The where do I start thread

[mr. broom]

More than a few times people have asked the NHC hivemind for advice on where to start listening to certain artists, usually ones with large to intimidating discographies. In the interest of consolidating that, here you go.

Someone tell me how to get into Massive Attack.

[gil]

start with mezzanine. the whole album is gold and will sell you.

then work backward.

[lolpenis_taco]

i want to get into radiohead.

no, seriously.

edit: actually, i've been wanting to get into indie rock in general, but christ, there's so much.

[nathaniel]

i put protection over mezzanine. but mezzanine has the coolest cover

getting into indie rock is pretty easy. go buy one of the 10 indierock magazines sold at your local barnes and noble. i reccomend paste

[My Little Needle]

what about magnetic fields?

[nathaniel]

69 is too many songs .. ''i'' isnt weird enough .. charm of the highway strip is too weird .. rest is too lo-fi

winner goes to

http://fusionanomaly.net/magneticfieldsholiday.jpg

id bump that DIY thread with a good magnetic fields best of, but it apparently disappeared

[AllSussedOut]

http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=28015&highlight=greatest+hits

[My Little Needle]

thanks gilmore comma aso

[AllSussedOut]

many artists need updated lists... eels, ben folds, tcs, spoon, beck...

GET TO WORK, NERDZ (or are you honing your harmoniage?)

[nathaniel]

bumpty. pronounced with an umpty

[Tibor]

i've only heard smatterings and highlights of mountain goats, so where do i start in that massive darnielle discography for a solid album?

[lolpenis_taco]

seconded. necro's constant pimpage has me curious.

[nathaniel]

if it has to be an album, tallahassee for hi-fi. coroner's gambit for lo-fi

but i usually just pass along my favorite live bootleg to first timers.. some of his set lists are basically greatest hits. he has a thousand albums, and theres always a really great song on each record (though sometimes thats it)

[Slack Motherfucker]

I'd actually recommend starting with 69 love songs especially part one and follow that by charm of the highway strip but that's just me.

Could someone recommend me a second Can album after Tago Mago?
As well a second stereolab album after Emperor Tomato Ketchup?
Also first album for Neu! and Faust (the krautrock one).
I still have to get Bakesale as was recommended to me by another member.
Also I need some Welsh bands for my Wales mix
So far I have:
Super Furry Animals
McLusky
Catatonia
Tom Jones
the pooh sticks
Young Marbel Giants

[SideshowTim]

i want to get into radiohead.

no, seriously.

edit: actually, i've been wanting to get into indie rock in general, but christ, there's so much.
the bends is probably the best way to start with radiohead, move on to ok computer and then probably hail to the thief. if you like more experimental stuff start with amnesiac then go to kid a.

[deshem]

the pixies please.

[mr. broom]

1. Doolittle
2. Surfer Rosa

Then listen around as you please.

[SideshowTim]

actually you're probably best to get 'wave of mutilation' first and then the ones broom listed. that's how i got into them and i've never looked back.

[matt]

gorky's zygotic mynci are a good welsh band

by "good" i mean they are one of a small number of welsh bands that aren't horrible

zopilote machine is my favourite mountain goats. it was rereleased not long ago

[Sampson]

I'd actually recommend starting with 69 love songs especially part one and follow that by charm of the highway strip but that's just me.

Could someone recommend me a second Can album after Tago Mago?
As well a second stereolab album after Emperor Tomato Ketchup?
Also first album for Neu! and Faust (the krautrock one).


can - ege bamyasi or maybe future days. either way, if you like tago mago you shouldn't have any trouble getting into those.
stereolab - mars audiac quintet
neu! - neu!
faust - IV

[irv]

surfer rosa is way easier to get into than doolittle, and both are easy to get into

[SideshowTim]

this is a song about a superhero named tony! it's called tony's theme!

[Kuje]

Sonic Youth

[SideshowTim]

Sonic Youth
dirty then onto daydream nation.

[Kuje]

Thanks Tim!

[gil]

I'd actually start with goo. it's by far their most accessible and has chuck d! winner no contest.

then dirty.

then murray st.

THEN daydream nation.

[lolpenis_taco]

i'd like to try pavement next. i've always just heard random snippets of songs, but enjoyed them all.

[AllSussedOut]

i'd go in this order:

crooked rain, crooked rain
brighten the corners
slanted and enchanted
wowee zowee
terror twilight

[Mason]

^ perfect list

[America: Fuck Yea!]

i want to get into radiohead.

no, seriously.

edit: actually, i've been wanting to get into indie rock in general, but christ, there's so much.


(as much as I love OK Computer)....

Go with the Bends

then OK Computer

then Amnesiac

then Kid A

by then you won't need guidance...

[Sam]

i'd go in this order:

crooked rain, crooked rain
brighten the corners
slanted and enchanted
wowee zowee
terror twilight

perfect list but be sure to listen to box elder as the perfect introduction
i'm sure it just slipped aso's mind as if i recall correctly it's one of his favourite songs ever

(Beep)

[Red Right]

i'd like to get into super furry animals. please help.

