How Would You Rate "Jaws Wired Shut"?

[Tomacco]

Well, this episode looks like a blunder to me. I just saw the commercial. Homer seems to break his jaw be running (without looking of course) face first into a gold statue of Drederick Tatum (or some boxer). It then shows Homer bonding with Bart, Lisa, and Marge, but I think the tone of the episode was ruined right away in a scene where Homer and Marge are dancing at a romantic place:
Marge: This is the most wonderful evening I've ever had.
Homer: (through his jaw wiring) I'm..horny!

Doesn't that sound great!? :rolleyes If you're gonna miss an episode, I have a feeling this will be a good choice.

[Splashmore]

Homer with a huge cage on his head? Now that's realistic!
I think this episode will be THE worst of the season.

[Dennis]

the plot seems kind of lame but I'm sure i'll enjoy it

[Tomacco]

I just saw a different commercial. They're at the doctor's office, and Marge comments about how Homer can no longer eat solid foods. Then it cuts to Homer sitting on the couch trying to push a chunk of steak into his mouth, but can't, so he snorts it up his nose. That shot was stupid and cartoony, which is making me hate the look of this episode even more. Then it showed Homer getting his wires stuck on Marge's pacifier, and trying to get her off by swinging her around. Oh god, this episode looks awful, and far too much like a season 11 episode. Jean, this is starting to worry me! :(

[Splashmore]

Yes. I didn't think highly of this when Homer snorts steak up his nose.

[Zjraus]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I just saw a different commercial. They're at the doctor's office, and Marge comments about how Homer can no longer eat solid foods. Then it cuts to Homer sitting on the couch trying to push a chunk of steak into his mouth, but can't, so he snorts it up his nose. That shot was stupid and cartoony, which is making me hate the look of this episode even more. Then it showed Homer getting his wires stuck on Marge's pacifier, and trying to get her off by swinging her around. Oh god, this episode looks awful, and far too much like a season 11 episode. Jean, this is starting to worry me! :(

That's the commercial I saw too. I'm not expecting anything good out of this episode.

By the way, you mean Maggie's pacifier. ;)

[cyben5150]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Then it showed Homer getting his wires stuck on Marge's pacifier, and trying to get her off by swinging her around.

and thus ends the only laughter i will get from this episode.

[Tomacco]

HAHAHH! WHOOPS! MAGGIE MAGGIE MAGGIE's pacifier! Not Marge. HEH.

[eric]

:LOL:

[Nugan]

I've yet to see either comercial, but, judging by what has been posted about them, they seem pretty dismal.

I'm not going to give up hope completely though. After all, the commercials have a tendancy to show the worst of an episode rather then the best. Lets not forget last week's "Homer keeps landing on things" commercial.

[Rose]

Originally posted by Tomacco
. . . They're at the doctor's office, and Marge comments about how Homer can no longer eat solid foods. Then it cuts to Homer sitting on the couch trying to push a chunk of steak into his mouth, but can't, so he snorts it up his nose. . . .



I'm sorry, but this scene was the funniest thing I've seen on the Simpsons in a loooong time!!!!!!


Yes, the Simpsons are going downhill, but it's still not a 'bad' show. If you want to see a bad show that's gone downhill - watch Charmed. :rolleyes


The Simpsons is at least entertaining, and they still make a few good points here and there. You just gotta read into what you think M Groening would want us to see. Or, kick back, get into Homer's stash, and just laugh your ass off becuase it's still the SImpsons! *lol*


:LOL:

[Tomacco]

I know, I still love the Simpsons more than anything, but this episode looks like it could be the season's blunder episode. Every season in the last 4 years has AT LEAST one blunder (in season 11 there were about 4 actually).

Season 12: "Simpson Safari"
Season 11: "Kill tha Alligator and Run"
Season 10: "Homer Simpson in: Kidney Trouble"
Season 9: "All Singing, All Dancing"

[Hans Mattman]

If Season 11 had about 4 "Blunder" episodes then Season 12 had about 20!!!!

I wont even see this episode for like another 2-3 months so I don't know why I replying yet LOL!! :LOL:

[Tomacco]

I think season 12 may have overall been a little better than season 11. But that's another topic, for another thread. :)

[Tirefire]

Hopefully this will be the complete opposite of The Blunder Years, where the majority of people had high expectations and got let down, maybe our low expectations will be unfounded.

[PrinceBejeeta]

Well from what I can make out it sounds kinda dumb but who knows it may turn out ok.

[Kalbelgarion]

Methinks we shouldn't draw conclusions about the episode when we've only seen 3 small pieces of it. :)

Of course, if this episode is much, much better than the FOX commercials are letting on (My, my...imagine that!) then we'll all love this episode.

[J.Re*]

Originally posted by Kalbelgarion
Methinks we shouldn't draw conclusions about the episode when we've only seen 3 small pieces of it. :)

Of course, if this episode is much, much better than the FOX commercials are letting on (My, my...imagine that!) then we'll all love this episode.
meagrees

[Mr. Plow]

Either Jaws Wired Shut or The Blunder Years will be the worst of season 13. i hafta wait and see and after sunday, i think i'll stick to my predictions. And by worst i mean it could have been better.i dont mean horse shit worst

[Mike Scully]

Good episodes that I first watched with low expectations:
-King Size Homer (Homer gains 61 pounds to get worker's comp)
-Homer vs the 18th Amendment (beer is prohibited, so Homer smuggles alcohol into Springfield)
-Bart Carny (carnies steal the Simpsons' house)
-King of the Hill (Homer clims a tall mountain to impress Bart)
-Natural Born Kissers (Marge and Homer have sex in dangerous places)
-Bart, the Mother (Bart takes care of bird eggs)
-Homer to the Max (a character on TV has the same name as Homer)
-Take My Wife Sleaze (Homer organizes a biker gang)
-Hungry Hungry Homer (Homer fasts to keep the baseball team in Springfield)
-Children of a Lesser Clod (Homer organizes a daycare center)

All of these episodes sounded ridiculous or lame before I actually saw them. Just read the descriptions. But each time I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe it'll happen again!! ;)

[DotheBartman]

The episode I think could be the biggest blunder would be Large Marge, it sound even more lowbrow then this one. That said, like a few other people here have mentioned, the ads tend to show the worst parts, and since I found the snorting thing moderately funny (if a little stupid and sick), I'm not going to pass judgement on this one just yet. Who knows? Maybe it will actually be fairly touching despite its slapstick humor.

[Bart Skateboarder]

If you didn't already know, it is very easy to amuse me when it comes to The Simpsons (which is good for me because I enjoy every episode!). This episode doesn't sound entirly bad. I mean...it cant be worse than The Tick! I guess we will have to wait until Sunday to see how I and many other people like it. As always looking forward to watching new episodes!

Viva La Jaws Wide Shut!!

[Mike Scully]

Ah, I miss those days before the Internet when I didn't know anything about an upcoming episode till the day it aired. :(

[Homer Simps0n]

I dont think that the upcoming episode will be that bad. I enjoy watching any new episode. There is always going to be AT LEAST one little joke that will make you laugh. Its still better than all that other crap which is on tv.

[Tomacco]

Spolier:
I hear the episode is written by Matt Selman, and will include an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon.
Perhaps this episode won't be as horribly awful as I think it will be.

[cyben5150]

oooh, an i&s cartoon will make it at least worth sitting through.

[Bart Skateboarder]

All we can do is pray for the best.
:: praying ::

[Tirefire]

I'm gettin' ready to watch it here in just a few minutes, man I can't believe I have it this early.

[Tirefire]

I won't post a review of the episode and ruin it for everyone, just say I laughed a lot.

[Centaur]

Good ep. There's not much more to say. They even poke fun at crusty alt.tv.simpsons-type viewers with the underlying message which is pretty easy to spot. "Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it."

Don't judge it based on the first gag which goes on too long. Watch the whole thing. If you don't have a stick up your ass, you should enjoy yourself.

[Tomacco]

Uh-oh. Seems the first gag must be painful to watch. This episode will probably suck.

[Tirefire]

Yep, it's is certainly the most liberal episode of the Simpsons I have ever seen.

[Tirefire]

Make sure and listen to the voices from the people in the closet...
That was interesting...

[PrinceBejeeta]

Well I kinda liked this episode it was much better then I thought it would be. I'll give it a 4/5.


Spolier:
There is a popeye thing near the end which had me laughing for a long time but I didn't really like the Itchy and Scratchy cartoon.

edit: I watched it again and it now seems better then the first time I would say it's been one of the best in season 13 so far.

[Tomacco]

Boring? Liberal? What the hell? Heheh. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.

One thing: Please tell me that there's at least no zaniness or crazy shit after Homer gets the wires off. I had this feeling that Homer was gonna go crazy or something at some point, and the ending would suck, and this would be like a season 11 episode.

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Oh good! An I&S cartoon, its been so long! I'm gonna watch it tonite, and hopefully it won't be another "Simpsons Safari". I'm pretty suprised FOX didn't announce any guest stars in this ep. Maybe there won't be any...

[Bart Skateboarder]

I guess this has gradually turned into where people review this episode. I still need to wait 8 more hours for this episode!! ahhhh! :mad:

[Rich]

Sigh...wasn't one of the top rules to NOT judge an episode by it's description? Seems that about 90% of everyone that's posted in this thread is breaking that rule. I'm not predicting it will suck or be great...because all I've seen is one preview for it, about 30 seconds. That's sure not enough for me to call it a "blunder" yet, but it seems that way for alot of you.

Just watch it first before you bitch and moan about it.

[Ilia]

If you actually read the description, and don't refer to the commercials, you'll see that the episode is supposed to be about family harmony, which is supposed to be pretty sweet. I can live with the first act's Homer breaking his jaw, but the two acts after should be about Homer spending time with members of the family. Then again, they could just give the description part 5 seconds out of the entire episode, giving crude humour the way, so we'll just have to sit and wait.

