Season 17 Information

[Binky]

Season 17 Information Thread
(2005-2006)

Episodes
Click on each episode's name for a description and its Rate/Review thread. Nielsen overnight national ratings are displayed in parentheses in household rating/share format.

9/11: GABF18 - Bonfire of the Manatees (N: 6.7/11) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=50863) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=3.0)
9/18: GABF16 - The Girl Who Slept Too Little (N: 5.4/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=51032)
9/25: GABF19 - Milhouse of Sand and Fog (N: 5.8/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=51236)
11/6: GABF17 - Treehouse of Horror XVI (N: 6.5/10) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=52255) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=4.0)
11/13: GABF20 - Marge's Son Poisoning (N: 6.6/10) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=52412) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=5.0)
11/20: GABF21 - See Homer Run (N: 6.0/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=52561)
11/27: GABF22 - The Last of the Red Hat Mamas (N: 9.6/14) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=52706) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=6.0)
12/11: HABF02 - The Italian Bob (N: 5.8/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=52991)
12/18: HABF01 - Simpsons Christmas Stories (N: 5.9/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=53134) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=7.0)
1/8: HABF03 - Homer's Paternity Coot (N: 5.9/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=53564)
1/29: HABF04 - We're on the Road to D'ohwhere (N: 5.3/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=54009)
2/26: HABF05 - My Fair Laddy (N: 5.7/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=54558) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=9.0)
3/12: HABF06 - The Seemingly Never-Ending Story (N: 5.8/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=54797) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=81.0)
3/19: HABF07 - Bart Has Two Mommies (N: 5.2/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=54939) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=85.0)
3/26: HABF08 - Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife (N: 5.7/9) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55099) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=82.0)
4/2: HABF09 - Million Dollar Abie (N: 4.7/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55208)
4/9: HABF10 - Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore (N: 4.8/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55338)
4/23: HABF11 - The Wettest Stories Ever Told (N: 4.4/7) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55559)
4/30: HABF12 - Girls Just Want to Have Sums (N: 5.1/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55664) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=94.0)
5/7: HABF13 - Regarding Margie (N: 5.1/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55790)
5/14: HABF14 - The Monkey Suit (N: 4.8/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=55920) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=108.0)
5/21: HABF16 - Marge and Homer Turn a Couple Play (N: 5.0/8) (http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=56009) PROMO ART (http://www.springfieldpost.com/index.php?topic=109.0)

Rankings
All scores are on a scale of 1 to 5.

Girls Just Want to Have Sums (HABF12) ..... 4.31
The Seemingly Never-Ending Story (HABF06) ..... 4.22
The Girl Who Slept Too Little (GABF16) ..... 3.98
Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore (HABF10) ..... 3.99
The Monkey Suit (HABF14) ..... 3.79
The Italian Bob (HABF02) ..... 3.76
We're on the Road to D'ohwhere (HABF04) ..... 3.70
Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife (HABF08) ..... 3.69
Bart Has Two Mommies (HABF07) ..... 3.69
Milhouse of Sand and Fog (GABF19) ..... 3.68
Marge's Son Poisoning (GABF20) ..... 3.67
Simpsons Christmas Stories (HABF01) ..... 3.65
Homer's Paternity Coot (HABF03) ..... 3.63
My Fair Laddy (HABF05) ..... 3.61
The Last of the Red Hat Mamas (GABF22) ..... 3.57
Treehouse of Horror XVI (GABF17) ..... 3.51
See Homer Run (GABF21) ..... 3.42
Regarding Margie (HABF13) ..... 3.36
Million Dollar Abie (HABF09) ..... 3.24
The Wettest Stories Ever Told (HABF11) ..... 3.15
Marge and Homer Turn a Couple Play (HABF16) ..... 2.93
Bonfire of the Manatees (GABF18) ..... 2.62

Season Average ..... 3.63/5

[vox]

Looks pretty good, although we'll probably still use the S16 thread for final rankings, like last year.

[Binky]

Yeah, that's true. Perhaps that thread can be renamed to something like "Season 16 in Retrospect" once the season ends?

[vox]

Well, might as well start speculating:

GABF16 - The Girl Who Slept Too Little

Eh, not really looking forward to this one. There'll probably be some nice direction in the graveyard scenes, and Lisa's bad dreams should be good, but it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that deserves its own entire episode. Prove me wrong...John Frink. :'(

GABF17 - Treehouse of Horror XVI

More info needed, but I'm starting to miss the days of having different writers for each segment.

GABF18 - The Bonfire of the Manatees

Need infooooo....

GABF19 - Milhouse of Sand and Fog

Need info, but if its plot is anything like the movie that the title parodies, it should be interesting.

GABF20 - Marge's Son Poisoning

Definately my most anticipated, as the Bart/Marge dynamic has so much untapped potential. And the angle with the bullies should provide a nice conflict.

GABF21 - See Homer Run
Mayor Quimby faces a recall election, leaving Homer with the opportunity to run.

It could go either way. If it's a more general satire of politics, instead of a specific parody of the California recall, then it has potential, as long as it doesn't become a wacky Homer adventure/scheme.

GABF22 - Last of the Red Hot Mamas

Sounds hot.

GABF23 - Yellow Crush

OH, I stand corrected! This is by far my most anticipated episode. Marge as a surfer with a technologically advanced board? Limitless possibilities. I just hope Sean Penn plays her laid back rival well.

HABF?? - My Fair Laddy

This sounds like it could be a nice story, perhaps doing for Willie what MBB did for Moe, making him a truly empathetic character.

HABF04 - The Sound of Syzlak

Lisa and Moe is an interesting pairing, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how she ends up getting him to let out his creative side.

HABF?? - The Italian Bob

Eh, not really enough plot to judge, but it sounds a bit like Sideshow Bob Roberts now.

HABF02 - Homer Is Where the Heart Attack Is

I'm interested to see how they manage to distinguish this from "Bypass" and "Heartbroke".

HABF10 - Homer Misnomered

This sounds really good, and it'll be nice to see how Homer reacts to this. Possibly there'll be some expansion on the Homer/Grandpa relationship.




All in all, I'm looking forward to it.

[Channel Surfer]

I know there was the other season 17 information thread, but this one is IMO better formatted, has more information, disclaimers, ect. Plus with only one week left, it seems pointless to close it, reopen it, and then sticky when it can just linger here for a week (plus it removes the temptation by someone else to start another season 17 thread). So unless there's any objections by the mods/admins, I vote this thread stays open, at least just for speculation right now.

[Andy]

Where did the new episode titles come from?