[deshem]

Flaming Lips, please.

[AllSussedOut]

perfect list but be sure to listen to box elder as the perfect introduction
i'm sure it just slipped aso's mind as if i recall correctly it's one of his favourite songs ever

(Beep)

fair point... have i mentioned that song here before? ;)


super furries:

rings around the world
guerilla
radiator
phantom power
fuzzy logic
mwng

or, you could get their very recently-released best-of, called songbook

people more learned than i... does this sound about right?

[Cyber-Dragon]

I got something even though this is probably the last place I should be asking this. Industrial metal?

I'm already listening to Rammstein, Orgy, & Megaherz but what else is out there that's any good?

[Kuje]

David Bowie?

[Sam]

j5

downloaded quality control like 8 months ago, what else is good slash better

(Beep)

[SideshowTim]

David Bowie?
hunky dory then ziggy stardust and then probably low.

where do i start with beulah?

[:bang:]

j5

downloaded quality control like 8 months ago, what else is good slash better

(Beep)
ep

[doyle]

The Coast is Never Clear is Beulah's best and is very easily accessible.

Heartstrings is also awesome. I don't care for Yoko though.

[Mason]

decemberists. seriously

[SideshowTim]

start with castaways and cutouts. i was hooked from the first time i heard leslie anne levine.

[lolpenis_taco]

j5

downloaded quality control like 8 months ago, what else is good slash better

(Beep)

power in numbers is equally amazing.

[Kamerica]

i want to get into radiohead.

no, seriously.

edit: actually, i've been wanting to get into indie rock in general, but christ, there's so much.
Start with The Bends.


(nevermind, I didn't know this thread was started awhile ago)

[nathaniel]

The Coast is Never Clear is Beulah's best and is very easily accessible.

Heartstrings is also awesome. I don't care for Yoko though.

hm, yoko is pretty excellent and easily the most comparable to COAST (which, yes, should be the starting point duh)

[My Little Needle]

the national. they're performing with clap your hands say yeah, and i've heard good things.

[doyle]

I just didn't think Yoko was upbeat or brassy enough.

On a similar note, which Mull Historical Society album is superior?

[Sampson]

the national. they're performing with clap your hands say yeah, and i've heard good things.

http://www.beggars.com/features/thenational/

[gil]

Flaming Lips, please.
soft bulletin
yoshimi
clouds taste metallic
zaireeka

and anything else beyond that really isn't that interesting.

[Toxic Monkey]

the national. they're performing with clap your hands say yeah, and i've heard good things.


alligator, their new album is pretty awesome. it was my starting point, top 10 or so of the year i think. as i understand sad songs for dirty lovers should be my next stab

[Kamerica]

I've heard good things about clap your hands. where should I start?

[Sampson]

^they only have one album. start there.

[Kamerica]

now I feel stupid. Can we pretend I said The Cure? if that's not even more laughable?

[gil]

start with the singles comp, then:
the head on the door
disintegration
kiss me kiss me kiss me
boys don't cry/three imaginary boys

[Red Right]

quasi, please.

[mohammed jafar]

featuring birds, then field studies

[AllSussedOut]

start with the singles comp, then:
the head on the door
disintegration
kiss me kiss me kiss me
boys don't cry/three imaginary boys

start with both singles compilations... early one first

[brancely]

belle & sebastian ?

sufjan stevens ?

[BlindPsychic]

b&s:
If you're feeling sinister
Tigermilk

Suf:
I'd say Illinois is a good place to start as any, its the first thing I heard by him and I'm hooked.

[p2501]

I got something even though this is probably the last place I should be asking this. Industrial metal?

I'm already listening to Rammstein, Orgy, & Megaherz but what else is out there that's any good?

Well, for a bit softer but still fun "metal" try Lacuna Coil. It's like an Italian Rammstein with a female lead. Start on Unleashed Memories (the one with the unreleased Halflife on it) then continue to Comalies and explore from there.

For a bit darker more ambient sound, mixed in with the same kind of industrial as Rammstein, try hunting down another german band named Wumpscut. Pure Genius. I can't really give you albums names, since I discovered this one song by song. I can give you some great songs to look out for: Mother, Soylent Green, Christfuck, Funeral Diner, and Angel, just to start with. Some might be too slow for your tastes, however.

Cradle of Filth. Straight metal. Still fun, despite being sellouts.

In Flames. I'm just getting into them myself, but I really enjoy them.

More german! Kovenant and Covenant. With a K: Straight Metal, a little Industrial hidden underneath. With a C: Techno Metal.

Um, just in case, if your not already listening to NIN, you should be. Start with Pretty Hate Machine, then jump to Downward Spiral. From there, go forward to the Fragile or backward to Broken. Avoid With Teeth.

Thats something for ya.

[Uruguay]

-Frank Zappa?
-The Clash?