[Handsome Pete]

Hopefully, this episode will be good. Looking forward to it, but if it's bad...well, let's hope it's not.

[Tirefire]

Originally posted by Tomacco
One thing: Please tell me that there's at least no zaniness or crazy shit after Homer gets the wires off. I had this feeling that Homer was gonna go crazy or something at some point, and the ending would suck, and this would be like a season 11 episode.

After the wires? Why funny you would mention that cause there is, but not with Homer going crazy...

[Tirefire]

If I had to say so right now, I would say that this is an episode that people are thinking might not be good, but in fact, is quite good. Right now it has made number 2 on my Season 13 list behind Sweets and Sour Marge... these episodes are finally gettin real good...

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Only 4 mour hours...

[Mr. Plow]

Well, people arent always perfect. This might be an example. The itchy and scratchy cartoon sounds good since they havent played one is awhile to my reckon

[Tirefire]

I think people will like the family bonding stuff in this, its pretty funny, feels like old days.
According to the outside board this is post 10,000 in this section.

[Ilia]

What the hell is Justice League?

[Tomacco]

Okay, then I predict Marge goes crazy from Homer's now boring personality. If so, I'm worried.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally posted by Ilia
What the hell is Justice League?

A new group in this club

[Ilia]

That do....

[Finch 182]

i know there is already a forum for this but i like to see the polls.

[Cole]

I won't get to see it for 2 more hours, I'll tell ya what I think then.

[lisa_the_greek]

Omg, you stole joshman's topic! i'd sue!

[Cole]

Wow, four votes so far. Three for 5/5 and one for 4/5. Then again, I wonder how many of those "voters" actually saw the episode already. :p

[J.Re*]

Originally posted by Ilia
That do....
Prevent Justice, I'm guessing

[mr. broom]

There's already a topic about this, and the moderators have said time and again that there should only be one topic for each new episode. Time this one was closed.

[Matty]

I think this episode was great!

Good thing that we see Itchy and Scratchy first time in more then 2 years, they kinda found a solution for their Duffman character screw up (having 2 different names in episodes) and the Popeye thing was weird, but it had me ROFL, just like the couch gag.

Only thing I didn't like was most of Marge in the 3rd act.

8,5/10

[Tirefire]

I saw it and rated it 5/5.
Like one of the people above me said, it had a slightly weak ending.

[Tirefire]

It just came on here, football ran a good bit over...
While ya'll are watching I'll post my favorite parts.

The two people who are in the closet:
Kent Brockman and Patty.
"Litter is my most treacherous foe, I would like to eat his children."
That was prob my fave quote ever from Tatum.
Suicide Machine.
Snorting Meat.
Homer writes Yes twice.
Maggie jumps after the pacifier.
Homer laughs about Mrs. Doodie in his mind.
Grandpa Simpson: "Long story short is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling."
Moe: Orgasmville
The Ostrich Video: Definately my fave part of the episode.
Homer: "Professor Van Doren, so good to see you."
Then he walks in.
Stop sign pushes bus back up.

Main problems:
Popeye part was not quite as good
as I expected, but decent.
What the hell are they gonna do about their car?

[bartimus prime]

Most of this episode was pretty boring, although there were some fairly funny parts, the Popeye secene was hilarious. We got another Duffman appearance. The Itchy & Scratchy Cartoon could've been better.
I knew that Smithers was gay, but Patty or Selma, I can't tell them apart, is?

My grade: C+

[IcE]

Did someone say the worst episode ever? I haven't seen the parent rap...so I'm not sure, but this episode just plain SUCKED. A half laugh is what it gave me, the whole episode, a HALF laugh (from the wet bed joke). The episode was completely pointless: why did he start listening all of a sudden, and why couldn't he be crazy with his jaw wired shut. The numerous sexual jokes just brought the episode quality down even more...Worst Episode that I have ever seen... If I had to give it a grade it would be an F-, if I had to give it a score out of 5, it would be 0. If I wasn't such a big Simpsons fan, I might consider not watching the show anymore.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

But I'll be there 'til the end... :D

(But that's just my opinion, I probably expect more, now that I watch great comedies every week like 70s show and Scrubs)

[lisa_the_greek]

an episode thought to severely suck turns out to be a pretty good episode. Patty's gay! But I thought she once loved Skinner....

ANYway... this episode had too many good parts to count. The entire movie theater/ Mot Hanks stuff was hilarious, and I thought the Homer/Maggie scenes were the funniest part of the episode. Four Square is fun.

The third act was kind of weak, but all together a good episode.

4.5/5

[J.Re*]

I loved the episode it was so funny and had so many parodies and satirical moments, the gay pride parade went on a little longer than it should have and so did the movie part, but they made up for it with how funny those parts were. The plot sorta went wrong with the talk show but it provided some funny moments.
4.5/5
Also, why did a post game show run so far over time? Its a damn post game show!

[Simpsonian]

In the Philadelphia area the episode doesn't air until 11, after the 10:00 news, because of the Eagles game.

[mr. broom]

I liked this episode. It was actually pretty funny in parts. Homer was a nice guy for an episode and not a screaming moron. I laughed out loud when Maggie watched the gay dog parade, looked at her bottle, shrugged, and chucked it. That was gold.
It appears that Patty or Selma (I'm guessing Patty, though there's no way to know since their voices are identical) and Santa's Little Helper (unless he's too stupid to know the difference, which is possible) are gay, too. Heh.
The homage to Popeye was great, even if it bordered on overdone. The parts with the donkey were appropriately silly. Three stars.

[Tomacco]

I don't see how people can give this a 5/5. I'm generous with reviews, and I can't give it above 2.5/5 . This episode reeked of Scully. First of all, they made Santa's Little Helper gay, as well as Patty (or Selma, but probably Patty, along with Smithers in the closet). Secondly, this episode was way too low-brow and dirty for a Simpsons episode. The mummy getting a boner shocked and disturbed me that it was actually in a Simpsons episode. Then on Afternoon Yak, they kept talkin bout wangs, and Homer was horny at the party, Moe and orgasm town, Homer getting sexually stimulated from the ridiculous suicide machine, etc etc...just too dirty for Simpsons. Third, Marge going nuts was too crazy and stupid for me. Fourth, the whole plot was stupid, and everything in act 1 had NOTHING to do with the rest of the episode. Fifth, Bart should be glad about being a class clown, but he was remorseful about it for some reason. Fifth, the second act was too boring. With all this put together, the episode gets a 1/5. What boosts it up to 2.5 is the decent jokes, Popeye parody, and use of characters such as Tatum, and Duffman. Also, did you notice the crayon was still in Homer's brain? heh. Overall, I'm really disappointed, and this makes me worry about Jean.

[Mr. Plow]

I actually liked it 4/5. The marge worrying thing was expected and i was ok with it. Scully wasnt that bad Tomacco he just didnt do shit with the other seasons. If the Simpsons didnt add sex to the show, i dont know if it would last any longer. Tv today is filled with sex and thats what it needs to survive because it gets attention.

And for those who have been asking, were just another group in this club ala diaper dandys, junior campers, pin pals, moderators etc. you get the deal.

As for the poll, I'll be back....

[JDL]

It's an okay episode, I guess...
But the giant kitkat batton stuff just baffles me - i mean what the heck? If it was a joke, I didn't get it.

[Kalbelgarion]

Woo-Hoo!

This is the best episode of season 13 thus far! So many laugh-out-loud moments.

Way to go, Al Jean!

Let's see...Homer reforming to a non-Jerk ass, an I&S cartoon, more of Grandpa's ramblings, Homer bonding with the family, a great spoof of Popeye, correct characterization...yep, this episode had it all. Great throw-back to season's past.

A very, very solid 5/5. Best episode in a long, long while (Since "Trilogy of Error", or perhaps even "Behind the Laughter").

*jumps to floor and thrashes wildly*

All hail Al Jean, the Holy One!

[lisa_the_greek]

Tomacco, you didn't like the Soccer Mummy thing? That is SUCH a movie they'd do. I loved it. Yeah, the boner thing was stupid, but it took maybe 2 seconds, does it *really* bring the episode down that much?

I'm kinda surprised, I thought you'd really like this one.

[Handsome Pete]

A bit weird, I'll admit that, but there were a good deal of laughs in this episode. My main problem with this episode was the gay people parade that they had. Like Tomacco said, even the possible indication of Santa's Little Helper being gay was wrong. There were some good gags in this episode in this episode however, which took my mind off of that. I'll give it at most 4/5.

[Mr. Plow]

It was a sick joke but i just laughed my ass off for like a minute. If i watch the episode again it wont be as funny probably.

[IcE]

Wow, that's amazing, you guys are giving this episode 4's and 5's, I can't believe it...Maybe it was just me today? :( Fighting with an ostrich? More stuff about gays? A "funny" women's talk show? Popeye was ok...but c'mon!

[J.Re*]

What was the name of the talk show?


P.S. We broke the most users record!!! Yippee :rolleyes

[Kalbelgarion]

Originally posted by Handsome Pete
Like Tomacco said, even the possible indication of Santa's Little Helper being gay was wrong.

Oh! I took it to mean that he was after the female dogs in the gay rights parade (There were some marching behind the banner...methinks) They've already proven that he is *not* gay (heck, he fathered 25 puppies).

And the fighting with the ostrich was just showing how stupid and pointless Homer has been in the previous few seasons. That was before he "reformed" with some help from Al Jean at al...or at least that's what I picked up out of it.

[Tomacco]

The talk show parodied the View. It was called Afternoon Yak, also seen briefly in "Bye Bye Nerdy".

I'm surprised about all these 4's and 5's. When it finished, I was really expecting to come here seeing 1's and 2's. Kind of makes me wonder why the Scully era got bashed so much, cuz this might as well have been a Scully episode.