Beeeeeeeesides Yellow Crush.

edit: what I assumed were the 'joke' ones are gone now. nevermind.

[H Thompson]

Some of it is fairly accurate, some of if its wild speculation based on a bit of infomation and some of it is Vox being such a dity filthy liar it would make Jimbo disgusted.

[deshem]

The Italian Bob sounds awful. New episode in the Sideshow Bob legacy + vacation episode = terrible. Really not the way I would've liked for them to of gone with the Bob saga.

[Galalimit]

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[Homer Jay]

Italian Bob looks like it could go either way, hopefully there will be a return to Bob trying to kill Bart, that hasn't been the focal point of one of these plots in a long time

[H Thompson]

Well it made Brother From Another Series very good, I thought it was a good twist and would have been a good end to Sideshow Bob series but they brought him back a couple of mediocore episodes and completley disregarded that episode.

[Nameless]

[SPECULATION UPDATED 26-09-05]

The Girl Who Slept Too Little
Not particularly looking forward to. Could go somewhere, though. (edit: this turned out to be great!)

Treehouse of Horror XVI
Wilmore's one other THOH segment (Send in the Clones) was solid, so I'm expecting something good here. (edit: not too sure about the guest stars, though)

Bonfire Of The Manatees
As above, we need info first. Sounds interesting, though. (edit: it was ok, i guess)

Milhouse Of Sand And Fog
Again, we need more info, but as Vox said, if it's a parody of the movie the title was based on, it'll be interesting. (edit: yeah, this was good too.)

Marge's Son Poisoning
Eagerly awaiting this one. Everything about it sounds good.

See Homer Run
Sounds like possibly the best of the GABF production line.

Last Of The Red Hot Mamas
Could be good, depending on the plot, but judging from the writer, it'll at least be funny.

My Fair Laddy
Another one with potential, and sounds the best of the HABFs with confirmed titles so far (although, we've only got two)

The Italian Bob
First had high hopes for it when we just had its description, but the John Frink writing credit (assuming it is written by him) kills my hopes a little. Let's hope it's not another Bart-Mangled Banner. (edit: girl who slept too little raised my hopes. either bart-mangled banner was a fluke bad episode, or slept was a fluke good episode.)

Moe In Verse
This could be another good one here. Moe's poems will be good, at least.

Homer's Heartbeat
Assuming it's different from both "Heartbroke" and "Bypass", it could be very good.

Grampa Defined
Possibly another good one, so long as it doesn't turn out Grampa isn't actually Homer's real father (but I doubt it will).

The Three Segments Of Christmas
Christmas episodes are usually good, and if they find a good way to string the segments together, this could be awesome.

Suicidal Assistant
Sounds bad. Prove me wrong.

[Roger Myers III]

I like it! It already includes all of the pointless piffling pontification based on trifling tidbits & titles, and yet it doesn't include the tri-partite Christmas episode with the musical "Nutcracker" act. (Which was recorded long ago, and seems to always escape the p-code hawks.)

[H Thompson]

Thankfully I've bought a sarcasm detector that doesn't overload.

[Drunk Barney]

Some nice episodes there. Marge's Son Poisoning sounds like a classic. Also nice to see a Milhouse episode as well as a Sideshow Bob, Mayour Quimby and even Willy episode. I'm also looking forward to Dan Greaney episode. Has a lot of good episodes under his belt, including Summer of 4ft 2. The one i'm most intrigued about is the Grampa, Homer episode. I hope he is his father though!. The THOH should be good as it is written by Marc Wilmore who wrote " Send in the Clones" in THOH 13. The Moe potery thing with Lisa sounds good too. The Homer has a heart attack sounds good too. Let's hope it's the same quality as Homer's Triple Bypass!. And the only one with detailed description ( The Girl that Slept Too Little) sounds the only meh one. Well here's hoping for a good Season. Al Jean said in a recent interview it's the best we've ever done. Let's hope by the end of the Season we agree with him!

Here's hoping!

[Roger Myers III]

Thankfully I've bought a sarcasm detector that doesn't overload.

Oof - I really did overdo it. The alliterations got me carried away. Sorry, threadie. As you were...

(*don't forget the assisted suicide ep)

[Semaj]

A fight between Homer's yin and yang? And the death of his intellectualism? I'm gonna have to look into THIS one.

[Simpsons Forever!]

It's all just a popularity contest with you Mods!

But, seriously, I'm glad we have a Season 17 thread now. We can start speculating properly and there was no info left for the S16 thread. I'm looking forward to S17 - a load of interesting plots, which should turn out to be good based on Al Jean's previous seasons. Most promising episodes so far are the Christmas trilogy ep, Marge's Son Poisoning and the Moe poet one. Whilst anticipating the return of Sideshow Bob, I'm not sure I want him as mayor of some random Italian town. The worst ones will be The Girl Who Slept Too Little - stamp factory? I knew they were struggling for plots but this is a bit far! Also, the heart attack/fat camp one has literally been "done to death" and THOH's are always a worry. Finally, the most controversial one will be the euthanasia episode. Who will it be focused on? Grampa/Homer? Mrs. Bouvier/Marge? Mr. Burns/Smithers? I can't wait to see that episode. So, all in all, a promising season lies ahead!

[Butters]

Wonder if this years THoH's first tale opens with Homer hitting someone over the head with a bowling ball. :shifty:

And what's all this about an assisted suicide episode? Real or "Homer's Prostitute of S17"?

[Nameless]

Wonder if this years THoH's first tale opens with Homer hitting someone over the head with a bowling ball. :shifty:

And what's all this about an assisted suicide episode? Real or "Homer's Prostitute of S17"?

I think the past two THOHs' first tales having Homer hitting somebody with a bowling ball was coincidence.

Assisted suicide was mentioned in an article somewhere.

[Simpsons Forever!]

Wonder if this years THoH's first tale opens with Homer hitting someone over the head with a bowling ball. :shifty:

And what's all this about an assisted suicide episode? Real or "Homer's Prostitute of S17"?

http://nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=47214

[H Thompson]

Homer's Prostitute got delayed and rewritten a lot, so its now going to be Marge The Prostitue. As antcipated it will bring the return of Mr Bergstrom

When Homer gets fired from the power plant (again) Marge turns to desperate measures to pay for the families welfare. This leads her to a chance encounter with an old friend of Lisa's

[Galalimit]

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[Nameless]

I'm presuming that's a joke, as the copyright database would list both a production code and a title?

EDIT: Just so people know, the post originally had just HABF?? and the description...

[Galalimit]

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[Nameless]

does the copyright database list descriptions? If so, wouldn't we already have the descriptions for all the episodes in the first post?