[Slack Motherfucker]

soft bulletin
yoshimi
clouds taste metallic
transmissions from the satelitte heart
in a priest driven ambulance
zaireeka
Hit to the death in the future head

and there early stuff is pretty inaccessible so I'd recommend just getting a compilation (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE4781ED846A57220C3873640CCB04CF010E155F5871D2559 6A8EE7114082197BE055F9C79EEEA739D120CC9573DE106C9FC2F150E3DE 663D38C1E8AC603B344A06184538&sql=10:yvdfyl61xpeb) if you're really interested.

Fixed.

[Toli]

Pink Floyd.

[deshem]

soft bulletin
yoshimi
clouds taste metallic
zaireeka

and anything else beyond that really isn't that interesting.

nice, thanks - thanks to deathdrivesastick also.

[SideshowTim]

belle & sebastian ?

sufjan stevens ?
i'd actually say dear catastrophe waitress for belle and sebastian, very catchy album, you can't go wrong with it.

[Pep McSli]

the pixies please.

You've probably already gone and bought Doolittle and SR, but that's not what I recommend. I listened to Come on Pilgrim first, then Surfer Rosa. And then it was straight to Bossanova and Trompe le Monde, their best albums. The key tracks on Doolittle are, in my opinion, superior on the Death to the Pixies live disc, however that might be pretty hard to pick up. Call me an elitist prick, but I don't like Surfer or Doolittle. I lose respect to the Pixies fanbase when fans only listen to them.

Pink Floyd.

You don't need to fork out money on the Wall until you think you're a hardcore fan. Piper at the Gates of Dawn and then you can move onto either Syd's solo work or Wish You Were Here as you please.

[HomertheGreat]

sufjan stevens ?

come on feel the illinoise!
greetings from michigan
seven swans

don't even bother with "enjoy your rabbit" and "a sun came"

[mr. broom]

You've probably already gone and bought Doolittle and SR, but that's not what I recommend. I listened to Come on Pilgrim first, then Surfer Rosa. And then it was straight to Bossanova and Trompe le Monde, their best albums. The key tracks on Doolittle are, in my opinion, superior on the Death to the Pixies live disc, however that might be pretty hard to pick up. Call me an elitist prick, but I don't like Surfer or Doolittle. I lose respect to the Pixies fanbase when fans only listen to them.
Big ol' no.

[Jolly Bengali]

come on feel the illinoise!
greetings from michigan
seven swans

don't even bother with "enjoy your rabbit" and "a sun came"

What does Surfjan sound like? I'm intrigued by the Illinoise thing. Also, if you had to buy one, which is best?

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Pink Floyd (Post-Syd):

Dark Side of the Moon
Wish You Were Here
Animals
Meddle
Obscured by Clouds
Atom Heart Mother



B&S:

If You Are Feeling Sinister
Dear Catastrophy Waitress
Tigermilk

[nathaniel]

i had no idea sufjan pronounced his first name so pretentiously until i saw some MTV YOU HEART IT FIRST segment this weekend

[HomertheGreat]

What does Surfjan sound like? I'm intrigued by the Illinoise thing. Also, if you had to buy one, which is best?

The two state albums sound very americana, with some folk mixed in. (he's big with the banjo.

seven swans is very soft, basically a folk record, with more banjo goodness.

if you had to buy one, buy illinois. best of the year, imo.

[Mason]

built to spill
bjork

[Sampson]

built to spill - start with there's nothing wrong with love. after that either perfect from now on or keep it like a secret. can't go wrong with any of those three though

bjork - i don't know if any album is a better starting place than another, but homogenic, post, vespertine and medulla are all really good

[nathaniel]

post

[Central Scrutinizer]

-Frank Zappa?

Strictly Commercial (best of)
Sheik Yerbouti
Apostrophe
Joe's Garage
One Size Fits All
Overnite Sensation
Hot Rats

...listen to whatever Zappa you want after all of these.

[billi vanilli]

uhhhh damien rice. i just don't get why he's such a big deal.

any help?

[mr. broom]

He has one full-length album. Listen to it.

[brancely]

i got illinois per your suggestions. it rocks, so thanks!

[mr. broom]

Help me fill out my Morrissey better. I've got Bona Drag, Your Arsenal, and You Are the Quarry. What else do people consider essential? I don't feel like downloading everything else he's ever done just yet.

Good Smiths album suggestions would also not go amiss, as I'll otherwise be sampling them at random.

[mohammed jafar]

definitely viva hate next. and all the smiths albums are worth buying. the two middle ones first then the first and last, preferably

[mr. broom]

BUMP

Tom Waits.
Go.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

how about Broken Social Scene?

[My Little Needle]

you forgot it in people then s/t.

[doyle]

i'd say you forgot it in people is both more accessible and better than the s/t album. that's the order pretty much everyone went in, and broken social scene are pretty well liked

[mohammed jafar]

for tom waits go for swordfishtrombones or rain dogs.

[Son of Bomber]

Deerhoof. Should I get Apple O' or The Runners Four?

[SideshowTim]

i'd say the runners four is a little more accessible than apple o'.

[Curtis]

Pearl Jam

I have there song Jeremy but what are some of the other hits they have that I might like?

