its miss free throws when they got the lead. it allows teams to creep back into games. vols got as athletic a front line as memphis. its the guard play which should be the big concern for the vols.

[Spartan]

I mean, i'm expecting nothing less than a 20 point loss. and I wish the game were coming up before sec play starts (around jan. 10-12), but meh. coach cal just HAS to find a way to fit everyone in, since that program is just too cool for school.

[DAntae]

memphis...come for the basketball stay for sex with john cals wife. thats how they get everybody.

[DAntae]

caner-medley had a big game bob. mccray has looked much more under control the last couple of games. they are rounding into shape earlier than I thought. not the toughest opponents, conference play is next up.

[box elder]

yeah the game last night wasn't on TV around here for some reason, but at one point i went onto yahoo! and saw the score was 29-25 with about 5 min left in the first half. when i checked again later, the score at the end of the half ended up being 48-30. so we can def go on some runs but i get worried about the slumps we go into as well. hopegfully that's just "playing down" to our opponents and will clear up come ACC time, but i hate when teams seem to "play down." that's how you lose to clemson 3 times in one season.

[kevin]

illinois, get ready for a dose of reality, ager style

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/stewart_mandel/03/25/msu.reax/p1_ager-ap.jpg

[DAntae]

yeah clemson...

ager just shit his pants.

[kevin]

goddamit i hate illinois, now i have to eat my words.

we'll get you march 4 in the breslin center, faggots

[Spartan]

a big perimeter day for the illini. good game, kicks off college basketball for real for me.

and this BADASS air force-byu blowout.

[DAntae]

got to admit this start by illinois has me surprised. I knew they were going to be talented, but I expected a couple of losses by now.

michigan state will get it together, they have played much better as of late. they are a team built for the long haul anyhow.

[Mayor Quimby]

Not sure why you would take Oklahoma, sideshow Dan. They are easily the most over-rated team in the Big 12. However that being said I am very biased, seeing as the Huskers reside in the conference. They will be formidable and I promise you an upset of the Sooners when they stroll in to Lincoln this year.


The Huskers make good of my guarantee with a 59-58 win! Joe McCray nails a three pointer with 5.2 seconds left to give the Huskers the Conference season opening game.

The Sooners don't use Gray and Bookout enough. Those guys are beasts inside but they rarely get touches.

[kevin]

illinois got destroyed by iowa today. ahahahah. this team is grossly overrated and i won't rest until everyone knows it

[DAntae]

quimby I know, its still early. I expect by the end of this month the sooners should take shape.

maryland going down by 14 was a huge surprise to me. losses happen but not to a inferior team by that many.

go heels...eat it wolfpack...eat it.

illinois finally falls.

uconn holds on by one.

good college hoops saturday.

[Peter Sector 8]

Nova is rolling

[DAntae]

no shit. they have the most unselfish team I have seen in years. see page 1 where I raved about them. they can slow it down and win with defense, or they can play the high scoring game. honestly I don't see a weakness that they can't overcome.

[box elder]

maryland going down by 14 was a huge surprise to me. losses happen but not to a inferior team by that many.



i was worried about this game. first of all, it's a road game in the ACC which are always tough (inferior team or no). secondly, i've been telling you all along that maryland starts way too slowly and that our offense disappears for long stretches (miami went on a 13-0 run to start the game and we never could overcome that -- we cut it to 1 point twice, but then we'd stop scoring and they'd run), plus having duke up next is bound to make teams "look past" somebody like miami. i'm afraid this season is starting to look eerily similar to last season, but i hope i'm wrong.

[DAntae]

terps just played sloppy as an entire team. no mystery there. don't think this is a performance that shows there real talent.

nova just fucked up my other post. west va is solid though.

[Spartan]

tennessee won at SC for the first time since...'99 in all likelihood. tennessee has never matched up well with odom, period, and most of the time a rout in columbia. down by 20 early, vols rallied with 10 3's in the second half.