[or_smth]

I don't know about this episode...
The only parts I laughed at were the parts that weren't really normal Simpsons humour ala The movie scenes (which I thought were great never-the-less) and the long pop-eye parody.

Everyone is right about the sexual humour in there, it was just strange. The pacing was kind of wierd too, it went from endless gags to slow, then to endless gags again. All the gags were reused as well, like the announcer repeating everything he says twice and the "So you're life is ruined" ("So you're going to die").

I went for the 2/5, though the I&S was great.

The one outstanding question was/is A: What the hell was the gay pride parade doing there in relation to the rest of the episode, and B: Why do the writers seem to think gay people are so funny. Smithers is gay, he likes men, get over it.

[Mr. Plow]

The episode wasnt that bad it had some good laughs. it was also great to see another itchy and scratchy episode. Tomacco you should watch this episode again

[Handsome Pete]

Originally posted by Kalbelgarion


Oh! I took it to mean that he was after the female dogs in the gay rights parade (There were some marching behind the banner...methinks) They've already proven that he is *not* gay (heck, he fathered 25 puppies).

Yeah, let's hope it was meant that way.

[lisa_the_greek]

Originally posted by Tomacco

I'm surprised about all these 4's and 5's. When it finished, I was really expecting to come here seeing 1's and 2's. Kind of makes me wonder why the Scully era got bashed so much, cuz this might as well have been a Scully episode.

I really disagree with this. This episode really did rock. I mean, I want Al Jean to make a bad episode, so I can show I'm not biased, but this week's had so many good gags. The parody of Starr- DOWNTOWN- was hilarious. What about Lisa's imitation of Ralph? The Gay Parade had some good parts- "You do this every year- we ARE used to it"

[punk as duck]

I thought this episode was terrible. I did not laugh one time. I honestly came on here thinking I'd see huge flames of this episode and tons of 2 or 1's and I'm very surprised that some people liked it, maybe it'll hit me when I watch it again...but thats not something I look forward to right now. Suicide machine? Mummy getting a boner? Homer saying "I'm Horny?" The footage of him fighting the osterich? I'd give this episode a 1/5 and even that is being generous. :(

[The Sweetling]

Firstly, although I may still be new here, there are three pages of posts about the commercial. That's lame. Maybe you should open a new forum that's just about the commercials.

Now that's off my chest, here's a quick review.

Doubtlessly I liked this episode. It was entertaining, I laughed at some jokes and it killed another half-hour of my life.

For those of you who have disliked the change of Homer from years past into what some call "Meta-Homer" (you know the screaming baboon who runs around getting injured, screaming and thinking only of himself), it appears he's slowly coming back to the considerate family man. He actually cared about other peoples' feelings and listned to them, oftentimes with hilarious consequences (Homer to himself, "The boy has feelings!"). Although I actually like Homer the Idiot, it's a nice change of pace once in awhile for him to act a little bit like a human being.

But I believe that it may have came with a price tag in this episode. There were more sex jokes in this episode than I would see in an average episode of friends. I'm not complaining however, some of them were funny. It started off with the Soccer Mummy's boner and went on from there, to the tune of "horny" and "orgasm". So, although there was a lighter family atmosphere, it was balanced against sex jokes and not enough screaming.

All in all a solid episode. I'll say...8/10.

[Kalbelgarion]

How could this have been a Scully episode? It reminds me of "Brawl in the Family", with the family love and reforming of Homer and the family. The first act was the old Homer, the second act was Homer changing, and the third act was a solution to how the Simpsons will function from now on (Much like the midseasons, with Marge mellowing out the not-quite-crazy Homer).

I just shurgged off the sexual jokes as throwbacks to keep the "new" Simpson fans happy. *shrug*

[Le Jake]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I don't see how people can give this a 5/5. I'm generous with reviews, and I can't give it above 2.5/5 .

While not a Five, I'd give it a four, mainly becasue of the oddball Popeye scenes..


This episode reeked of Scully. First of all, they made Santa's Little Helper gay, as well as Patty (or Selma, but probably Patty, along with Smithers in the closet).

SLH wasn't quite 'gay'. Some dogs just get (non sexually) excited when another dog is around.


Secondly, this episode was way too low-brow and dirty for a Simpsons episode. The mummy getting a boner shocked and disturbed me that it was actually in a Simpsons episode.

It wasn't in the 'main character stream.' It was non-canon like an I and S episode, so it was making fun of boner jokes with boner jokes.


Then on Afternoon Yak, they kept talkin bout wangs, and Homer was horny at the party, Moe and orgasm town, Homer getting sexually stimulated from the ridiculous suicide machine, etc etc...just too dirty for Simpsons.

The Suicide machine was retarded, but the afternoon Yak was pretty much like something you'd see on a "Go Girl", daytime women's program.


Third, Marge going nuts was too crazy and stupid for me. Fourth, the whole plot was stupid, and everything in act 1 had NOTHING to do with the rest of the episode. Fifth, Bart should be glad about being a class clown, but he was remorseful about it for some reason. Fifth, the second act was too boring.

You're right about the odd Bart behaviour, but I actually enjoyed the second act and I agree with Marge going nuts for no real reason was the only real downer of the episode (basically the last five minutes).


With all this put together, the episode gets a 1/5. What boosts it up to 2.5 is the decent jokes, Popeye parody, and use of characters such as Tatum, and Duffman. Also, did you notice the crayon was still in Homer's brain? heh. Overall, I'm really disappointed, and this makes me worry about Jean. [/B]

Well, I'm not worried about Mr. Jean as so much the menatilty of the show is how Homer MUST be freaking out acting crazy in order to be entertaining.

Grade: B (8/10)


Jake

[Wang]

Forget about al jean. We should only talk about the episode not the people that made it. it was half/half. Half lol half stupid. In the end lol over comes stupidity 4/5

[IcE]

wow, 19 ppl browsing this forum!! Record?

[lisa_the_greek]

Please be objective people... Before Tomacco's post, everyone loved it. Now everyone hates it :rolleyes

[Kalbelgarion]

Hey! I stick by my wild thrashings! This was a good ol' Simpsons Episode, with tons of "old-type" Simpsons humor. Like I said, ignoring the three sex-type jokes, this was a fablous and fantastic Simpsons show. :)

[or_smth]

"Please be objective people... Before Tomacco's post, everyone loved it. Now everyone hates it "

What is wrong with that, he just reminded us of the stupid parts. That is pretty much the whole idea with forums and the internet, to share and hopefully influence opinions.

[Mr. Plow]

He wasnt trying to say he was horney he was trying to say he was hungry. It wasnt that funny. Afternoon Yak was stupid funny with the downtown thing but i liked it with milhouse in the end great stuff. I liked it and no one can change my mine or change my thoughts on it

[volcom]

I give it a 3/5 because the plot was terrible. The characthers are out of line(pretty much in every episode there out of line) But some of the sex jokes got me giggling and other old school basic simpsons humor like the popeye thing

[IcE]

He was trying to say he was horny, there were more than 3 sex jokes...and I think Tomacco, Jessica, and everyone who said this episode sucked is right! I can't believe everyone who said this is like the Simpsons of old, that's way off...I don't remember a horrible ep before season 11...anyone wanna refresh my memory?

[Bart Skateboarder]

I thought this episode was great. Don't how some of ya'll don't like it. It wasn't a stupid story, and it had funny jokes! It was a great episode in my opinion 4.5/5!

[Jessica Lovejoy]

ARGH!!! I accidently deleted my post while trying to edit it - thankfully I had it saved to the clipboard so here it is again...

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I'm sorry guys, but this episode really sucked. That whole "Soccer Mommy" boner thing was really REALLY and out of line and just plain stupid, and then to make matters worse, in the next act they have Homer say he's horny! I felt like banging my head against the wall after that; these lame sex jokes really need to stop because they AREN'T funny, they're just immature and totally uncalled for. Even my 14 year old brother thought these so-called "gags" were retarded and normally he laughs at anything that's obnoxious like that, hmm what's that telling you? The only thing that I thought was remotely laughable was the whole parody of "The View"; I'm guilty of watching that talkshow myself and I thought the gags were right on the line, especially Barbara Walters' apparent lisping problem and the fact that Lisa Ling says the weirdest things... but anyway, other than that I didn't like much about this one. Yuck. Overall, it's a D+, or a 2/5, and I think that's being VERY generous. I hope this is as bad as season 13 will get... *looks hopeful*


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Oh, and for those of you who seem to think that I base my opinions on what other people think then you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't like much about the episode WHILE I was watching it on TV, and after reading everybody else's "good" opinions on this board, I STILL don't like the episode. This is coming from a girl who actually LIKED "The Blunder Years" and who had no problems with season 10 and most of season 12 - how's that for not following the crowd, hmm? We're all entitled to our own opinions and just because a bunch of people didn't like the episode doesn't mean that we're copying the original person who stated a negative opinion, mmmkay? That's the silliest reason ever to start a fight. Be nice, guys.

[Smilin'JoeFission]

I was astonished at the outcome of this episode. The preveiws made it look dumb, the plot made it sound stupid, but just watching this episode- wow.

Granted,some of the humour seemed so far from the Simpsons we know and love, but other parts were excellent. The return of "Afternoon Yak" was well done, "Soccer Mummy" was a great parody of so many stupid movies these days(up until the boner line which was just plain wrong and immature), Maggie's reaction to the gay dogs, Bart talking about being class clown, Milhouse and his mom on the show, Lisa's impersonation of Ralph, Marge in the derby, Bart and Milhouse planning to recreate 'Jackass', Lovejoy's pec implants on Thursday, "Quiet please" I&S opening, awesome.

Homer and the donkey was the ticket for me, Popeye tribute all the way. Some people may argue that this was stupid, too cartoonish, but, it's a CARTOON! If it was "Family Guy" noone would have complained.