[vox]

The copyright dadtabase does NOT list descriptions. Silly silverlimit.

[Nameless]

I suspected as much. ;)

So about when will some HABFs pop up on the copyright database?

[Valhum]

sounds interesting, except the similarity between bart's heartattack episode and the homer one.

[Galalimit]

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[H Thompson]

Oof - I really did overdo it. The alliterations got me carried away. Sorry, threadie. As you were...

(*don't forget the assisted suicide ep)

You could be a poet, albeit an unsuccessful one.
And yeah the assisted suicide one is without doubt going to be the worst episode ever, I’m not even going to watch it.

[Nameless]

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been great if that episode were true. I'd love to see an episode like that because basically, the writers won the fight didn't they? ATS is pretty much dead at this point and the critics like Ondre Lombard and Ben Collins are gone. I'd love to see the writers just rub in that fact.

No, it would be kind of a mixture of other episodes.

[vox]

As for the ones I haven't prematurely speculated on yet...

HABF12⅛ - Take My Life, Disease

If handled right, with a good mixture of satire, humor and (depending on who the main character is) emotion, it could be good. But there's not really enough info to judge.

HABF0π - Yule Log Trilogy

The thought of an all-musical segment is really intriguing, and just that is enough to look forward to.

[Nameless]

Oh yeah, and FOX just got a press release stating what new episodes we're getting in November, which gives us longer/new descriptions for THOH XVI, Poisoning, See Homer Run, and Bonfire of the Manatees. I'll paste it here later.

Back on topic, aside from the one musical segment in the christmas trilogy, any news/ideas/theories on what the other two segments could be?

[Brad Clarke]

i hope there is a season 17

[Nameless]

i hope there is a season 17

Well, there is, otherwise this thread wouldn't be here...

[Galalimit]

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[Nameless]

Are you joking or being serious? If you are serious, is the THOH airing in November again this year?

Serious, it's on November 9.




;)

[H Thompson]

HABF0x9 - The Sound of Syzlak jungle remix
Sounds intresting
HAAAAAABF?? The Italian BOOOOOOB
The Italian bob but with shot through a filter to give weird a distorted effect on the animation, and with tweaked colors.

I love making jokes that only I get, it must make everyone think I'm a stupid weirdo.

[vox]

all right, let's stop cluttering the thread with fake info for a few months. don't want this thread to turn into a walking joke.


i guess it'd actually be a stickied joke...

[Brad Clarke]

yeah i guess u are right

[Nameless]

all right, let's stop cluttering the thread with fake info for a few months. don't want this thread to turn into a walking joke.


i guess it'd actually be a stickied joke...

When can we start again? ;)

[vox]

i'd say july.

[Galalimit]

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[Butters]

i'd say july.
I will to wager 400 quataloos that someone fucks up before July and posts another "Homer's Prostitute" idea.

You know i'm surprised. Since they always air the halloween episodes after halloween, i'm surprised they've never aired the christmas episodes after christmas. How can they get the christimas episode right and screw up so badly every year with the halloween episode.
Remember Season 14? Dude, Where's My Ranch was supposedly set near Christmas and aired in February!

[Galalimit]

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[Binky]

Now are the Christmas and "assisted suicide" episodes genuine? I remember reading about them in articles, but were they accurate?

[Galalimit]

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[Butters]

Now are the Christmas and "assisted suicide" episodes genuine? I remember reading about them in articles, but were they accurate?
And for that matter, the "assisted suicide" one could just be a mere one-liner or something. Anyone else remember in Season 14 when the "Mr. Teeny is released into the wild and doesn't get along with the other monkeys" joke from Large Marge was speculated as a plot for a whole episode? There was a few other short jokes that have been leaked in interviews and articles that have often been speculated as an upcoming episode plot.

[Handsome Peter]

Serious, it's on November 9.

November 9? Does anyone know when the latest possible World Series game is this year? (Yes, I know it went to November 4 in 2001, but that was mostly because of a) the Series going to Game 7 and b) 9/11.)

Anyway, that marks the latest a new Halloween special has ever aired on Fox/Global so far.

The Girl Who Slept Too Little: I have two problems here with the family protesting the stamp museum. The first is that Lisa tends to like museums, and the second is that Bart has a stamp collection.

See Homer Run: I think this episode could be hilarious if it's well done, or horrible if it's not.

Last of the Red Hot Mamas: Sorta like the Ricky Gervais episode, in that what we know sounds good, but I'm worried about what we don't know.

Yellow Crush: Doesn't that surfboard thing sorta sound like the poser skateboard in Barting Over?

My Fair Laddy: To me, this sounds like a combined retread of "Lisa's Date with Density" and the subplot of "Duffless", except with Groundskeeper Willie being Lisa's experiment rather than Nelson or Bart.

The Fight of the Homers: This also sounds like a combined retread to me, of "Homer's Enemy" and "Send In the Clones". Let's hope the humour in these two segments hasn't gotten old.

The Italian Bob: Let's hope this keeps the Sideshow Bob series alive.

Slim Simpson: OK, how many times has Homer tried to lose weight over the years?

Oh Father, Where Art Thou?: Perhaps after this episode we'll finally make sense of Abe's ramblings.

The Three Days of Christmas: What I didn't like about "She of Little Faith" was that the rocket, the new church, and the Buddhism seemed disjointed. I hope this one has a more connected plot.

Chop Suey!: I wonder if this will be one of Moe's annual suicide attempts... and what role Mr. Bergstrom will play in it.

alt.tv.homer: I hope it targets us as well as "The ISP Show" did.

The Sound of Szyzlak: Jungle Remix: I wonder if this will make Moe's song into the hit "Everybody Hates Ned Flanders" was. And if David Byrne will play a part in it.

The Italian BOOOOOOB: Should be as cool as "Candle in the Wound" was.

I hope the "joke episodes" actually turn out to be real ones, as most of them sound pretty good.

[Cartoonnetwork]

The return of Mr. Bergstrom is a real fact? I don't want to see him coming back at all! It will just not work! But I hope to...

The one about Grandpa possibly not being Homer's father doesn't sound good for me, either.

And The Girl Who Slept Too Little is another plot I don't find very good.

Italian Bob...after watching Goo Goo Gai Pan I'm terribly tired of vacation episodes. Please, make this one a little less wackier (or at least fun-wacky, which means NOT OVERUSING OF HOMER PAIN GAGS, possibly the first and one of the few flaws in current episodes).

But...season 16 has been great, so possibly there would be lots of good episodes.

[Galalimit]

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[Butters]

The return of Mr. Bergstrom is a real fact? I don't want to see him coming back at all! It will just not work! But I hope to...
No, it's just a joke that was started last December and has dragged on for months.