[Talking Pie]

Pearl Jam

I have there song Jeremy but what are some of the other hits they have that I might like?

Start with their greatest hits 2 CD set (Rearviewmirror: one disc of rockers,one disc of ballads). I've got all their 5 90's albums.

[Jimmy]

Deerhoof. Should I get Apple O' or The Runners Four?

probably Runners Four, although any Deerhoof is quite hard to get into, but definatly worth it.

[Wasteland]

Strictly Commercial (best of)
Sheik Yerbouti
Apostrophe
Joe's Garage
One Size Fits All
Overnite Sensation
Hot Rats

...listen to whatever Zappa you want after all of these.


Don't forget Freak Out! and Bongo Fury. Those two are a must for any future Zappa fan.

[Sampson]

Deerhoof. Should I get Apple O' or The Runners Four?
apple o' and the green cosmos ep are both more accessible and better than the runners four

[dyln]

guided by voices.

should i begin with "bee thousand", since that gets so much praise?

[Slack Motherfucker]

Start with either Bee Thousand or Alien Lanes. Both are great, Alien Lanes being my personal favourite. They do both contain some mediocre songs though.

[Red Right]

Alien Lanes is a better place to start, though the opening drums in "Hardcore UFOs" (from Bee Thousand) are enough to have you love gbv.

[dyln]

bump

xiu xiu, please.

oh, and didn't thank deathdriveastick/red right for the gbv help. thanks guys.

[nathaniel]

in order of goodness

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00019JQ5A.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg

i luv the valley, oh!
clowne towne
crank heart
little panda mcelroy

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000089CRU.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg

sad pony guerilla girl
apistat commander
fast car

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00005YEDA.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg

i broke up
hives hives
suha

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0009VI5PW.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg

muppet face
ale
bog people

--

fabulous muscles is the best overall but my favorite songs come from a promise. i havent listened to air force too much but its probably my least favorite. if you dig on the quieter stuff, like i do, investigate the EPs (especially fag patrol)

[Jolly Bengali]

But probably new shorts.

And I think ASO's way for Pavement is the proper way to do it, but starting with S&E and going through chronologically isn't a bad way, either, except put Wowee Zowee last. I've had good experiences with that.

[Jeff]

i want to get into arcade fire. i've listened to a few of their songs and i just don't feel anything which may be because of song choice. i love indie rock in general but i couldn't understand what all the hype was about when i first listened to them.

"beautiful" isn't how i'd explain the songs i heard.

[box elder]

well, Arcade Fire have only 1 LP and 1 EP, and i don't think listening to either one first will make a difference in how you take to the band. i actually saw them open up for the unicorns in early 2004 and was blown away by their live show having never heard of them before that. it wasn't until a few months later that i even found the album.

and on the Pavement front, i think chronological is probably the way to go, so long as the person is willing to give Wowee Zowee a few hard listens before discarding it as an album with too much filler (which it's not).

[nathaniel]

not understanding why the arcade fire are so supremely hyped is not unusual. theyre not that great of a band

listen to destroyer or something instead :headbang

[Kamerica]

phish and liars plx

[My Little Needle]

I agree with pretty much all of gilmore's post, but check out life and live if you like acoustic stuff.

destroyer, please. I have your blues but I haven't listened to it yet.

[box elder]

not understanding why the arcade fire are so supremely hyped is not unusual. theyre not that great of a band

listen to destroyer or something instead :headbang


but just because they're over rated doesn't mean they're worthless. it would be near impossible not to be over rated at their level of hype, but they're still a good band.

[nathaniel]

i didnt say arcade fire was worthless. just makng the observation that hearing arcade fire after hearing all the hype will be obviously disappointing. (and if its not, you need to listen to more music)

on destroyer:

logic would suggest someone definitely do NOT start with "your blues," as it sounds nothing like the other albums (it has no real instruments.. i believe it was done entirely with synths, and it shows). weird record

but its also the first destroyer record i ever heard and now he's pretty much my favorite musician. the lyrics are definitely as awesome and clever as any of the other records, and his voice is in top form

you should definitely get this years RUBIES. i mean thats just a given. perfect 10 album

[box elder]

well, like i said, i got into them before i'd ever even heard the name, much less been exposed to the hype, so that might have helped me put it in perspective.

[dyln]

well, Arcade Fire have only 1 LP and 1 EP, and i don't think listening to either one first will make a difference in how you take to the band. i think listening to funeral first is the best idea, and while it in itself isn't too fabulous or anything, their selftitled ep is incredibly boring with one good song and maybe another that's only ok at best.

[Jim Jones]

I wish to get into !!!. Where do I start?

[Jakebert]

What about Godspeed! You Black Emporer? I've been meaning to check them out for a while.

[My Little Needle]

for gybe, lift yr skinny fists is the best but I'd probably start with f#a#∞ first (I upped it in the music sharing thread), then skinny fists then slow riot for new kanada. although it doesn't really matter. note: yanqui u.x.o. isn't really worth bothering with, move on to a silver mt. zion after you've finished those.

for !!!, I don't care what pitchfork says, I like their self titled more than louden up now.