I'm telling you...lofton is the best shooter in the game.

[kevin]

god i hate wisconsin

fortunately the two toughest games in conference play are over, and the spartans can roll off fourteen straight.

[Spartan]

of course they could, matchup-wise. but no one rolls off 14 straight conference wins in the big ten. shit happens, expect a loss or two.

but michigan state will surely be at top of the big ten when the reg. season is done.

[kevin]

sure, but i expect a finish at 13-3. 12-4 at the very worst. eight teams could realistically make the tournament. such a great conference. you can say acc..blah blah blah. the best basketball in the country is in the midwest.

[Mayor Quimby]

I believe the Big East is probably the best basketball conference. Nova, UCONN, WVU, Georgetown, Pitt are all great schools and also containing the likes of Cuse, Marquette, Louisville and Cinci.

[box elder]

please. which conference wins the national championship almost every year?

[DAntae]

acc/big east typically are the teams with the best depth. big ten and sec usually have a few top shelf teams who can play with anyone. just saying is all.

[Spartan]

I wouldn't begin to compare the big ten and sec dan. big ten wins, no argument.

big ten is about depth. sec simply is the worst of the major conferences when it comes to that.

[kevin]

please. which conference wins the national championship almost every year?

that doesn't say anything about the depth or overall quality of the conference. it could just be one outstanding team in the conference. the big ten put two teams in the final four last year when everyone shit on them.

big east is fine, but the only real title contender there is uconn, the rest are mearly good teams. plus there's sixteen damn teams in that conference. what do you expect

[J.Re*]

that doesn't say anything about the depth or overall quality of the conference. it could just be one outstanding team in the conference. the big ten put two teams in the final four last year when everyone shit on them.

big east is fine, but the only real title contender there is uconn, the rest are mearly good teams. plus there's sixteen damn teams in that conference. what do you expectyeah. boy, after nova lost. that conference sure went downhill :uhh:

check your bracketology fool. most teams in as of now.

five players are in my web design class, guess it has a reputation as being an easy A.

[box elder]

that doesn't say anything about the depth or overall quality of the conference. it could just be one outstanding team in the conference.

one outstanding team?

hmmm. let's see, three of the last five champions have not only been ACC schools, but three different ones (duke in '01, Maryland in '02, and UNC in '05), plus a fourth school (georgia tech in '04) played for the title. what the hell are you talking about?

[Spartan]

kentucky lol. held to just over 50 points at home..not that I didn't expect a loss, but not like that.

[DAntae]

poor tubby.

heels win.

even better...nc state beats bc at bc. awesome.

sooners your making me look bad. time for sampson to crack the whip.

[Spartan]

yeah, really. and this is probably snyder's last year at mizzou.

good games today. full slate of acc, big ten, big xii, sec, some big east, c-usa opens. tennessee at home against georgia, very meh. sec-worst auburn favored at home against alabama...worth a laugh. florida at miss. state, very early meaningful game. SC is 0-fer all time at oxford.

someone correct me...but wake (I know they lost to duke sunday night) is ranked...yet is the underdog at clemson? who lost to georgia...hmm? duke-maryland, indiana-michigan state, and notre dame-syracuse about wrap up the games I care about.

[DAntae]

no correction needed buddy...thats the wacky world of sports. duke/md game will have most of my attention tonight.

[kevin]

hoosier daddy, indiana.

[Spartan]

not that I didn't know that the RAC is the toughest place to play in the big east and beyond...but I did neglect the fact they are 11-3. since that happens to a lot of teams before conference play.

but what a start that would be for rutgers.

[huh?]

heh, yeah, best team we've beaten has been Temple, followed by a few meh teams (St. Mary's, the Hall) and then all the cupcakes. Definately won't be thinking about the tourney until we can beat someone real and any conference team on the road.
Shame they fell apart in ot. Although Inglis with the 3 at end of regulation, definately a holy shit moment.

[Rekart]

yeah, really. and this is probably snyder's last year at mizzou.