[Galalimit]

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[mohammed jafar]

is there an alternate season 17 information thread where people can read the INFORMATION we have on SEASON 17 without having to wade through a lot of bad jokes, fabricated titles and banal speculation?

[Binky]

Well, there's the first post of this thread. And maybe there should be a written warning that the information posted on the first two pages isn't accurate.

[Galalimit]

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

Why does The Girl Who Slept Too Little sound bad to everyone? I like the idea.
GABF17 - Treehouse of Horror XVI - Written by Marc Wilmore (scary name TBA)
How about "Dark Killmore"? O.o

[Binky]

I think The Girl Who Slept Too Little would've made a great season finale, just looking at the episode description, but I'm sure it'll make a great season opener too.

[DuffMan72]

If any of these episodes are real, they sound like rehashes from older episodes.

[H Thompson]

is there an alternate season 17 information thread where people can read the INFORMATION we have on SEASON 17 without having to wade through a lot of bad jokes, fabricated titles and banal speculation?

Sorry. Can I get banned for a day, I need to calm down and show some restraint.

[Andy]

...just... stop... responding to fake information.

edit: heh, just noticed Binky's disclaimer. Thanks.

[Galalimit]

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[Sloppy Jimbo IV]

How about "Dark Killmore"?

You know, from what I've heard, Marc Wilmore's actually black, so that name's either tremendously fitting or exceedingly offensive. Good work. :mexican:

[Galalimit]

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[vox]

Yeah, thanks Binky. Sorry for starting the whole fake info thing.

Though, I'm not gonna stop making up titles for episodes that don't have them yet, simply because I've always done it.

[Binky]

It seems someone forgot to add this info about Ricky Gervais' episode from a while ago:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds18740.html

[Tomacco]

Can we stop with the fake titles and descriptions? This is how TV Tome lives and breathes.

[vox]

Can we stop with the fake titles and descriptions? This is how TV Tome lives and breathes.
We've stopped.

[Eart]

You know, from what I've heard, Marc Wilmore's actually black, so that name's either tremendously fitting or exceedingly offensive. Good work. :mexican:

:laugh:

[Simpsons Forever!]

It seems someone forgot to add this info about Ricky Gervais' episode from a while ago:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds18740.html

I remember that being mentioned somewhere in the S16 thread, but it faded into the background again.

[Dr. Bartley]

...And still no news on when we are going to see "There's Something About Marrying", which Ten recently skipped over. They promote the episode in their "Seriously Entertaining" promo, so that means we could see it anywhere between May and.. November. Yay.

There's Something About Marrying will air 7.30pm Tuesday (May 17th)

[Nameless]

Remember Season 14? Dude, Where's My Ranch was supposedly set near Christmas and aired in February!

Yeah, but the Christmas part was just a lead-in to OFF getting to the dude ranch.

, and the second is that Bart has a stamp collection.

That was just a line for a gag in Homer the Vigilante.

[H Thompson]

You know, from what I've heard, Marc Wilmore's actually black, so that name's either tremendously fitting or exceedingly offensive. Good work. :mexican:

I guess they have a token black writer on staff, in fact wasn't he Co executive producer with Steve Tompkins on The PJs.
Also where was it confirmed that Eddie Izzard would be appearing.

[Galalimit]

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[Rory Mitch]

Overall, this Season sounds great. I think The Girl who Slept Too Little and The Italian Bob sound especially good. Season 16 has been to me the best season since sesaons 2-9, so S17 will have to be good to beat it.

[Simpsons Forever!]

So about when will some HABFs pop up on the copyright database?

What's the copyright database?

[Nameless]

What's the copyright database?

It's a website that lists all copyrighted things, including new Simpsons titles, their production codes and writers.

[Simpsons Forever!]

What's the website address?

[vox]

What's the website address?
http://www.copyright.gov/records/

HABFs won't be up for a while, probably not until September or later.

[Galalimit]

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[Binky]

I'm thinking that the "Aussie Information" section should be moved to anoher thread, as it doesn't have that much to do with season 17. Perhaps it could be put into a combined UK/Australia discussion thread, seeing as they're both still airing season 16?

[Nameless]

I don't particularly see the need for that...

[SideshowTim]

I'm thinking that the "Aussie Information" section should be moved to anoher thread, as it doesn't have that much to do with season 17. Perhaps it could be put into a combined UK/Australia discussion thread, seeing as they're both still airing season 16?
it doesn't bother you that much does it?

[vox]

it doesn't bother you that much does it?
Well, it really has nothing to do with Season 17, which is what this thread is about. It just doesn't make logical sense to have it in this thread, which is what I think he was saying.

[pea tear griffin]

i can't wait until season 17.

[Nameless]

neither can I. :p

[david195]

Originally posted by Nameless
Oh yeah, and FOX just got a press release stating what new episodes we're getting in November, which gives us longer/new descriptions for THOH XVI, Poisoning, See Homer Run, and Bonfire of the Manatees. I'll paste it here later.

How do you know this?

[Nameless]

How do you know this?

...read the first post disclaimer ;)

[david195]

Sorry. Season 17 sounds really good from the information we have at the moment and I'm really looking forward to it.

[Simpsons Forever!]

http://www.copyright.gov/records/

HABFs won't be up for a while, probably not until September or later.

Thanks. Does the database list all the episodes? And, I would expect HABFs to be earlier than September, seeing as we already have the title to one, at least - My Fair Laddy - and the Xmas episode has to be an HABF, and will air in December.

[Nameless]

Thanks. Does the database list all the episodes? And, I would expect HABFs to be earlier than September, seeing as we already have the title to one, at least - My Fair Laddy - and the Xmas episode has to be an HABF, and will air in December.

Presumably it does, although all I found searching were some AABFs-FABFs, and some 4Fs. And just because we got the titles off articles and webchats and the like, doesn't mean they'll pop up on the database any sooner.

[Binky]

Looks like FOX announced their summer schedule today.

Sundays (through June 26):
KING OF THE HILL (7:00-7:30 PM ET/PT)
MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE (7:30-8:00 PM ET/PT)
THE SIMPSONS (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT)
THE SIMPSONS (8:30-9:00 PM ET/PT)
FAMILY GUY (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT)
AMERICAN DAD (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT)

Sundays (beginning July 10):
KING OF THE HILL (7:00-7:30 PM ET/PT)
MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE (7:30-8:00 PM ET/PT)
THE SIMPSONS (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT)
THE PRINCES OF MALIBU (premieres July 10) (8:30-9:00 PM ET/PT)
FAMILY GUY (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT)
AMERICAN DAD (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT)

There's no mention of Arrested Development, even though getarrested.com says "Arrested Development returns this summer".