[Tetsujin]

Genesis. I fell in love with 'mama'.

[billi vanilli]

broken social scene?

[The mayor of Albuquerque]

Genesis. I fell in love with 'mama'.
Abacab or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
They kind of stopped being a dark, brooding band about 1988, so get older stuff. Once they went pop, they sucked.

[brancely]

broken social scene?you forgot it in people = the best
broken social scene = next best

les savy fav?

[MacGyver 666]

Genesis. I fell in love with 'mama'.

I would have to say “Duke” would be the safest place to start with “Phil Collins Era” Genesis.

Another option would be Genesis’s 3 disc “Platinum Collection”, which has tracks from almost every album. (including the “Gabriel Era”) This would be the best way to find out what albums fits your particular tastes. (& on the plus side a lot of the tracks have been remastered)

[:bang:]

les savy fav?rome, go forth

[My Little Needle]

liars?

[Tetsujin]

thanks a bunch guys.

[matt]

liars?

"drum's not dead" is kinda the best liars record by a wide margin

then i like "they were wrong, so we drowned" the next much

"they threw us all in a trench and stuck a monument on top" is good but i amn't that fond of it

reverse chronology!

[nathaniel]

i agree with matt on drums not dead, but their first record is wayyyy easier to get into than the other two. start there.

[Kuje]

Black Crowes plz

[nathaniel]

four tet anyone?

[America: Fuck Yea!]

four tet anyone?


Start with "Rounds"... not only is it the best, I think it far surpasses the other albums...

I couldn't get Rounds out of my player for 4 months.

[mohammed jafar]

yeah rounds is easily the best

[nathaniel]

YSI?

im helpless, i know

[CMQ]

Can someone help me get into Explosions in the Sky?

[mohammed jafar]

yeah, your local marijuana dealer

[Red Right]

Start with The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place.

...or watch Friday Night Lights. =x

[Jim Jones]

Xiu Xiu. Where do I start.

[nathaniel]

well i guess fabulous muscles is their best album so start there

it has their most pop-oriented songs, as well as a couple divisive noise turds youd probably eat up. "a promise" is just as good though

[Jim Jones]

well i guess fabulous muscles is their best album so start there

it has their most pop-oriented songs, as well as a couple divisive noise turds youd probably eat up. "a promise" is just as good though

Awesome, noise, maaaan, getting it from OiNK now.

[buh]

brain the vampire is the ultimate song for you

[kevin]

bump

the clash and the cure

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Clash:

London Calling

(I'll even up it for you if you want in the sharing thread).

Then probably the self-titled and Combat Rock

Don't know enough about the Cure.

[kevin]

that'd be awesome, thanks

[nathaniel]

i think its pretty unanimous that disentigration is the best cure record

[Red Right]

Make sure when download The Clash's self-titled album you get the U.K version and then get the song "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" - which is only on the U.S version.

[dyln]

i would agree with you there. don't get me wrong, disintegration is a great record, but is really too long and boring at first. i suggest that getting a "best of" compiliation of cure singles is probably the best way to get into them. i'd go with galore, which features radio versions of the tracks, each cut down to the average 3-5 minute mark. and also, the singles are the most accessible tracks. after that, i think kiss me, kiss me, kiss me is a better purchase than disintegration, because it's a more fun record. but if you're into slowly developing epics than go with what nate suggested.

wow, i ramble

[nathaniel]

yeah its true. disintigration isnt a good overall look at cure's sound, but its one of my favorite albums ever. and im not even a big cure fan

also, whiteman in hammersmith palais is my fav clash song

[kelly]

Understood that this request was made 3 months ago and all but

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m1p321

http://www.bangitout.com/images/fourtet.jpg

Here it is, just in case.

[nathaniel]

yeah no one ever uploaded it

many thanks

[America: Fuck Yea!]

yeah no one ever uploaded it

many thanks


one of my favorite albums... enjoy it.

I didn't realize no one upped it, or I would have.

[Kuje]

While we're on the subject then; Black Crowes?

[nathaniel]

we were most definitely not on that subject

[robb]

While we're on the subject then; Black Crowes?

seconded.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

i will up the crows greatest hits

[Kuje]

Thanks man :thumbsup it's in the music sharing thread robb.

[Tetsujin]

not so much a 'where do i start' request but more of a 'more of the same' request.

from the cure: The Walk. Ive heard a few of their other songs and none of them sound similar to this one. have they made songs similar to this?

[Texas McTosh]

about the Walk - i'm sure if you listen to a sonic the hedgehog soundtrack you'd get the goods.

no seriously, I cannot help there, I'd like to know too. I haven't listened to the Cure for years but disintegration was a top album. I guess just check out their albums from around that era - early mid 80's, and you'll must likely find something similar.

[caribou]

Fugazi.

Anything worth nabbing besides 13 Songs and Repeater?

[Rider On The Storm]

The Killers.