No question. First the program problems, and then the team goes downhill. He doesn't have any chances left. I can't see any situation where he'll be back next season unless they make the tournament, which is unlikely.

[DAntae]

nova lucky to pull that one out. even when they play a bad game they win.

maryland. ummm. well at least you can't blame one guy. that was just a thorough ass kicking. no reason to dwell on it. move on and play the next game. just too many sloppy passes...it wasn't even duke pressure. just bad pass after bad pass.

[box elder]

yep, that was pathetic. i thought our defense played fine, but our offense was horrendous, and i cannot stress that word enough. for the first time in 5 or 6 years we played like we were scared of duke.

by the way, what the fuck was magic johnson doing there kissing redick's ass? didn't he go to michigan state? what godly reason did he have for being there, and why did they keep showing his "approval" face after good duke plays? i hate ESPN.

[DAntae]

magic is a business man. word is he has something huge lined up with duke and also other places in the durham/chapel hill area...who knows. magic still loves the game. reddick hit some incredible shots and magic just recognized those. he seemed more impressed with williams than reddick.

[box elder]

williams = http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/arts/simpsons/pics/Ken_Griffy_jr.gif

[DAntae]

yeah but he still recorded a triple double...#15 for maryland was a bright spot though.

[Orange-Neck]

Tennessee now 11-1 after beating Georgia. :mexican:

The next 3 games are a bitch, it will be good if they can win one

[Spartan]

SC got spartaned.

nothing like losing to tennessee and ole miss to open up the conference schedule. suck on it, odom.

[DAntae]

live through your hoops team...its all you got.

[Spartan]

shut the hell up, tar heel

[DAntae]

yeah I will just stare at the latest title banner.

[Spartan]

I don't vicariously live through anything. wanting some team like arkansas, who I don't give two sheets in the wind about in basketball anymore, to beat kentucky would be living through somebody.

since when have I not talked about tennessee or sec hoops.

[DAntae]

spartan take it as the joke it was meant to be. egad. go rocky top.

[Spartan]

larry odom should be sodomized, like his name suggests, once and for all. that's my point.

[DAntae]

yeah I got no problem with that. in fact I endorse that suggestion.

[Spartan]

go to hell, LSU.

aside from that, going to the state game here at ole miss. vandy's at arkansas...nova-texas, ucla-washington seems to be the best of the rest.

maybe miami can upset unc. haven't seen any of GT this year. want to see how they do at raleigh. memphis gets its c-usa opener against southern methodist.

[DAntae]

heels blow it at home and then the skins cant cash in on turnovers. one of the worst sports days in my life.

[Orange-Neck]

Two more chances for Tennessee to win a game in the bitch of a 3 game streak. At least the Vols wrecked LSU's football season.

[Spartan]

winning at the pete is just damned near impossible, to begin with.

fuck calipari

[kevin]

i didn't watch today's double ot win in ohio state, but i'm sure it was awesome. why do people schedule msu basketball games right in the middle of the bears' first postseason game in four years? pricks. but considering how well the bears played, i probably should have watched this game.

[J.Re*]

winning at the pete is just damned near impossible, to begin with.

fuck calipariwoah woah. get your own arena nickname! :angry:

[Spartan]

take that up with LSU

...and pete maravich

[DAntae]

true story...pistol wasn't because of his gunslinger mentality...but because of his 17 inch penis.

[box elder]

i can't believe we're still ranked. i guess they figured the blowout loss to duke says more about them than us (although i disagree). we still got off to a slow start last night (9-3, i think); though that's obviously not as bad as the miami (13-0) or duke (9-0) starts, it's still a bad sign, especially at home. and our 3-point defense must have some serious issues. i find it hard to believe that teams just keep getting hot and it having nothing to do with us. but a win is a win, and it's nice to see mike jones have a good shooting night. we need a consistent outside threat and if he can heat up, we'd be a far better team for it. hell, even will "the thrill" bowers had some quality minutes in there. overall: too close for comfort after being up 17 in the second half, but we held on and that shows at least something.