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[Evan1109]

I haven't been up on Simpsons news much lately...

Anyways, they all look good, except for the "Homer goes to fat camp" one. If they're going to have such an incredibly similar episode, at LEAST space it out more that a season or two. The Heartbroke Kid was a pretty damn good episode, I'd hate to see the possibility of it getting "destroyed"...

EDIT: Hey, waiwaiwait, there's an episode called "Bonfire of the Manatees"? That was a mission in Hit & Run, wasn't it? Probably no similarity whatsoever, but worth thinking about I guess.

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[Nameless]

IIRC he's only been writing since S7, but the only bad episodes he's written were Bart To The Future and My Sister, My Sitter.

(As mentioned somewhere in the S16 thread, couldn't "Bonfire" possibly be the Homer goes to fat camp episode?)

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[H Thompson]

Well I liked My Sister My Sitter.
He's yet to write a bad non Scully produced episode. which isn't that many actually.
IIRC which I probably don't there were 2 eps in season 7, 1 in 8 and there's been 2 Jean era episodes.
Actually this'll be his first non-collabrative episode for a while.

[Nameless]

Yeah, season 7, which started production either in late 1994 or early 1995 so he HAS been there 10 years.

But in terms of actual broadcast episodes, he's been writing since...oh, wait, you win. :)

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[the simpsons brainiac]

This is good formatting

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[Jamie]

- Homer suffers a heart attack, so the family sends him to a weight-loss camp. (Despite the similarity to The Heartbroke Kid, this will apparently be a different episode with a different story.)

Another one?

[Dramaturgical Dyad]

I'm looking forward to the Moe becomes a poet episode, as a big fan of Bukowski I'll be eating up the beat references.
I never realised before, but Moe Syzlak is probably the closest thing we have to a Henry Chinaski or William E. Lee on primetime television.

[H Thompson]

I have high hopes for the Moe episode on the basis that the 2 Moe episodes of the Jean era have been the 2 best episodes of the Jean era.
Moe Baby Blues A
Mommie Beerest A-/A

Any chance of John Swartzwelder coming back this season?


Can you stop asking this and just wait patiently ? Only Rog might know and the only infomation he's giving is that he took a break to write his book.

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[Nameless]

June 5 schedule
8:00 PM The Seven-Beer Snitch
8:30 PM Pranksta Rap

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[Thrillhouse24]

sounds ok but we will have to wait and see

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[Drunk Barney]

Sorry, it's just that John Swartzwelder is my favorite writer and I miss his work alot.I think most people feel the same way too. I'm sure he will return. And if he doesn't he'll be there for the movie anyway.

As for the Dan Greaney writing credit that excites me. He's my fav writer after S'welder and Vitti. After all he wrote Summer of 4ft 2!

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

For the June 5 schedule, they should air There's Something About Marrying or any episode that hasn't gotten a second airing yet. Or they could air Treehouse of Horror 15 again because its only other airing was in December on a special night. But they're probably saving it for the day closest to Halloween when they can't air the 16th one.

[Scorpion McClure]

Okay, so is the Christmas Trilogy of Error episode actually real? If so, it would probably be good.

And I think anyone who posts new episodes from now on should put a source, so that what they say can actually be confirmed.

I'm looking forward to the Willie episode. I've been waiting for a full Willie ep for a long time. I'm also hoping for a good flashback and maybe a Maggie episode. Maggie eps have a VERY VERY good track record (Except possibly Hello Gutter, Hello Fadder)

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[Nameless]

Or they could air Treehouse of Horror 15 again because its only other airing was in December on a special night. But they're probably saving it for the day closest to Halloween when they can't air the 16th one.

Including the XV rerun, a THOH episode has been rerun outside of October-November six times according to SNPP, so they could air it during the summer, but it's not that likely.

[H Thompson]

and it'll be intresting to see if jafar, jimbo and tibor will have grounds to sue over the christmas script, maybe Rog could represent them.



EDIT I'll post these anyway for the benefit of those that don't know
http://www.geocities.com/rabidweinerdog/wholething.rtf christmas script
http://www.geocities.com/rabidweinerdog/kr222.rtf Tibor and Jafar's script
http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33959 Jimbo's THOH segment

all very good by the way, amazing for fanfiction, and you know there actually scripts and not episode ideas.


So there now you can all have Silverlimit licking your ass constantly begging you to write more often.

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[Nameless]

I wasn't around at the time, but the three worked together on a Christmas-themed script, and I can only assume it was a tripartite.

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[Nameless]

Found this:

http://nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=35932

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http://www.snpp.com/episodeguide/season17.html lists THOH airing on 7 November, which I'm assuming is a typo, as that isn't a Sunday?

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[Red Right]

GABF21 - See Homer Run - Written by Stephanie Gillis
Mayor Quimby faces a recall election, leaving Homer with the opportunity to run.
I don't know whether or not to be looking foward to this episode or hiding my eyes. The plot seems poor. Homer running for Mayor, c'mon? The same time there may be a plus since the previous Springfield story was solid.

[simplysimpsons]

It's another idea taken from Simpsons Comics - the comic was done well, imo.

"Marge's son poisoning" is my most anticipated so far, although little is known about the other episodes, it sounds like a great premise. "Girl who slept too little" also sounds cool, and I hope it'll be aired early in the summer.

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

There were only 21 episodes this season, so maybe Fox would stick in another episode. Lard of the Dance and Blood Feud were aired during the summer. If there's a show Fox wants to get good ratings that will air in the summer, then it's possible they'll air another. But I feel doubtful they will, even though I want them to.

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[vox]

That would be great but sadly, I just don't see Fox doing that.
They did it with Blood Feud, Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes?, Lard of the Dance and Poppa's Got a Brand New Badge. Why wouldn't they do it again?

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[vox]

True, but I don't see why they wouldn't use and extra holdover to boost ratings for their summer lineup, especially if Arrested is really going to be returning over the summer. Not to mention American Dad and Family Guy, which will undoubtedly experience some decline in ratings, because summer shows always do get lower ratings.

[Drunk Barney]

Poppa's Got a Brande New Badge aired at the end of May like most Season finales.?

[vox]

Poppa's Got a Brande New Badge aired at the end of May like most Season finales.?
Well, it was billed as a summer original, as The Frying Game was the official season finale. It's even noted at SNPP (where I assume you checked the dates):

Episode CABF22 [The Parent Rap] is the official season thirteen premiere, and episode DABF16 [The Frying Game] is the official season thirteen finale.