However, these are just the high points of the episode. Pretty much everything else sucked. All the dumb sex jokes- absolutely unnecessary.

Overall grade- B+.

[Kalbelgarion]

As I recall...

-The suicide machine
-The soccer mummy's boner
-Moe's Orgasmville
and maybe
-Homer saying "I'm horny"/"I'm hungry"

That's 3 1/2 sex jokes. But, as you also remember, this episode featured NO JERK-ASS HOMER after he reformed. :) (Just one slight instance of inciting the riot in the movie house)

[Tomacco]

Here's my full review as posted on my site. It's more precise:

I don't really know where to start. I guess I'll start with the negatives, and then explain what was decent about it. First of all, they made Santa's Little Helper gay (yes, he was looking at male dogs), as well as Patty (or Selma, but probably Patty, along with Smithers in the closet). I didn't understand why there was a salute to brunch in the parade either, by the way. Secondly, this episode was way too low-brow and dirty for a Simpsons episode. The mummy getting a boner shocked me that it was actually in a Simpsons episode. I go to South Park for that type of humor. Then on Afternoon Yak, they kept talking about wangs, and Homer was horny at the party, Moe and orgasm town, Homer getting sexually stimulated from the ridiculous suicide machine, etc etc...just too dirty for Simpsons. It's not the dirt itself really that bugged me (lord knows I see my share of dirty movies and tv shows), but it's too out of place for Simpsons. Third, Marge going nuts was too crazy, stupid, and just odd for me. Fourth, the whole plot was really simple and half-brained, and everything in act 1 had absolutely NOTHING to do with the rest of the episode. Although it wasn't as blatantly noted, it was just as out of place as the first act of "Tennis the Menace". I think they also could have thought up a better way to break Homer's jaw. Fifth, Bart should be glad about being a class clown, but he was remorseful about it for some reason, Homer becoming interested in everyones' lives was too abrupt and unexplained, they kind of ruined Duffman's character a bit by saying he's numerous actors, the suicide machine was stupid, etc etc. Fifth, the second act was too boring and short on laughs. The balance of story and laughs was too off. Overall, this episode felt a little too wacky and weird, like a Scully episode. (shudder)
What saved this episode from a 1/5 was that there were some good laughs in the episode. The Lesbians of the Carribean float was funny, the Otm Shank scramble was great, the movie titles as usual were funny, the Itchy and Scratchy trailer was good, and Tatum's "eat their children" line was great, parodying Tyson. Those were the act 1 laughs. The second act was short of laughs. I liked how you could see the crayon in Homer's brain in the x-ray again, and how Homer erased YES and wrote it again. The Duffman scene was funny, as his scenes always are, and Grampa's story was a little funny I guess. That kind of sums up the second act. The best part of the third act was the Popeye parody, which was a little overdone, but very good. Homer and Bart rehearsing their play was a good chuckle, and there were a few funny lines in the Afternoon Yak scene (the View parody). Otto's pushing the bus back up with his stop sign was a decent visual gag. In the end, that's all the funny stuff I can really remember.
It's funny, because often times I'm the one giving episodes good reviews while others bash them, but this time, a lot of people are raving about this episode, while I'm dubbing it second-worst episode of the season. Well, I was never expecting anything from this episode from the start, but I better not be let down with "Half-Decent Proposal" and "The Bart Wants What it Wants". Plus, I honestly expect better writing from Matt Selman, who did "Trilogy of Error" and "Lisa the Treehugger".

Rating: 2.5 /5

[Kalbelgarion]

M'eh, it's your opinion. :)

Did anyone else notice the Hot Wheels gag at the start of the Durby? The cars were diving in a "figure 8", much like the new Hot Wheels sets. :LOL:

[Mr. Plow]

Tomacco is right(in his opinion)i just think he's letting scully stupidity overcome humor to much since its like my friend wang said, its almost half stupid half funny. I laughed too much to think about the negative in this story

[blockyourfather]

I didn't like it. Homer as a competent parent was horribly done. The movie scene was wasted, saved only by the reappearance of Itchy and Scratchy. The gay bashing started off good, but I feel that it was overused. The ending was constructed badly too. I give it a C-

[Cole]

Well, Tomacco is entitled to his opinion, personally I really liked it. 4/5

[Zjraus]

I didn't really like it, there was no part that genuinely made me laugh. Also, I think Marge dwelled on the fact that life was boring for too long.

And no chalkboard scene!

[skittlebrau]

I thought the episode was great. Some things just didn't make me laugh. Homer snorting the steak, Homer saying "I'm horny.", the "Soccer Mummy" preview, and the gay pride parade. The Popeye parody was great, ostrich burgers, and an "Itchy and Scratchy" cartoon after all this time. Overall I would have given this episode a 2/5 just by the commercials. But after seeing the episode, I give it a 4/5. Not a classic, but a really good episode overall. :)

[Bart Skateboarder]

I was lucky I even got to see the episode! It started 15 minutes late becuase of the delayed football game! Good thing I didn't miss it! 4.5/5!

-My 300th Post!

[skittlebrau]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bart Skateboarder
[B]I was lucky I even got to see the episode! It started 15 minutes late becuase of the delayed football game! Good thing I didn't miss it! 4.5/5!

Same here. I had to sit through 15 minutes of "KOTH" before I saw the episode.Arghhh! :mad:

[Kalbelgarion]

Wow...this is...odd. These reviews seem very polar. Either people loved it and thought that it was the divine hand of Al Jean that guided this episode, or they hated it and thought that Al Jean read a few too many pages from the "Book of Scully".

Funny, eh? :rolleyes

[skittlebrau]

Originally posted by Zjraus

And no chalkboard scene! [/B]

They could at least throw the chalkboard scene into the shortened intro if only FOX decided not to squeeze in more ads, (like they don't already!)

[IcE]

Finally, some people voted terrible, for a while it was just me and some other guy (2 votes), you guys are amazing, 4/5?! It's unfathomable for me!

[Kalbelgarion]

What's really unfathomable is how anyone could vote this wonderful Simpsons Classic a 1/5 or 2/5. :rolleyes

[sWeEtMiNtJeNnY]

I don't understand why people are debating whether or not the episode is realistic or not. I mean come on, its a cartoon. How realistic can you get?

I have to agree, it does seem as though the producers are running out of episode ideas. I hope this doesn't mean that the show will be coming to an end soon! :shocked:

[Tirefire]

It's quite amazing. The scores are very evenly distributed on this episode, with a tendency for the higher side. I never imagined in my wildest dreams there woudl actually be so many negatives, but at least some. Some people who liked similar episodes that I did in he past didn't like this one, while others who I disagreed with before suddenly did. If you guys can post negative reviews and everyone say its their entitled opinion then I'm gonna say that I can't believe anyone could give this a 2 or worse. So there. :) :) :)

[eric]

Hilarious-at-times first act bolstered by the appearances of Duffman, Itchy & Scratchy, and Tatum. Was hoping to see a reference to "The Homer They Fall" besides Homer's facial reactions to ramming into the statue's fist, but oh well.

Second act was both touching (Lisa, Bart) and entertaining (Maggie, Grampa), and it served its purpose in establishing Homer's 'caring' personality during the remainder of the episode. I can see how others may have found this act and the 3rd one boring, however.

I was surprised that Homer didn't immediately turn into a 'jerkass' during the 3rd act of the episode (I guess the description of the episode I read was a little off). Although the Marge scenes again served their purpose in establishing how she felt, there wasn't any laughter there. Hilarious Popeye parody at the end, but I personally felt that that dragged on for too long. Good episode, needed more consistent laughs though (and I can see how the many sexual jokes could've turned off some people... but I don't mind 'em). 4/5

LOL moment of the episode: The Ostrich burger scene. Hahahahah. The Soccer Mummy was a great bit as well.

[Tomacco]

I gave it a 2.5, Tirefire. is that fair? ;) Heheh.

Anyways, here's my episode ranking:

Sweets and Sour Marge: 4.5
She of Little Faith: 4
A Hunka Hunka Burns in Love: 4
Brawl in the Family: 4
THOH XII: 4
The Parent Rap: 3
Homer the Moe: 3
Jaws Wired Shut: 2.5
The Blunder Years: 2

[Kodos]

Homer definitly said "horny". I watched it with the subtitles on.
I don't think was the number of sex jokes in this episode that was what's bothering people. It that they were so crude and poorly done they stoped the show. It feels like the writers are just thowing them in there become they want the show to feel 'fresh'. It comes off like a bunch of jr high kids telling sick jokes to each other in order to sound more mature.
I really think people here a looking for an Al Jean style where there isn't one. I've watched the show with people who don't know (or care) about the behide the show going ons, and they don't notice an diffence. So far all the Jean episode have been very different from each other. I think the decline in quality is just someing that happens to all shows, even great ones like Seinfeld and MASH.
That said there were some good joke in this episode. I liked the closet joke, the Dredrick Tatum cameo, Homer roiting because of the preveiws, 'So You've Ruined Yor Life", the evil donkey, Otto's "Skull Bus", others. The pacing of the show was good (didn't make me want to give it Ritlin like "Brawl in the Family") and the plot seemed to keep on track. I would like them to go back to the A plot/B plot format, though. Seems like they've been getting away from that lately.
Lastly, Did any one else think they were going to show who the driver of the black monster truck at the derby was? It seems think a lost moment. I would have like for some one like Mother Skinner to have steped out at the end.

[Tirefire]

It's like I said in my post above, some people liked ones I liked, while they didn't like others. Like you and I both really liked Sweets and Sour, but disagreed on this one. 2.5 is the minimum.

[skittlebrau]

Seems to me that more people liked it or thought it was OK then hate it. I thought it was inbetween OK and liked it. Shame on you for not liking it. I bet when it starts to run in syndication and you see it again, You'll like it. That's what happens to me. I'll record all new episodes and think, "Man that sucked!" But when I see it again on tape or syndication I think, "Meh. It wasn't as bad as I thought." This is The Simpsons, people! Would we not have this board if we didn't love them?