[Rekart]

GREAT game by MU to beat Kansas. I'm beginning to have some hope in MU, maybe Snyder will be back. They've seemed good at points in other seasons lately as well, and have then just lost it, so I'll wait to get too much hope.

[DAntae]

that was a pretty exciting comeback by mizzou. kansas has fallen and fast. they look just dreadful on offense. no motion anywhere. guys just standing around. fans stormed the court...maybe a bit too much? guess it was all the hoopla with the comeback and all.

[Spartan]

storming the court is a terrible thing to begin with...but over kansas? when you're mizzou? c'mon...that's horrible.

[box elder]

yeah, big program schools should never storm the court. act like you expect to win.

now if a delaware state or somebody were to beat duke, by all means storm away.

[Spartan]

well sure.

but i'm still not a big fan of it. such a typical thing for horrible fans who know nothing.

[Rekart]

Mizzou has sucked for a few seasons, and when they were good, they disappointed the fans by not winning anything. There were no expectations this season, we've won 5 or 6 in a row or something like that, and we came back 9 points on Kansas, our biggest rival, in a minute and a half. They then missed two free throws, and we won in OT. Let the fans have their fun. There's nothing wrong with it.

[Spartan]

it's fucking mizzou.

it's the equivalent of I dunno...Florida tearing down the goalposts after they beat Florida state when they're like 6-5 and FSU is 7-4.

[Rekart]

If FSU had beaten them for a few seasons in a row and Florida had been going 2-9, they probably would.

[Spartan]

no they wouldn't.

and mizzou the past few years was not having the basketball equivalent of 2-9 seasons. more like 5-6.

[kevin]

two mediocre teams in a mediocre big 12... i say who cares, either way

[huh?]

didn't this whole kansas-missouri rivalry begin when they started killing each other during the days of bleeding kansas? if so, i'd imagine the rivalry has the heat to make it mean something.
oh and ru won a big east road game. w00t.

[Spartan]

with pitt coming to the rac tonight...duke/ncst on.

tennessee-memphis series renewed tonight, much to the displeasure of coach cal. hmmph. >:

some other big games tonight, clemson-miami, lsu-state, arkansas-alabama, vandy-usc. gt-wake...forgot that wisconsin-ohio state is on espn. will watch that one. and catch the usc-ucla score tomorrow when I wake up, fucking left coast.

[DAntae]

the wisconsin/osu game might be the best of the bunch...

[Spartan]

my fellow memphian dane bradshaw after the lsu game, on asked if he was rattled by the crowd at the pete:

"no...I try to not let that affect my play. but i will tell you that i'm more worried about the gangbangers in the stands at memphis on wednesday after we win"

[DAntae]

tell your coach to show some class. what the hell was that comment for. he made a sarcastic gesture to the fans...I thought it was amusing and showed character. pearle your ok with me.

[Spartan]

lord jesus...nd state, who joined D-I last year (yeah, two years removed from D2) wins at wisconsin. I would just post that, cause really...but other things to talk about.

pitt lose, very meh. duke loses, but #1 teams on the road (esp. undefeated ones), it happens. g'town is improving, I like their new coach considering they had their first losing season for the first time since 1976 last year.

florida will lose tonight too. they're only a top 15 team, only real wins were miami and miss. state. which isn't saying that much. rockytop.

uconn-louisville is where itll be at tonight, watching state-vanderbilt right now. and yeah, tubby and the 'cats pull out a last second home win against SC. kentucky lol.

[Spartan]

rocky top, fuck you billy donovan

[DAntae]

what a hell of a day saturday was.

vols looked like they could run with anyone. oddly enough so did georgetown. st johns however...what the hell pitt?

[Spartan]

did you not see the memphis game wednesday? that game typified tennessee under pearl, but about every game has seen a very up-tempo offense with intensity.