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[Semaj]

Well, if it didn't air, Season 13 would've had only 13 episodes, as Season 16 did. But due to FOX's messy scheduling this year, S16 came to be the shortest season since S12.

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[Simpsons Forever!]

Fox have announced their 2005-2006 schedule. The most notable thing is that Malcolm In The Middle has been moved to Friday.

SUNDAY
7:00-7:30 PM Animated Encores
7:30-8:00 PM KING OF THE HILL
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS
8:30-9:00 PM THE WAR AT HOME
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY
9:30-10:00 PM AMERICAN DAD

From January 2006:
SUNDAY
7:00-7:30 PM Animated Encores
7:30-8:00 PM KING OF THE HILL
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS
8:30-9:00 PM THE WAR AT HOME
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY
9:30-10:00 PM AMERICAN DAD

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

Wasn't Poppa's Got A Brand New Badge airing, a last minute decision by Fox? Was there any promotion for that even?
There were TV commercials.

What the heck is "The War at Home?" Is it animated?

[Binky]

Nope, it's a sitcom.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/specials/fox200506pilots/war.html

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[Handsome Peter]

Season 16 did not have 13 episodes, it had 21 and season 13 had 22. I think you made a mistake there, heh.

If "Season 16" was referring to GABF, Semaj would only be one off - there were 14 of those in Season 16.

Also note that Seasons 12 and 16 are equally short, at 21 episodes apiece. So Season 16 was actually a tie for the shortest season since Season 1.

Hmmm... if "The War at Home" were animated, then all 3 hours of Fox's primetime Sunday lineup would be animated. Animation Domination indeed!

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Because they know the only time anyone would watch it would be right after The Simpsons.

[BartLisa35]

IIRC he's only been writing since S7, but the only bad episodes he's written were Bart To The Future and My Sister, My Sitter.

(As mentioned somewhere in the S16 thread, couldn't "Bonfire" possibly be the Homer goes to fat camp episode?)

I thought Bonfire was the episode where Homer joined a fat pride group, and Marge and Lisa baked cookies.

[Butters]

I thought Bonfire was the episode where Homer joined a fat pride group, and Marge and Lisa baked cookies.
No, that was one of the joke plots that were made in the Season 16 thread. I think it was Jafar who did it, and I think someone (Nameless or Silverlimit. I refuse to call you you're new names), believed him for about half a page, and then started babbling on about "how Jafar was the greatest genius ever, and his idea sounded so realistic!".

[H Thompson]

No I think Jafar's fake plot was different, But it was Al Jean who mentioned on a webchat that Homer goes to fat camp ( I think)
and where does Butters get off criticising people for changing their names.
I know he changed his name from a quote from a bad s10 episode, whereas Nameless and Silverlimit changed them to bad Simpsons writers but still (That said Maxtone Graham has greatly improved his resume the last 2 seasons)

[Butters]

and where does Butters get off criticising people for changing their names.
I know he changed his name from a quote from a bad s10 episode, whereas Nameless and Silverlimit changed them to bad Simpsons writers but still (That said Maxtone Graham has greatly improved his resume the last 2 seasons)
I think that it is really cheesy that both of them changed their names to Simpsons writers, and both are the two most active users here. I mean, I'd willingly call them their correct names if one of them had changed their names, but this is erriely weird.
And, yes, I used to be called "Cosmic Fool", but when I changed my name to "Butters", you didn't see someone like "Wezzo" changing his name the same day to "Tweek".
I'm wondering though, out of the two of them, whom was the first to change their name?

Oh, and H_T, Jafar's fake plot was exactly that. Homer goes to a fat pride camp and Marge and Lisa bake cookies. Jafar came up with the idea before the Al Jean chat, iirc.

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[Dr. Bartley]

any news on anymore new episodes?

[H Thompson]

You're right Butters

It is creepy. I thought i'd change my name to that of a internet hated writer like Mike Scully did as a joke. But as soon as I changed my name, Nameless then changed hers 5 mintues later. She follows everything I do. Ever notice in a thread, whenever I make a post, she INSTANTLY replies less than a second later? She really creeps me out but luckily, she hasn't posted here in a few days oddily so things are better.

Well it's not suprising considering your both here almost every minute of the day. But it would probably take longer than 5 minutes for her to see that you've changed your name, pm an admin and then for he admin to make the change.
So don't make out like she's weird and your normal.

[Dr. Bartley]

who's Tim Long Homer_Thompson?

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[Butters]

Oh, great, I can see Page 6 of the Season 17 thread is going to be very productive.

[mohammed jafar]

tim long : the simpsons :: silverlimit : nohomers club

[Drunk Barney]

Can you lot put away your prams and handbags and only post if it is relevent to the title of this thread " Season 17 Information " !

[H Thompson]

Calm down you stupid cunts, this is the internet its supposed to be filled with petty childish insults and sarcasm towards other people. and commenting on the fact that the posts are irrelervant only makes it worse.

Now I'll drop this if everyone else does.

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[Homer the Moe]

I have high hopes for this season. There seem to be a lot of good, strong storylines, something I think the past few seasons have lacked.

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[bovine_university]

He said it's going to be very different and much better because they've hired alot of new writers on the staff. Intresting.

New writers? This is either going to be really great or really terrible for the show. I see nothing wrong with injecting the show with some new blood in the writing staff, but let's hope that these new writers know what their doing.

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I've noticed on the Copyright Database GABF22 is titled, "The Last Of The Red Hat Mamas," but on the first page of this thread it is, "The Last Of The Red Hot Mamas." So which one's right?

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

Well, if it's Red Hat in the copyright database, then that has to be right. Now that it's likely not "Hot Mamas", the title's less disturbing to me.

[Andy]

I've noticed on the Copyright Database GABF22 is titled, "The Last Of The Red Hat Mamas," but on the first page of this thread it is, "The Last Of The Red Hot Mamas." So which one's right?
Then... this episode has something to do with Linux?

[Binky]

Well, if it's Red Hat in the copyright database, then that has to be right. Now that it's likely not "Hot Mamas", the title's less disturbing to me.
It should also be noted that "The Simpsons" is misspelled for that entry in the database; it's spelled "Simpsonss" with the extra s. So "red hat" may very well be a typo too.

[Nameless]

June 12 schedule
8:00pm Goo Goo Gai Pan
8:30pm Mommie Beerest

[NoJean]

Some of these episodes sound awful, some of them sound really good.


It's much to early however to say really anything however.


Although I do wish they wouldn't bring back Mr Bergstrum... or Bob for another matter he should have ended with his brother's episode.