[skittlebrau]

Originally posted by Kodos

Lastly, Did any one else think they were going to show who the driver of the black monster truck at the derby was? It seems think a lost moment. I would have like for some one like Mother Skinner to have steped out at the end. [/B]

I was thinking the same thing. Just who the hell was that in the black monster truck? A question that will never be revealed.

[Tirefire]

I almost like every Simpsons episode a bit more the 2nd time.
Definately this was such a case. There are a few exceptions though...

[DotheBartman]

Okay, first off, I had first predicted before this episode aired that one of two things would happen to this episode. The first possibility would be that we would see a real transformation in Homer, and perhaps this episode would truly mark a detraction from his season 10-12 behavior. The other possibility was that the episode would turn into a wacky, slapstick episode and be pretty lowbrow. As it turns out, it was a little of both.

This episode started off pretty badly. The gay pride sequence went on for too long, and bordered on truly offensive rather than satirical, though there were luckily a couple good jokes (Lisa's line, Maggie's reaction to the dogs, plus there was a nice reference to the gay steel mill). The movie theater scene was a little better, with the movie titles, the Itchy and Scratchy short (not the best, but funny), and the Soccer Mummy sequence that was a nice parody, though the boner joke was sort of strange. The rest of the act could have been alot better. The giant kit-kat peices thing was just strange, and after the mummy thing there weren't any really funny moments until Drederick Tatum showed up.

The second act picked up a little. The thing with the steak was sick, put sort of funny. We also got a fourth Duffman appearance, which might have ruined him, but at least he was pretty funny. The brochure was a re-used joke, but I enjoyed Homer's attempts to bond with his family, particularly when he kept writing "yes". I found that they were actually a little touching, and were funny at the same time. Grandpa could have been funnier, but we did get a sorta-funny second Maggie joke (all the Al Jean episodes have had Maggie jokes!) and Homer's "Wow, the boy has feelings!" was pretty funny also. Later on we get that awful "horny" joke, and things slow again for a while during that time, ending a so-so, but better, second act.

The third act wasn't too great, but had its moments, and I enjoyed seeing Homer act a little calmer for once. The joke about Marge's freckle was pretty funny, and the demolition derby had a few moments before Homer and the kids showed up. Once they did come, the scene got to be MUCH funnier, with a Popeye parody that had me laughing out loud throughout. The ending was also fairly normal, and I had no complaints with it.

Overall, this one had far too many sex jokes and could have been a lot funnier, but in my mind this episode may have been more of a transitional episode than anything else. The ending seemed to suggest to me that the writers plan on keeping some of Homer's wackiness (so he'll still be funny), but also plan on calming him down a bit and making him less of a jerkass, so that, well, he can be funnier. We'll have to wait and see on that.

Grade: C+

On a side not, can anyone explain the "peck implants" joke to me? I actually didn't get that!

[Kalbelgarion]

But the "Horny" joke was funny, because no one (on the show) heard what Homer said, and Marge thought it was something wonderful and thoughtful, like the trend Homer was setting.

Also, the CC has been wrong before. He wrote "I'm hungry" on the chalkboard beforehand, so it could have been "hungry". But, IMHO, either is funny.

I agree, the other sex jokes shouldn't have been there, but too many people are dwelling on a few small, 2 second clips rather than the other outragously funny parts of the episode (like, the whole 2nd act. :))

[Dennis]

I thought it was great! the only parts i didnt like were when Homer and Marge are dancing and Homer grumbles "Im horny", its a very inappropriate line.

[Jessica Lovejoy]

I just realized that I completely forgot to mention Milhouse and Bart's "Jackass" reference as being one of the moments that I actually thought was pretty funny. But overall I still didn't really like it.. *shrugs*

Hmm, I just noticed that the poll results are VERY odd indeed: 13 votes for 1/5 and 12 votes for 4/5? Goodness...

Now that that's been said, everyone can resume telling me how wrong my review was ;)

[eric]

I'm simply waiting patiently for the "Rowdy Review." He's online now... it's coming soon!

[Rowdy]

This was a decent episode. It wasn't great, but it wasn't too bad either. Highlights were Homer rewriting the word "Yes" and the EXTREMELY funny bit involving the donkey (or was it a mule?). Lowlights included most of the gay pride parade and the worst joke in history, the mummy one.......

Grade: C, 3/5

First Nine Season 12 Episodes: 28/45
First Nine Season 13 Episodes: 31/45

[Kalbelgarion]

Originally posted by Rowdy
Lowlights included most of the gay pride parade and the worst joke in history, the mummy one.......

Erm, you're refering to the last joke of the Mummy preview, right? Because I don't think that anyone wouldn't find the rest of that movie preview funny. :p

To each his/her own, I say. If some of you want to be weirdos and rate this episode a 1 or 2, be my guest. :rolleyes

[Mike Scully]

I actually had high hopes for the episode. Al Jean's other episodes have been decent, this one was written by Matt Selman (who wrote Natural Born Kissers and Trilogy of Error), and I thought it would be a lot like HOMR but deeper.

The humor was pretty piss-poor throughout. Many sex jokes (the soccer mummy, "I'm horny"...), jerkass Homer moments (leading a revolt in the cinema, trying to commit suicide), gimmicky jokes (Lisa imitating Ralph, Patty revealing she's gay), ripoffs (parodying The View, already done in SNL), simple stereotypical humor (the whole Gay Rights parade), recycled humor (Duffman's scene is almost exactly like in Homer vs NYC). poorly done slapstick (Homer gets Maggie caught on his jaw, Homer punching the ostrich), wacky sight gags (Homer snorting up the steak). As for the plot, I just didn't find myself caring what happened. Homer deciding to be nice, Marge joining the demolition derby, these plot elements just came out of nowhere. By the third act, I was barely even paying attention, deciding I'd have more fun working on my physics problem set instead.

grade: D-

[irv]

Jonah, your opinion is complete bullshit. It's obvious from the get-go that you were expecting, no, HOPING that you wouldn't enjoy this episode. It's quite obvious from your earlier posts in this thread before the episode even aired. Obviously, your review of the episode would reflect the opinion that you already made before even watching it. Why you would decide not to enjoy an episode before its airing is beyond me. That kind of shit belongs on the newsgroup, not here.

As for what I though, I agree with everything Eric said. The first act was quite hilarious. The second act was touching and funny. The third act, while zany, was a great popeye parody and was hilarious. I laughed very hard at several times during this episode. I like how a bunch of townspeople were once again featured. I think this is obviously Al Jean's doing. I mean, the writers have a ton of awesome, awesome characters that were basically neglected in the past few seasons. 4/5. Loses points because third act was weird, but still very funny.

[Tomacco]

Ryan, I dont know what you're talking about. I HATE hating episodes! I was really hoping I'd end up being surprised and end up liking it. But that didn't happen! I thought the episode was subpar. The end. Quit trying to pick fights.

[Bart Skateboarder]

I have to complain! How can anyone find this episode bad? It was great! Laughs every second. A little syupid at times, but that is what makes The Simpsons who they are. They are being stupid for your amusement.

[Tomacco]

For some reason, this week more than ever, there's a lot of tension between us all because of our differing reviews. We should all really calm down a bit, and stop questioning and bashing everyone's reviews.

Also, how did so many 1/5 reviews in the poll pile up like that? That's pretty weird.

[DotheBartman]

Ryan, as Tomacco said, stop picking fights. He, like many others, made his prediction about the episode, and it turned out, for him at least, to be right. This happens sometimes, and sometimes an episode may surprise you instead. In this case, it didn't happen for Tomacco. Grow up and start stating your opinion without calling other peoples' opinons "bullshit". That's the kind of crap that helped get Barneybeergumble banned.

[Nugan]

After the credits rolled I felt confused, and reading these reviews hasn't helped the matter any.

The first act was terrible and Scully-ish. From the gay pride parade to the "mummy joke". Its only redeeming factors were the I&S cartoon and the rest of the mummy preview (especally the self-esteem line).

The second act was, however, great. I loved all of the scenes with Homer bonding with ther family members. The only low-point point of this act has been mentioned by everyone else, so I won't bother to repeat it.

The third act was iffy. I enjoyed the fact that Homer didn't return to his old Scully-era self and the Pop-eye parody (although it was too long). I didn't like Marge's behavior and the aditional "sex jokes".

Overall I give it a 3/5, not because it was average throughout, but because it repeately pleased and repulsed me.

[Tomacco]

Some of you DABF05-lovers will appreciate this:

Note: I originally gave this 2.5, but after a second viewing, I was able to concentrate more on everything, and I thought it flowed better and remembered a few more jokes. Also, Homer wasn't as annoying as he usually is, which is a plus. Lastly, Homer mentioned the Demolition Derby during the Afternoon Yak scene, which I didn't realize before, and I thought it made the episode better, because I now realize that whole thing didn't come out of nowhere after all. Also, I realized that Bart yelled out to the salesman for beer, and he, without hesitation, tossed it to him - a minor. Hehe. My new review: 3/5

Second viewings do help sometimes, and this is proof. Although, I still don't think its a great episode, just good. It now ranks above "Homer the Moe", "The Parent Rap" and "The Blunder Years" for me.

[Nugan]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Some of you DABF05-lovers will appreciate this:
Also, I realized that Bart yelled out to the salesman for beer, and he, without hesitation, tossed it to him - a minor.


Yeah, that was one of the episode's best momments. I can't believe I forgot to mention it...

[Datoupee]

Well, like I always say. I judge the episodes on if they were enjoyable to watch and like always it was. I really love this season. When I go back and watch the episodes they are the same as every other season. Great television entertainment. Some poeple make a huge deal over every little thing. I think many people type their reviews based on how they feel right after a first viewing. Watch the episode a couple times and it fits right in with the the rest of the episodes from all the seasons.