[pat]

Fugazi.

Anything worth nabbing besides 13 Songs and Repeater?
"the argument" might actually be my favorite fugazi album. "in on the kill taker" is worth checking out too.

[brancely]

The Killers.don't

[Adamm R)))]

Fugazi.

Anything worth nabbing besides 13 Songs and Repeater?

Someone recommended Fugazi to me. Can someone up Repeater?

[Brent]

bee thousand by guided by voices is definitely one of my favorite albums but other than having alien lanes i don't know where else to begin. way too prolific and there's pollard stuff i want too. suggestions please

[Otis P Jivefunk]

don't

Haha, yeah don't even go there...

[Rider On The Storm]

Ok then... Coldplay?

[mohammed jafar]

"the argument" might actually be my favorite fugazi album. "in on the kill taker" is worth checking out too.

the argument is essential, yeah. my favorite fugazi record is steady diet of nothing though...easily their most accomplished and fully formed album to me. in on the kill taker is very interesting and unique (amg's description of it as "like scrubbing your face with steel wool" is dead-on) but i dont listen to it very often. red medicine is awesome. end hits is best avoided. so basically get everything apart from end hits

[pat]

ironically, steady diet of nothing is the fugazi album that, for some reason, i haven't listened to before. i'll take your word for it that it's great.

[box elder]

"in on the kill taker" is my favorite fugazi album, but you should definitely just check out all their shit. great band.

on a related note, new evens album just came out. haven;t listened to it yet but i heard most of the songs at fort reno and it sounded pretty good. a little heavy-handed lyrically for my taste, but ian gets a pass.

[Texas McTosh]

Ok then... Coldplay?

don't part II.

what kind of thing are you after? new bands that sound like U2? you may as well just stick with the original, or their roots and contemporaries.

[buh]

the way poiman is going, i dont think any good music is what he's looking for

someone suggest anal cunt to him or something

[deshem]

killers and coldplay both make decent tunes - they are just overhyped. nothing bad about liking them at all.

[anthony]

spoon for anyone who is interested (aso mentioned on page one)

i'm torn between "kill the moonlight" and "girls can tell" as a first so either/or unless someone can clearly put one above the other. then i'd get the newest, "gimme fiction" and after that "series of sneaks", "telephono" and the various EP's should be very easy to get into once you've got the first three.

[pat]

killers and coldplay both make decent tunes - they are just overhyped. nothing bad about liking them at all.
but the point of this thread is to suggest how to get into bands that have put out a lot of music. the killers and coldplay, well, haven't. plus all their stuff sounds the same so it really doesn't matter what you get first from either.

[Rekart]

I think this is the comment he's talking about, it's not that he doesn't understand the point of the thread:

the way poiman is going, i dont think any good music is what he's looking for

[pat]

i know what he said. i'm just saying it's pointless to ask about where to start with the killers and coldplay when there really isn't any difference in any of their albums and theoretically you can start anywhere you choose.

[Rekart]

We all know at least a third of the music people here are complete bitches and need to get the fuck over themselves. So enough with the elitist bullshit. Others have asked about bands that only have two or three releases, and people told them which was best or told them they were all basically the same. I'm not even a big Coldplay fan, or a Killers fan at all, but deshem is right. Get off people because of the music they listen to. If it's a joke, it's old, and if it's not, that's fucking sad. That's not to say there can't be discussion and debate, but there's a difference between "you suck and your music sucks" and an intelligible point.

Not directed at pat, or anyone specifically. And I'm aware I'm fighting a losing war here, but that doesn't make it any less right.

[nathaniel]

http://www.spin.com/features/magazine/images/2005/11/051118_bflowers.jpg

CAN WE CLIMB THIS MOUNTAIN?
I DONT KNOW

HIGHER THAN EVER BEFORE,
I KNOW WE CAN MAKE IT IF WE TAKE IT SLOW

LETS TAKE IT EASY

EASY NOW

WATCH
IT
GO

[mohammed jafar]

http://www.hotandcoldplay.com/cp-photo-01.jpg

fratgeese.jpg

[Kamerica]

http://www.freewebs.com/chrismartini/coldplay_chris_martin.jpg
named sexiest vegetarian in the world

[Rekart]

At least nate made some sort of reference to, you know, music. I don't think anyone asked how good looking or how much of a dumbfuck Chris Martin is, but his looking dumb in pictures doesn't affect the music.

How you liking U2, Kamerica? Working out good for you? I think it's a well-documented fact that U2 fans can't bitch out anyone else's music.

[Texas McTosh]

but coldplay really are below U2, and I think it's a well documented fact that if you deny that, you are an idiot.

[nathaniel]

Rekart
is a portion for a fox.

[Sloppy Jimbo IV]

more like retard

http://pascal.mathelon.free.fr/photos/bebe.jpg

[Rekart]

Wow, Rilo Kiley hate. Really pushing hard now, ehh? How can I ever repay you for being so much > than me? I mean, that effortless wit and... and, well, what can I say, completely perfect musical taste. We all strive for perfection, but we all must stop for a while to bow before our master, nate.