[J.Re*]

st johns however...what the hell pitt?we've lost to them at their place 6 years in a row. its just one of those "can't get over the hump" situations. they've got us figured out, we haven't got them figured out.

[DAntae]

yeah but pitt is such a better team that this season.

spartan didn't see the game wednesday and have only seen about a half of vols bball this year.

[box elder]

FUCK! (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=As8KPzqtpRRy4SktUGyYFrrevbYF?slug=ap-maryland-mccray&prov=ap&type=lgns)


looks like another NIT berth unless Mike Jones can start playing with some consistency.

[DAntae]

if they can break just over .500 in the acc they will make the field of 64 easily.

[box elder]

yeah, but McCray was our best player, imo. he was at the very least our most consistant scorer, and with a team full of hot-heads like garrison, it's tough to lose a guy like that, but we'll see what happens. wow. what a bust this recruiting class is turning out to be!

[DAntae]

to be fair they had huge expectations placed on them, following that other class you know. they never addressed the issue inside with a dominant post presence. that hurt them as much as anything over the last 3 seasons.

[Spartan]

tennessee-'state tonight. no matter how good state has been recently, and how down tennessee's been under buzz, vols still find a way to win v. rick stansbury. overrall, it's never been close. 70-35 sounds familar. and as down as state is (anyone see that vandy game sat...4 game losing streak overall), I wont ever count them out. just need a good solid win with no hangover like after the texas win.

florida at sc, georgia at lsu, ole miss at arkansas, otherwise a very meh sec wed. night.

nc state-seton hall a nice ooc matchup. another game at the rac, we'll see if providence can make it out. watching maryland-gt now. louisville and cincy renew c-usa hate in a brand new environment. depaul plays marquette in the other c-usa-big east game. depaul VERY down, marquette trying to fight for an ncca bid. saint johns goes from pitt to uconn. sorry bro.

and some late night mwc action.

[box elder]

very impressed with how we responded tonight (yeah, i said WE). i must say, i was expecting us to come out lackluster and making excuses for a loss before the game even started, but we did the opposite. i'm especially impressed with caner-medley; dude showed some serious heart tonight -- without losing his head.

you know, i hate to go off on a rant, but tonight was another example of fans going way below the belt and attacking DJ Strawberry (after the game was out of reach, no less) for shit his father did. i'm sick of opposing fans doing that to us over and over and over again and yet we get stuck with the label of being poor sports for saying "you suck." what a joke.

anyway, with duke and NC State falling to unranked teams out of conference, it's starting to look like the ACC may actually be in a "down year" (at least by ACC standards). i don't know, though... we may not have the most experience on the floor (and it's showing), but i still say watch for a few unexpected ACC teams to make some noise come march.

[Spartan]

wow...marshall beats wvu again, second year in a row. they are fucking 8-9. jesus gravy.

uf continues to get exposed, as i said so. tennessee won rather convincingly at state, a great road win after the florida win. ole miss lost at arkansas. :-\ that's two in a row they could have easily had, with lsu and florida now coming to oxford.

louisville pretty much handled cincy. michigan beat msu...tsk. seton hall won at raleigh rather handily as well. northwestern won AT illinois...happens once in a blue moon, and are 3-4 in conference. go cats.

[kevin]

fucking michigan. fuck.

[Orange-Neck]

It was nice to see UF get beat again. Fuck you Foley, you hypocrite douche fucker fining the Vols fans for running on the court. Aren't you the one who advocated your idiots fans to throw piss on people in the swamp?

Your overrated football and basketball teams will both have dissapointing seasons this year.

[Spartan]

foley is by and large the worst ad in the south. and everyone knows it. tennessee athl. dept. basically laughed the 5,000 out of its account. sec technically had to issue the fine, they didn't care.

[DAntae]

my heels have hit the wall...lack of depth is killing them.

[gravymaster]

Fuck it.....GO MOUNTAINEERS! Its easy to start really rooting for a team when they are having a great year ;)

[DAntae]

took you long enough.