[InanimateCarbonRod]

Ugh.. another Stinker from Al Jean. I'm beginning to think that his episodes are worse than Scully's. Al is trying too hard to mix hints of "old school" Simpsons into these episodes, and failing miserably. In an attempt to keep the plot less fast paced, he simply stretches out the most pointless scenes rather than developing a decent plot. The jumpiness of the plot is still there, its just been covered up.
Scenes that were too long just to fill in the plot:
Gay Pride parade
The movie previews
Homer yelling about the movie not starting.
The ball scene
and finally, the idiotic Popeye scene. Note to writers: Stop trying to put hints of Family Guy into the Simpsons! Stuff like that IS funny in a show where the plot & characters don't matter like Family Guy, but its just awkward and disturbing on the Simpsons, a show thats supposed to be built around solid humor, great plotlines, and great characters.

Now, where was I? Oh yes, my next compaint: the sex jokes! I can't believe some of you can possibly laugh at a mummy getting a boner! (Oh wait, yes I can, most of you on here are in Jr. High) I actually thought Soccer Mummy was funny until they killed it with the boner joke. What is it with the Simpons and killing anything that has potential? I mean, here you've got a good parody of how stupid movies are today (Soccer Mummy was making fun of the movies with dogs playing basketball and stuff) but they stick in some stupid perverted joke. They should have ended it by having the mummys leg brake off when the soccer ball hits him or something. The sex jokes continued throughout the episode, I think there was close to about 10. Every week the show becomes more and more like South Park and Family Guy..

Another complaint: They really didn't use Homer not being able to talk for all its worth. It could have continued all the way to the end of the episode, but they had to overhaul the plot a 3rd time and slap on another abrupt, awkward ending. It was not as bad of an ending as Mike Scully's, but it wasn't much better.

A poor episode with only a few LOL moments, nothing memorable. Once again ruined by too much nonsense and stupid sh!t. Overall grade - 1/5.

PS, when are some of you going to wake up and realize that Al Jean SUCKS just as much if not worse than Scully???!!!!!!!!

[Tirefire]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I realized that Bart yelled out to the salesman for beer, and he, without hesitation, tossed it to him - a minor. Hehe. My new review: 3/5

I almost put that back into my first review with all the parts I like earlier, but wanted to see if someone would catch it, I didn't till the second time through. Good eye Tomacco.

[Janie Prower]

... dude, I saw that ep tonight.

Um, first of all, don't blame the writers for this. Al Jean, Mike Scully, who cares. We're reviewing the episode, not criticizing the writers.
Second, urm, the gay parade thing was funny, really. Smithers and Patty. ;p it's definetly Patty, remember her celibacy thing? so it ain't Selma.
The entire concept.. heh, 'twas funny, I guess. I kinda agree on the perverted jokes, they didn't ruin EVERYTHING but it reminded me of one of the season 12 stuff x.o not that great. I liked the silliness/quirkiness and clever, subtle jokes of season nine and such, like Homer's Phobia, remember? (the one with John Waters.)

I'm not completely going ALLL DOWN on season 13. 12 kinda sucked, but 13's still going so let's just have hopes for it, eh?

[DotheBartman]

Hmm, after a second viewing, (plus watching the Popeye sequence several more times and laughing my ass off each time), I gotta upgrade my review to a B- (yeah, I know that that should technically be the same as my earlier C+ rating, but I consider B- and C+ to be only similar in my reviews, with the rating leaning more toward the letter used then the other one its close too).

[morbot]

I didn't find the Popeye parody all that funny (although I did like when he gave the mule beer and it went right to sleep) but maybe its just because I really don't like Popeye at all...

A few of the cartoony things, like the snorting the steak, maggie doing the "look at what she's drinking and toss it over her shoulder" that is featured in cartoony shows... little things.

But I thought it was a pretty good episode. It was a little weak as to why Bart wanted the old Homer back, even when confronted by Lisa about it, he just said like "Meh, whatever" but at least Marge had good reason for it. Pretty good episode overall, I had a few laughs.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Fat Morbo
I didn't find the Popeye parody all that funny (although I did like when he gave the mule beer and it went right to sleep) but maybe its just because I really don't like Popeye at all...




I personally never liked Popeye that much either, but I enjoyed the parody partially because it made fun of the show's absurdity. I could see why you wouldn't appreciate the parody that much though.

[The Sweetling]

I just wanted to mention few things about the posts:

Uhhh, what's so offensive about a mummy getting a boner? Is he not entitled to get a boner and express himself...uhhh...erecterly? Granted, it's not typical of the Simpsons and I wouldn't expect to find it there, but it's not offensive for crying out loud. Unless you're watching it with your children or parents, which thankfully I wasn't as I'm somtimes apt to do. Then I woulda been a bit embarressed (damn, sp).

Secondly, what's so offensive about the dog being gay? Omg, the dog's gay everybody...the dog's gay! Maybe he was just checking out the lesbian dogs, I check out lesbian women! And since he did sire 23 puppies, it's possible he swings both ways if he was checking out the male dogs. Oh, and let's not forget it's a cartoon and thus the dog doesn't exist and therefore has no sexuality in the first place! And this is not to single out Tomacco who writes very complete and well thought out reviews, but he's hoping that they didn't mean it that way (that the dog was gay)? Waddup with that? What if they did? Who cares? Let's all go get a beer.

Thirdly, it had to have been Patti in the gay pride parade because we all know that Selma is always on the hunt for a man, but on the other hand it's usually just to get pregnant and maybe that's where her lust for men stops.

Fourthly, maybe whoever writes these shows, reads these posts, and knows all of our weaknesses, and is EXPLOITING those weaknesses, just to get a rise out of us (or...a boner)? Filthy sex jokes, hints of the end of the series, GAY DOGS? The series is spinning wildly out of control and going in wacky and far out directions, just to screw with us! Think about it, it'll keep you up all night, I'm sure.

Fifthly, the Popeye parody was just stupid. Maybe if they did it just for a second like in the episode when Homer goes into space and becomes Richard Nixon for a second, it woulda been alright (even though that was annoying as well), but this went on for a while.

Sixthly and finally, although I enjoyed the episode, I hope they don't do something like it again because its totally polarized people and it makes it less fun to read the posts when everybody has to feel bad about the Simpsons saying horny (which I don't think was the first time) and a mummy getting a boner.

[Mike Scully]

Wow, it's amazing how much better the episode got on rewatching! My first review was really harsh, but I've been in a bad mood all day. I still think there were a lot of really bad jokes, as I mentioned before, but there were some classic scenes, like the movie preview, and the Popeye parody (which was both funny and feel-good). I guess I appreciated that the episode had a solid plot, even with a message that Homer's personality is what makes the family complete. I'm upgrading my grade from a D- to a C or C+.

[Tirefire]

Yep... this is an ep where you are probably going to catch some things the 2nd time through that you didn't before and it should improve your scores.

[Tomacco]

To anyone who thinks Santa's Little Helper might have been looking at lesbo dogs, he wasn't. He was looking at three dogs, all dressed in cop uniforms, who were looking back at him. And it IS stupid. I go to South Park for jokes about gay dogs, not Simpsons. I go to South Park for boner jokes. I would never expect Simpsons to have one. But whatever, that's my opinion.

[Le Jake]

Originally posted by Tirefire
Yep... this is an ep where you are probably going to catch some things the 2nd time through that you didn't before and it should improve your scores.

Nope, same score for me: B. If I watch it again, it'll probably drop a grade.

Jake

[Le Jake]

Originally posted by Datoupee
I think many people type their reviews based on how they feel right after a first viewing.

That's the problem with first impressions, you only get one.


Watch the episode a couple times and it fits right in with the the rest of the episodes from all the seasons. [/B]

No they don't. Watch Maximum Homerdrive next to Last Exit to Springfield and you'll see clearly the two show's were produced during different eras. Also, I don't understand how people can watch a new episode three or more times in some desperate attempt to find something funny (Homer: It's still good! It's Still good!). Maybe I'm not a "True Fan", or whatever, but this just stupid.

Jake

[Lance_Murdock]

I thought this was the funniest episode of the season. I typically judge an episode by how much I laugh and this one made me chuckle. Especially the duck in the theater. I'll agree that a few things were overdone, but not to the extreme of the Scully days. You have to remember that some of the writers are still around and there influence is not all gone...yet.

However, I agree with what someone said earlier: Homer was not going around acting like a total idiot in this episode. It's almost like he was being "fixed" a little, and they even put a little psychological explanation into it. I for one was glad to see Homer "off the ass" for a change. We shouldn't expect the show to improve dramatically, but gradually. Just like the economy, it may take a while to get the Simpsons back on track. ;)

[mitch mitchell]

I thought that some of the parts were funny, such as the pacifier scene and the popeye thing at the end. Over all it wasn't that funny. However, I think this had some of the best character development of the season. We got to see a different side of Homer, and I liked that. So I gave it a B+...

[fenfool]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I just saw a different commercial. They're at the doctor's office, and Marge comments about how Homer can no longer eat solid foods. Then it cuts to Homer sitting on the couch trying to push a chunk of steak into his mouth, but can't, so he snorts it up his nose. That shot was stupid and cartoony, which is making me hate the look of this episode even more. Then it showed Homer getting his wires stuck on Marge's pacifier, and trying to get her off by swinging her around. Oh god, this episode looks awful, and far too much like a season 11 episode. Jean, this is starting to worry me! :(

Yeah I just hate it when cartoons get cartoon-y... ;)

I enjoyed the episode, personally...

[Mr. Rogers]

This episode didn't rock, but it didn't suck 3/5.