You can be a jackass as long as you want, and you will continue to be a jackass for quite some time, I have no doubt. Doesn't make your musical taste or anything else about you better than anyone else though, but you can take pride in being a dumbfuck if that's the best you've got going for you. You're no better than Curtis was in the end, you're just both fucktards in different ways.

edit: I'm too tired to go after jimbo. And the rerun of last week's House is coming on.

[Red Right]

Dude, he's not dissing Rilo. He's just making fun of how silly your custom title is.

[Red Right]

So yeah, that's overreacting if I ever saw it.

[Rekart]

Not exactly my point. But, I think you'd all be a little testy if your mom kept telling you - and showing you (not on, thankfully) - the new tiny thong underwear she bought. And then not understanding why you're using a "tone" when you answer.

But that doesn't invalidate what my original point was. The way to make people listen to music that you think is good is not to just bitch at them and tell them how much they suck. Suggest other music if you think Coldplay is a waste of time. Some members here need to get over how fucking great they are and how much better everything they like is, and instead of trying to get other members to understand why they're so great, get them to understand why the music is so great.

[mohammed jafar]

fratwhine.jpg

[Sloppy Jimbo IV]

fratwhine are up and down, imo

their best album is "You can be a jackass as long as you want, and you will continue to be a jackass for quite some time"

but thats not to say that

"The way to make people listen to music that you think is good is not to just bitch at them and tell them how much they suck" isnt without its merits. although the title track is more hypcritical than correct, being quite bitchy in of itself

[Kamerica]

At least nate made some sort of reference to, you know, music. I don't think anyone asked how good looking or how much of a dumbfuck Chris Martin is, but his looking dumb in pictures doesn't affect the music.

How you liking U2, Kamerica? Working out good for you? I think it's a well-documented fact that U2 fans can't bitch out anyone else's music.
woah, chill dude. i really wasnt pointing out anything about the music, more that i think it's absurd that chris martin was named sexiest anything.

and since there's not a gazillion coldplay topis floating around, this seems to be the opportune place to post that shit. it wasnt meant to persuade will any way about the music.

and what, do you want me to hate myself for liking u2 or never say a band sucks? sorry if i dont pretend to like any band that's hip or coldplay.

oh wait sorry i just realized nobody asked me. my mistake. :(

[Rekart]

Meh, I don't dislike U2. 676 on my Last.FM, although only 44 in the past year. Coldplay is an easy target, but the fact is, there is far worse music. At least if you don't like Coldplay, they're easy to ignore completely.

Back on subject though, how about TMBG? My friend has been trying to get me to listen to them for at least two years, I just have never gotten around to it.

[buh]

but rekart, coldplay and the killers do suck

dont let my original post fool you

[Spartan]

incredible last page.

[nathaniel]

hahahahahah holy shit

sorry dns you have been replaced

[:bang:]

bee thousand by guided by voices is definitely one of my favorite albums but other than having alien lanes i don't know where else to begin. way too prolific and there's pollard stuff i want too. suggestions please
propeller
under the bushes, under the stars

[America: Fuck Yea!]

sufjan?

[Rider On The Storm]

The Beatles? Never actually heard any of their stuff.. :(

[America: Fuck Yea!]

The Beatles? Never actually heard any of their stuff.. :(

Revolver (1966)
Rubber Soul (1966)
Sgt. Pepper (1967)
The White Album (1968)
Abbey Road (1969)
Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
Let It Be (1970)

[Eddie]

sufjan?
illinois

then michigan

[Rider On The Storm]

Revolver (1966)
Rubber Soul (1966)
Sgt. Pepper (1967)
The White Album (1968)
Abbey Road (1969)
Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
Let It Be (1970)
Thanks. My dad just got me Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. I asked him for some Beatles stuff yesterday. It's pretty awesome.

[buh]

i can probably upload all those albums if you really want

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Thanks. My dad just got me Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. I asked him for some Beatles stuff yesterday. It's pretty awesome.


then you'll do fine.

Magical Mystery Tour was recorded turing the Sgt. pepper sessions.. they are pretty much the left overs, but in most cases, they are better then anything off of Sgt. Pepper.

[Rider On The Storm]

Got it. Thanks.

Led Zeppelin?

[kevin]

i'd say start with i and work your way up to iv. can't really go wrong with any of their stuff.

[America: Fuck Yea!]

2
4
Houses of the Holy
3
1
Physical Graffiti
Presence

[brody]

Where do I start with The Doors?

[kevin]

the doors
la woman
morrison hotel
strange days
soft parade
waiting for the sun

i can upload some them if you want

[America: Fuck Yea!]

la woman
the doors
strange days
morrison hotel
waiting for the sun
soft parade

[brody]

Thanks for the recommendations :)

[Shak]

kraftwerk, anyone?

[Rider On The Storm]

The Kinks?