[Nameless]

Although I do wish they wouldn't bring back Mr Bergstrum... or Bob for another matter he should have ended with his brother's episode.

Well, they didn't bring back Bergstrom, and they're probably not going to bring him back, so you're happy, right?

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[Nameless]

I dunno, Jean has already brought back a ton of one-timers. But Bergstrom was different from the others, so I semi-doubt he would.

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[Nameless]

That was three minutes. And this is two.

It's just that we're on NHC on similar times.

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

It should also be noted that "The Simpsons" is misspelled for that entry in the database; it's spelled "Simpsonss" with the extra s. So "red hat" may very well be a typo too.
Oh, then it probably isn't "Hat."

Why are we getting two episodes that have already been reran before on June 12 when there's still some that haven't? I think There's Something About Marrying still needs a second showing.

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[vox]

When "There's Something About Marrying" aired in Australia, did Disco Stu's line about John Paul II get edited out? Perhaps that's what's keeping them from airingit a second time here.

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[Nameless]

Haha, http://www.snpp.com/upcoming.shtml has both the June 5 and June 12 repeats marked as Season Finales.

On Marrying, couldn't they just edit the line out before airing it? Or did they get so much backlash against it it won't be aired again?

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[Nameless]

Gay marriage. Some people might have been offended, even in spite of the disclaimer.

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[Nameless]

some people probably will be for whatever reason, though.

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[Nameless]

incidentally, what Futurama episodes did Patric M. Verrone, writer of Milhouse of Sand and Fog write? Then we can possibly make slightly more educated wild guesses about the episode.

[TerrorK]

incidentally, what Futurama episodes did Patric M. Verrone, writer of Milhouse of Sand and Fog write? Then we can possibly make slightly more educated wild guesses about the episode.

Patric M. Verrone wrote the following Futurama episodes...


1ACV06 -- A Fishful of Dollars
2ACV01 -- I Second That Emotion
2ACV10 -- A Clone of My Own
2ACV15 -- The Problem with Popplers*
3ACV08 -- That's Lobstertainment!
3ACV16 -- A Leela of Her Own
4ACV12 -- The Sting

* = written with another writer, Darin Henry

[Drunk Barney]

I don't really watch futurama, so could someone tell me what those episodes were like?

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[Homer Jay]

They really range in quality. That's Lobstertainment is the worst one ever, while The Sting is one of the best. For the most part, his episodes were about average for the season.

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[Nameless]

"The Sting" was fantastic, others range from average to bad. Personally I'm hoping it's more like The Sting and less like That's Lobsertainment.

[mohammed jafar]

yeah it varies pretty wildly. leela of her own, lobstertainment and clone of my own are all quite weak. the sting and the problem with popplers are great, the rest are pretty good. every futurama writer in fact seems to have an incredibly inconsistent writing record, which seems to suggest the writing of the show was heavily committee-orientated (an impression which also comes across in the commentaries).

verrone also wrote for the critic, btw, and consequently worked on a star is burns and (i think) round springfield.

[Nameless]

verrone also wrote for the critic, btw,

Before anybody asks: He wrote A Pig-Boy And His Dog, All The Duke's Men, then had contributions to the clip show.

[User 1.0]

And he wrote for Bongo Comics, too.
-Futurama Comics #11, #14 (and #20)
-Simpsons Comics #85

[Nameless]

Those are instantly 90% worse than the episodes, though...

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[Maxime]

Be careful, I have the impression that this thread is going off-topic...

And, by the way, why do you include australian season 16 information in a thread dedicated to season 17??

I think that a separate thread about season 16 information in Australia posted as a sticky would be much more appropriate...

Last time I came here for an update, I saw "Updated on May 23", and I was disappointed to see that the new information did not concern season 17, but season 16 in Australia.

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[DotheBartman]

1ACV06 -- A Fishful of Dollars
2ACV01 -- I Second That Emotion
2ACV10 -- A Clone of My Own
2ACV15 -- The Problem with Popplers*
3ACV08 -- That's Lobstertainment!
3ACV16 -- A Leela of Her Own
4ACV12 -- The Sting



Yeah, those vary a lot. The 3ACV ones are mediocrish, The Sting is all time classic, Popplers and Clone of My Own are really good, others are average. The only way we could make an educated guess is if we see what the plot is (I don't think we have? Its been tough wading through this thread....) considering the Futurama ones similarly seem to vary based on the plotline.

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[Maxime]

Because season 16 hasn't finished in australia yet.

I know, but do you really think that posting season 16-related information (no matter about which country) in the season 17 information thread is logical?

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[Maxime]

Not convinced about that. Oh, well, it's late here in France, I'd better go to sleep :)

[Binky]

Last time I came here for an update, I saw "Updated on May 23", and I was disappointed to see that the new information did not concern season 17, but season 16 in Australia.
I guess I could stop doing that from now on for Australia info. I didn't want to do it anyway, but then I though that some Australians would like to see the red notice at the top when new season 16 info is added.

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[Nameless]

You could have "new australia info" updates as a different colour. Or just link to the SNPP page.

[Head Bee-Guy]

I don't understand why you put Australian schedules updates on this thread whereas UK schedules updates are filed away on SNPP.com. Are there not enough people to support an "Australian schedule discussion" thread?

[Nameless]

We have the Aussie Lounge, which discusses Simpsons schedules among other things, so sort of...

[Maxime]

No keep doing it. it isn't fair to all the australian fans on here.

And do you think that it's fair to all other fans which aren't from Australia or America?

You could have "new australia info" updates as a different colour. Or just link to the SNPP page.

Definitely agree. It would solve both problems: keep one thread for those who do not want a separate thread, and avoid confusion for those who came here for season 17-related info and who sadly discovered that the only "update" was not actually concerning season 17 :)

[vox]

No keep doing it. it isn't fair to all the australian fans on here.
I think you're missing the logic. This is the "Season 17" thread. Not the "current season wherever you live" thread. It's meant for Season 17 information and discussion, and I don't see how anything pertaining to Season 16, but not 17, fits in here.

[Nameless]

Or, we could rename it "Season 17 and upcoming new abroad season 16 episodes thread".

[mohammed jafar]

agreed with vox. this thread should be for information about brand new episodes airing in north america. non-US syndication schedules should absolutely not be included, especially if it's not even season 17, and certainly not just one country included and no others for no apparent reason. start an australian simpsons update thread or something, similar to the uk thread, or as someone suggested just put a link to the snpp non-us schedules page.

[Binky]

Done, and done. I replaced the Austalia info section with links to SNPP's Europer and Australia listings along with links to the UK Discussion and Aussie/Zealander Lounge threads.