[zaius86]

I liked this episode, but then again; I have liked every episode this season. The only "sexual" joke that I thought was out of place was when Homer said, "I'm horny.", because he would never say that. The other ones have easy explanations:

The Gay Dog: All dogs are gay. My dog has tried to mount a male dog many a time. They're stupid. That's all. Do you get horribly offended when your friend's dog mounts your leg? If you do, you're probably an old wealthy lady that says "I never!" a lot.

The Mummy Boner: The only reason this was said was because the preview was a parody of all the dumb movies out now, like "American Pie". They were just making fun of that kind of humor, showing that even Homer wouldn't laugh at it, just with his impatient laugh.

Moe's Orgasmville: I will admit this was a bit of a graphic way to put it, but it only furthered Moe's character. Moe is a lonely, greedy, dirty guy. He "likes women that take their clothes off for money", and it's totally within his character to say something sort of gross in a sarcastic tone. But once again, it was a bit much. Nothing too bad, though.

The "horny" line was the only complaint I had with this whole episode. Everything else was great in my opinion. Homer's magazine (Pie Times), the movie names (Wedgie: The Movie), Duffman and the barflys' failure to say beer, and the Popeye thing were all hysterical. My grade: B+

[jackscab]

First off, what's up with people reviewing an episode based on a commercial. That's just rediculous. At least wait until it airs before discussing it!
As to the episode, I thought it stank. The first five minutes were promising, but boy was I let down. I thought that it would pick up with the Popeye bit, but it was really too long for a good parody. I really hope that this is the worst of the season, or else I doubt I'll make an effort to watch the rest.

[Helper Monkey]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Maxtone Witherball. Just another funny moment in a consistently hilarious episode.

And I would think everyone here would be happy about a shot a Ian.

jackscab, we'll miss ya. If you stop watching, I hope you have better sense than some and actually quit posting, too.

[Greg Durand]

My review: It was pretty good, although it only sounded nothing better than okay when I first heard of it. It had some great laughs in it, though.
My rating: B+, 8/10.

[James]

Sorry it took me so long to post, I just was kept off the net for a bit. Overall, the main interesting point and best part of this episode was the character portrayal and full and complete interpretations of the characters. Matt Selman portrayed Bart as having some feelings and resentment at his class clownship, Homer as a slightly confused and impulsive-but-wily/dumb oaf, Maggie as a smart and cute baby, and Marge as actually craving the excitement her marriage has made her used to. Besides the great character portrayal, the episode was drop-dead hilarious, especially the parody of black women who try to fit their negative stereotypes ("I'm talking downtown, baby!"), the gay pride parade, Soccer Mummy, Drederick Tatum's appearance, "Bart has feelings!", the Popeye parody, "That'll shut her cryhole!", "Flanders is a goofy-doofy", the Kit-Kat Bars etc. Another thing I noticed was the high amount of sexual content for a typical Simpsons episode, and Maggie babbling in sentences, which shows Selman knows alot about the way babies speak! The only downpoint was slightly weak plotting. And Tomacco, they typically market an episode with the scenes of physical comedy featured.

[Mr. Plow]

If i watch the episode again it might change my attitude towards the episode. Like For the Blunder years, it was so so the first time, and HORRIBLE the second time. With Sweets and Sour marge, i liked it the first time, and then i couldnt stand it the second time

[Kalbelgarion]

I still don't understand how so many people can let a few small sex jokes get in the way of enjoying one of the, if not the, best Simpson episode in the past three years. Ah, well. Differnt Strokes for Different Folks, I guess.

[Homer J Fong]

Maybe I'm just easy to please but I though last night's episode was very funny. I can't understand how anyone could find it as horrible as some have, unless they're a humorless freak.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally posted by Kalbelgarion
I still don't understand how so many people can let a few small sex jokes get in the way of enjoying one of the, if not the, best Simpson episode in the past three years. Ah, well. Differnt Strokes for Different Folks, I guess.

exactly. i guess some people let the actual plot get in the way with the humor or even that scully fucker

[Tomacco]

Can somebody please do me a solid? I need three or four framegrabs from the episode so I can get started on my Guide page. Thanks to whoever comes through. ;)

[Wiggle Puppy]

Could have done w/out the mummy part.

[Centaur]

I tried to warn people to take thy sticks oughtta thy asses before watching, and to pay attention and stuff like that. But, no, a ton of people focused on stupid things (that actually were funny) but they're "net" brainwashing has drained all humor from their heads to the point where they have a pad and pen out when they're watching and they start jotting down things that are "inappropriate". Inappropriate? Wtf? So the carpet cleaners did get to you? Go start watching Leave it to Beaver, ya humorless freaks.

At worst, the show was a solid B. People have a right to say C because I guess some people were turned off by certain things or didn't even get other things, but any lower than that and the person needs a good slapping around. Cause you ain't gonna see much better than that the remainder of the season.

This happens a lot though. Betcha next week, people who slammed this "good episode" will bizarrely like the next new one out of some kinda guilt even though it may suck. I keep thinking about that gag in that one ep where they had that kids focus group. And that George Meyer dude is like "so you want a down to earth show that's totally crazy and off the wall". And then he's like, "you don't know what ya want, that's why you're still kids". I reckon a lot of y'all don't know what you want.

In anticipation of responses: "We want less sex gags, more emotion like in earlier seasons blah blah blah". Well, it ain't the Bush Sr. era folks. Things change and evolve. But ya know what, there still is emotion and stuff like in this ep - criminy, nothin'll satisfy u folk.

Here's some people... "I don't like this and this and this and this... and this part was totally off the wall, and where did this come from, and they said penis, i have to go to my mommy, that's inappropriate - i didn't even pay attention to the humor in the rest of the ep - why don't they just sit there on the couch for 20 minutes to make me happy -- oh wait, look i watched it again, hey it's actually a good ep -- my bad".

And so it will repeat itself next week.

[Kalbelgarion]

Without the last Mummy "joke" that is...right? Heck, the preview up until that was classic Simpsons material. :LOL:

And, hey! There's nothing wrong with Leave it to Beaver! One of the two best shows to come out of the 50's, it was! :p

And, come on, everybody! I watched this episode with my Mom in the room, and I'm as accepting as the next fellow of...those...jokes. Methinks many more people would be more accepting of those sexual jokes if they were show one an episode, rather than ~3 in one show.

[Le Jake]

Originally posted by Centaur
[B]...But, no, a ton of people focused on stupid things (that actually were funny) but they're "net" brainwashing has drained all humor from their heads to the point where they have a pad and pen out when they're watching and they start jotting down things that are "inappropriate".</B>

To some people, the stupid parts are 'stupid parts' because they're stupid parts.

But once your viewpoint is written, who needs others?


At worst, the show was a solid B. People have a right to say C because I guess some people were turned off by certain things or didn't even get other things, but any lower than that and the person needs a good slapping around.

How kind of you...


Cause you ain't gonna see much better than that the remainder of the season.

Please give us some documentation on how the "remainder of the season ain't gonna see much better", or kindly withdraw your claim.


This happens a lot though. Betcha next week, people who slammed this "good episode" will bizarrely like the next new one out of some kinda guilt even though it may suck.

Finding ways to “fit” a lot of other people's opinions into your belief system is a waste of time if you’re not open-minded enough to see how much the episode can have a different impact on other people.


I keep thinking about that gag in that one ep where they had that kids focus group. And that George Meyer dude is like "so you want a down to earth show that's totally crazy and off the wall". And then he's like, "you don't know what ya want, that's why you're still kids". I reckon a lot of y'all don't know what you want.

If you make blanket generalizations that lumps everyone into some "charicature fan" you'll never be able to unscramble those eggs. I could say ALL people like you, C., are blindly worshipping the show simply because it's the "Simpsons" and you have a shrine in your room with candles circling a photo of Matt Groening.


In anticipation of responses: "We want less sex gags, more emotion like in earlier seasons blah blah blah". Well, it ain't the Bush Sr. era folks. Things change and evolve. But ya know what, there still is emotion and stuff like in this ep - criminy, nothin'll satisfy u folk.

You're comments on evolution of comedy is true, but expecting everyone to just shut up and like it is misguided.


Here's some people... "I don't like this and this and this and this... and this part was totally off the wall, and where did this come from, and they said penis, i have to go to my mommy, that's inappropriate - i didn't even pay attention to the humor in the rest of the ep - why don't they just sit there on the couch for 20 minutes to make me happy -- oh wait, look i watched it again, hey it's actually a good ep -- my bad".

A brazen generalization is no substitute for a rational argument. If you can’t back up your comments with "Look at me! I'm a true fan!", you shouldn't say anything in the first place.


And so it will repeat itself next week.

What? The show, or this kind of commentary?

Jake

[radiationdude7]

Hello all, i havent posted yet because i was busy aftyer the show. I give the show a B+. It was pretty funny. I think it was a little too family guy humor with boner, sexual release, orgasmville, horny. I thought it was funny, but too "Family Guy". The plot was pretty good. I liked that Homer was kinda nice. But one incident can't change him completly. I think that this might be the start of the "de-dumbification" of homer.

[Kalbelgarion]

Couple this with the family being slightly reformed in "Brawl in the Family", and Homer should be quite de-dumbified by now. :D

[radiationdude7]

Yeah. I really didn't mind Homer in seasons 10-12. I know that all but 3 people on the board will gang up on me for saying this but i said it before and i will say it again. "Saddlesore Galictia" is a great episode. The reason, Homer. That episode could not have been as funny w/o Homer's stupidness. But I'll wait to see what happens.

[InanimateCarbonRod]

Originally posted by radiationdude7
Yeah. I really didn't mind Homer in seasons 10-12. I know that all but 3 people on the board will gang up on me for saying this but i said it before and i will say it again. "Saddlesore Galictia" is a great episode. The reason, Homer. That episode could not have been as funny w/o Homer's stupidness. But I'll wait to see what happens.

I agree with you on that one. I mean, how can you not laugh at Homer's pearl dream, or his line "My horse must loooose!" even if he was surrounded by jockey trolls?