[buh]

The Kinks?
the kinks are the village green preservation society
something else by the kinks

[camelenchilada]

i can upload "the kinks are the village green preservation society" for you, will

[Rider On The Storm]

Ok, thanks. :)

[Kamerica]

....

neil young? :(

[buh]

after the gold rush
on the beach

[America: Fuck Yea!]

The Kinks?

Village Green
Something Else
Arthur
Face to Face
Kontroversy

[anthony]

....

neil young? :(

after the gold rush
everybody knows this is nowhere
harvest moon

[America: Fuck Yea!]

....

neil young? :(

after the goldrush
harvest
on the beach
everybody knows this is nowhere
ragged glory
rust never sleeps
tonight's the night
greendale
zuma
comes a time
harvest moon

[anthony]

touche

[Tetsujin]

stone roses anyone?

[pat]

they only had two albums, and the first one is the only essential one anyway. "second coming" is still pretty good, but doesn't come anywhere close to their debut.

[gheorghe]

sonic youth, tv on the radio, apples in stereo.
please.

[Son of Bomber]

yoof:

Sister
Daydream Nation
Goo

Avoid: nyc ghosts & flowers

[My Little Needle]

I'd say get daydream nation first. I hated sonic youth until I heard that album.

for tv on the radio, probably cookie mountain then young liars then desperate youth

[anthony]

sonic nurse is also very good, grown on me hugely.

[gheorghe]

just downloaded a bright eyes discography torrent. WHERE DO I START

[Jimmy]

'I'm wide awake, its morning' is the best album, so there I guess.

[gheorghe]

yeah just listened to a couple of songs, they're not my type of music. i think they're shit.

[My Little Needle]

incorrect, lifted is the best and then fevers and mirrors.

[nathaniel]

heres a little tip sheet i wrote awhile back on bright eyes. i like lifted and letting off the happiness the most

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drg600/g629/g62924dwe8t.jpg
at the bottom of everything
lua
road to joy


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drg600/g631/g63125hxdrb.jpg
take it easy (love nothing)


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/dre700/e775/e77562oqzc4.jpg
no lies, just love


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drg200/g254/g25475unkw1.jpg
i'll be your friend


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drf600/f692/f69218mmj0h.jpg
a cirlce allows progress (a line does not)
neely o'hara


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drf200/f239/f239918fm3a.jpg
loose leaves


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/dre700/e772/e77258eqn7y.jpg
if winter ends
the city has sex
pull my hair
june on the west coast


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drf600/f642/f64259h2qe1.jpg
the calendar hung itself


http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov75/drf400/f428/f42837r9k0d.jpg
false advertising
lover i don't have to love
bowl of oranges
nothing gets crossed out
make war
waste of paint
let's not shit ourselves (to love and be loved)

[Tetsujin]

they only had two albums, and the first one is the only essential one anyway. "second coming" is still pretty good, but doesn't come anywhere close to their debut.


thanks. ill check them both out

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Bjork?

is Debut the best place to begin?

[mr. broom]

Yeah, chronological order isn't a bad way to go. Debut's a great album.

[jase]

I'm looking to get into The Doors. I only have 'Touch Me' and I really like it and I wanna hear more of their stuff. Where should I start?

[anthony]

self titled is a pretty good place to start, from there, i'd say l.a. woman, morrision hotel and the soft parade is any order you like.

[Tetsujin]

grace jones?

[buh]

im pretty sure slave to the rhythm is the only necessary grace jones album

[Tetsujin]

hmmm well im hooked on 'ive seen that face before' so is it similar in sound to that?

[buh]

sorry, but honestly i have only heard slave to the rhythm and bulletproof heat. bulletproof heat was shitty. slave to the rhythm was pretty good

check out slave to the rhythm

but if you like ive seen that face before, probably check out the album nightclubbing, because that song is on the album

[Tetsujin]

will do, thanks :)

[conor.]

where do i start with Pink Floyd?

[Rider On The Storm]

Rush?

[kevin]

where do i start with Pink Floyd?

baffles me that you've never listened to them but:

dark side of the moon
the wall
wish you were here
animals

is a good start

[doyle]

(meddle)

[kevin]

apples in stereo?

[Gabbo]

is minus the bear any good?

if so, where should i start?

[billi vanilli]

call me crazy, but i'd start with the apples in stereo's latest, 'new magnetic wonder.' then 'fun trick noisemaker,' 'her wallpaper reverie,' and then i guess 'velocity of sound.'

i have yet to hear 'soul tone evolution' :(

[mr. broom]

is minus the bear any good?

if so, where should i start?
Highly Refined Pirates is pretty good.

[nathaniel]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004T8X6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

dunno why no one ever mentions this apples release. great record

[That Jerk]

Sigur Ros, anyone?

[Timothy]

Built to Spill? been meaning to get into them for a while.....

[buh]

theres nothing wrong with love
perfect from now on
keep it like a secret

are the best to start with for built to spill

[Timothy]

thanks man :)

heard lots of good things about them

[America: Fuck Yea!]

Where do I start with Can?

[Red Right]

Future Days.

[nathaniel]

dude, tago mago

but ege bamyasi and future days are up there