[Maxime]

Agree with everybody, especially with Mohammed Jafar.
Silverlimit is going to kill me :D

[Nameless]

why would he kill you...?

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[Maxime]

Geez Carolyn, he was joking.
Absolutely, otherwise I wouldn't be here to answer :D
You should have noticed the smiley :)

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[Nameless]

IMDB.com say that he's working on "Ice Age 2", which is in pre-production.

[Drunk Barney]

When did they say that Silverlimit?

[Nameless]

Hydro mentioned RMIII bringing that up in a thread where a newspaper reviewer gave Regina Monologues a 5/5 IIRC, the search function should find it easily.

[Simpsons Forever!]

19th June:
8:00 Don't Fear The Roofer
8:30 Mobile Homer

www.wvah.com/schedule

[Nameless]

Well, it's nice that they're repeating two unrepeated episodes, but I would have thought they'd rerun Marrying by now, it's been four months...

[Binky]

I read somewhere that Family Guy will have 7 uninterrupted episodes beginning next week, so there will also probably be 14 uninterrupted repeats of The Simpsons coming up.

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[E-I-E-I-Moe]

I read somewhere that Family Guy will have 7 uninterrupted episodes beginning next week, so there will also probably be 14 uninterrupted repeats of The Simpsons coming up.
What does that mean? There will be seven or fourteen or how ever many Sundays with Simpsons repeats in a row?

[Binky]

It means that FOX will air their regular Sunday night lineup for 7 weeks in a row.

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[The lesson is never try]

so...what are everyones expectations of season 17? season 16 was just a little bit out of a return to the classics, hopefully season 17 will bring it back.

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[Tomacco]

These repeats might not even be from season 16 guys. Last night on global they aired two reruns from season 14 from 8pm to 9pm.

Yeah, that's just Global choosing from a random pool of episodes when Fox isn't showing any. No indication of anything.

[Wasteland]

These repeats might not even be from season 16 guys. Last night on global they aired two reruns from season 14 from 8pm to 9pm.

I hope they show THOH IVX (14) and Fat And the Furriest. I missed those episodes, and I can't find a way to see them.

[bovine_university]

After seasons 15 and 16, I'm a little pessimistic, but if the new writers can give the show some new life, we could see some great improvement. At the moment though, it seems like the show can go either way.

[Galalimit]

I think having a bunch of new writers can't hurt really. Right now, the only great writer is Matt Selman, with J. Stewart Burns and Michael Price just above average. The rest are all average or lower.

[mohammed jafar]

really? wow. would you care to share with us the rest of our results from the extensive personal evaluations you apparently conducted on every member of the simpsons writing staff?

[Galalimit]

What the hell is your problem, always attacking my posts and pretty much everything I say. I'm not including guys like Al Jean or Mike Reiss. I'm just talking about the guys that actually start/write scripts, not guys that are only involved in rewrites like Jean/Reiss/Mirkin etc.

Jafar, if you criticize me or attack my posts one more time, i'm reporting you to a mod because i've had it with you. I don't ever say or do anything bad to you. I reported Paul and it helped in getting him banned for a few weeks and right now, you're way worse than Paul.

[Nameless]

He was making a very valid point all the same, he isn't trying to go on at you for no apparent reason...

[mohammed jafar]

if you keep saying really stupid things, people will argue with you. if you want people to stop arguing with you, stop saying really stupid things. it's not hard.

[Veryjammy]

Why are people having a go at Silverlimit? There are tons of threads where people say Jon Swartzelder is better than Jon Vitti or Ian Maxtone-Graham is rubbish, despite the fact that deep down we all know they only write about 30% of the script. So what's the difference between Silverlimit saying that, based on the writing credits, he only thinks 3 people on the staff are good, when we're always debating writer's merits anyway? I would broadly agree with his choices, based on the episodes those guys were credited with writing.

[Galalimit]

if you keep saying really stupid things, people will argue with you. if you want people to stop arguing with you, stop saying really stupid things. it's not hard.


I can't believe you're still going on. How is saying "Matt Selman is the only great writer on the staff right now, with J. Stewart Burns and Michael Price just above average, all the other writers are average and below" a stupid thing to say?

And whatever, i'm sick of this crap from you Jafar, i've just sent a PM compliant to one of the mods of this section.

[mohammed jafar]

because it's a totally inane and insulting statement. it's one thing to say "matt selman has a good writing record" or "the only good thing ian maxtone-graham has written has been such-and-such", it's entirely another to make personal statements about all of the writers being "average or below" when you know absolutely nothing about them beyond what episodes they're credited with. i may have overlooked it if a couple of weeks ago you hadn't similarly insulted the koth writers with a similarly totally ill-informed post (which you later edited out and claimed was "dumb"), or insulted harry shearer with a similarly totally ill-informed post just yesterday. stop making opinionated judgements about people and things you know nothing about, and people will not make fun of or argue with you.

[Galalimit]

As Veryjammy said, I made that writers statment "based on the episodes those guys were credited with writing." Even though only 30% of their original script made remain intact, there's still a difference between different writers episodes.

And just becuase only 30% of that original script remains intact, doesn't mean that only 30% of the episode is actually that writers own material. The specific writer is also involved in the rewriting process so he might've(most likely did) added new things in the script later on.

[Nameless]

Jafar still wins. He has made good points to all your posts.

[Dorkus Malorkus]

jafar has a good point, but there's no need to be an ass about it, it's pretty obvious silverlimit's gonna get pissed off...

[H Thompson]

It's perfectly understandable to get angry with people when they post 100 times a day with stupid inane posts. He's done this many times before now making either ill informed posts or unessecary 1 sentence posts. He's using this place as a chatroom. It's got beyond ridiculous now. are there any threads on this site where Silverlimit doesn't make useless half sentence or ill-informed comments. When I come here I hope to engage at least one brain cell but there seems to be very little activity and discussion besides Silverlimit and Nameless Omine going back and fourth over boring crap.

[mohammed jafar]

silverlimit, it's been clarified many times in many threads that it's impossible to make any observations on the style of individual writers (at least in the later more committee-driven seasons). even well-known perceptions of writers' styles like tim long's third act wackiness and maxtone-graham's on-the-run stories don't stand up to much scrutiny. and certainly what we can tell about individual writers from their episodes is nowhere near enough to validate statements about the writers themselves like "all the other writers are average at best", especially when your "30% of the original script" understanding of how the writing process works and how that would relate to the writer credits is woefully oversimplified and glib.

[Homer Jay]

Also how can there be only 3 writers who are average or above average? Do you know what average means?