[radiationdude7]

Originally posted by InanimateCarbonRod


I agree with you on that one. I mean, how can you not laugh at Homer's pearl dream, or his line "My horse must loooose!" even if he was surrounded by jockey trolls?


Thank you. I will start a seperate thread for support for that ep.

[Voodoo Monkey]

My favorite parts were So Hungry and Otm Shank.

That says a lot.

[Splashmore]

Originally posted by Jake

Also, I don't understand how people can watch a new episode three or more times in some desperate attempt to find something funny (Homer: It's still good! It's Still good!).
Jake

Heh. I was thinking the same thing.

[DotheBartman]

I do have to agree with Jake on rewatching episodes. I enjoyed it more the second time, but only a little bit, and mostly just because I noticed a few things I had missed. I think there are exceptions, including maybe this episode for some people, but generally a good episode is good the first time. I hated Simpsons Safari the first time, and I hated it just as much the following time. I enjoyed this one the first and second times, even if I enjoyed it more the second time.

Anyways, on a side note, for whoever does those framegrabs for Tomacco, I'd suggest one showing the beer mug on Homer's bicep. Its one of the funnier moments, in my opinion. :)

[Splashmore]

Off topic but. NO MATTER WHAT I DO AND NO MATTER WHAT PROGRAM I'VE USED. I CANNOT TAKE A FRAMEGRAB OF ANYTHING ON REALPLAYER. I pause the clip I want, but the capture comes up black!

[Tomacco]

I just finished the guide page, sans framegrabs. Just waitin on those grabs, then I'll be able to post it.

[tim_duncan2000]

Originally posted by Centaur
Here's some people... "I don't like this and this and this and this... and this part was totally off the wall, and where did this come from, and they said penis, i have to go to my mommy, that's inappropriate - i didn't even pay attention to the humor in the rest of the ep - why don't they just sit there on the couch for 20 minutes to make me happy -- oh wait, look i watched it again, hey it's actually a good ep -- my bad".
So I guess if anyone doesn't agree with you about the episode and if they don't think the same things are funny that you think are funny, then they are stupid. That was also very mature when you said "and they said penis, i have to go to my mommy". I don't get all offended when stuff like that happens in an episode, I just don't find it very funny and I would expect that kind of humor in something like South Park or Family Guy. That's not what the Simpsons is about, but I guess now it is and I better find it funny or else that means I don't think anything is funny. I just call them like I see them, and if it's not funny, it's not funny. It doesn't make me any better or any worse than you if I don't find what I perceive to be lame jokes funny. Maybe I'm just spoiled from watching episodes back when it was funnier, so excuse me for not finding everything funny that's on the Simpsons just because it's the Simpsons and we all know it can't not be funny.

[Kodos]

Does any one here remember an episode of 'The Critic' with a gag similar to the Homer as Popeye one. It was Jays' father who drank booze and turned in to the sailor man to save his wife, who, like Marge, looked like Olive Oil.
I mention this because I think Al Jean was a producer on at least a few 'Critic' shows.

[Discokev]

Three simple words , A-Ok Episode ever!!

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Originally posted by TheAnswerMan


Heh. I was thinking the same thing.

Not to sound rude, Answer Man, but your signature is about 90% bigger than 90% of your posts! I know a few people asked you to change it, but I'm begging you! It's irritating(to me) to have to scroll down for so long just to view the next post. So please AnsMan, do something about that sig!

[marzipan]

In all honesty, the worst Simpsons episode this season, for me, was the one where Burns fell in love with that woman whose voice was done by Julia Louis-Dreyfuss. At least this episode had a few laughs in it; the Burns one wasn't even a BIT funny :(

[Wavy Gravy]

I guess this episode was okay. I usually like episodes that feature a variety of characters (which is why I laved DABF03 "Sweets and Sour Marge" so much) and the return of Drederick Tatum, Itchy & Scratchy, and Duffman were welcome surprises for me. I also liked the idea of Homer becoming an attentive, caring person for once. I thought this episode played out well.

Rating: 4/5.

[BangBangBart]

I gave it a 4/5. A lot funnier than i thought it would be. I can't believe how many gay jokes they crammed into the first 5 minutes lol

[Oliver]

i havent seen it but it sounds craptacular

[Tomacco]

I hear everyone saying "craptacular: always, and it's starting to get confusing about if people mean it as "good" or "bad". heheh

[Oliver]

im pretty sure it means bad.

[BangBangBart]

or good..

[James]

Or bad.

[Bluesman]

It's like all these new eps are leading back to how the Simpsons were. Despite the mummy and "I'm horny!" jokes everyone keeps bitching about, Homer got smarter. He actually was more like how he used to be, and if it continues, the show will go back to where it was. And speaking of jokes people whine about, the Moe bit was hilarious. The ep wasn't really funny, but if Scully wrote that one, it would have made me quit watching, because we all know how it would have turned out.

[Tomacco]

As usual:

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/!JAWSWIREDSHUT.gif

[DotheBartman]

Good job, Tomacco!

If those publishers don't consider using your designs for the next guide books, they can bite my shiny metal ass!

[Sanstar]

I thought Jaws Wise Shut was a good idea for a story line, but I think the making of the episode could have been better. The whole idea of Homer becoming such a wonderful man just because he can't speak was very interesting and had some nice originality. Marge's need to fill in for the lack of wackiness was also clever. I think that the idea for this epiosde was a real winner, but because the script seemed to lack some real good laughs and stronger emotion (for what should have been a more emotional episode than others), I wouldn't rate this episode right up there,...but for attempt at making what could have been a classic episode and still demonstrating that the creators arn't completely out of ideas, I'd still give it a good rating.
-Stephanie

[Wavy Gravy]

Originally posted by Tomacco
As usual:

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/!JAWSWIREDSHUT.gif

Hey, Tomacco, when are you gonna do another double-pager? You haven't done one since "The Parent Rap", and I was just wondering.

[Tomacco]

Yeah, I know, it's been totally unintentional. Originally, I wanted to have a double-page for "The Bart Wants What it Wants", so I was trying to organize the pages accordingly. I didn't want "Jaws Wired Shut" to have a double-page, so to make it a single page, I had to decide to make "Half-Decent Proposal" a single page as well. Also, after "Homer the Moe" aired, I didn't think it deserved a double-page, so I made it a single, and therefore "A Hunka Hunka Burns in Love" one too. Then "Blunder Years" aired, and I hated it, and didn't have a clue how I could possibly fill a double-page with it, so I didn't. And then therefore, I had to make "She of Little Faith" a single too. Then came "Brawl in the Family", and I was thinking of making a double-page for that, but at that point, I was hoping to have a double-page for "Half-Decent Proposal" assuming they'd air episodes in p-code order, so I figured I'd make "Brawl" a single, followed by "Sweets and Sour Marge" a single, then "HalfDecent" a double. As you can see, predicting airdates has really screwed up my single/double arrangement. At least I know DABF06 can have a double, so expect tp see that. Then, from then on, I'm gonna try to squeeze in a lot more doubles.

[jack]

Undoubtably the best episode of the season. :D

[MarkM]

I thought it was OK but I must say the plot was stupid. I loved the Milhouse on Afternoon Yak, though. I gave it a....... (Drumroll) 3/5.

[Sanjay]

Tomacco - That Guide page is great! I'm new, so toss me a friggin' bone here - where are the rest of your pages archived? I wanna read 'em.

[Tomacco]

It's okay, here ya go:

Seasons 11 and 12 (lower quality):
http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/guide.htm

Season 13 (higher quality):
http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/guide2.htm

[Sanjay]

Thank You. Your work is superb!

[Cole]

Yes, congratulations Tomacco on another job well done. I always look forward to reading your guides after new episodes. Thanks. :D

[Wavy Gravy]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Then, from then on, I'm gonna try to squeeze in a lot more doubles.

Good, but don't do TOO many, like in "The Simpsons Forever".

[crazyhomer]

I didnt really like it...but it was realistic...it just foesnt go with Season 13...and i didnt really like the desprite attempt made by Marge that episode seemed very out of character.

[James]

When I think up an episode, I always imagine a guide book page, and it's odd for how some I imagine a single page and for others a double. Some kind of unconscious association, I guess.

[Robbie]

A good, just plain funny episode. The boner joke didn't bother me, because it was just poking fun at all those incredibly stupid "teen movies" they have nowadays.

[Robbie]

Originally posted by Smilin'JoeFission


Not to sound rude, Answer Man, but your signature is about 90% bigger than 90% of your posts! I know a few people asked you to change it, but I'm begging you! It's irritating(to me) to have to scroll down for so long just to view the next post. So please AnsMan, do something about that sig!

Funny you should say that, Smilin' Joe, because your new sig has got to be the biggest goddamn thing I've ever seen.

[rpm1200]

What's up with the demolition derby announcer giving a summary of the episode's plot? Really weird...
Also, the Popeye thing went on for too long. Other than that, the episode was pretty good...

[Ryan]

absolutely LOVED this one! hilarious! best so far in s13. 10/10

[zitro]

4.3 / 5

This first act isn't super, but I remember it being so refreshing for developing Homer's character and making him likable and less dumb. There were quite some funny moments and the popeye parody is one of the most laugh-out-loud and memorable scenes in the whole season.

[Moe Nopoly]

i think it was a really good episode from this season. Also Homer's character was quite nice in the story. Overall the storyplot is the big plus in this episode imo.

B+

[Nauru-1]

Meant to go with a 3 but I accidentally voted a 4. It's a high 3 though. Like the Homer learning to listen because he can't express himself as easily. Not perfect, but pleasant.

[bartyboy]

4/5. A really out there Family Guy-ish episode.

[Granto]

I quite enjoyed it, best episode for Season 13 and most of the sex jokes actually fall well with me this time. It was a bit wacky and a bit crazy but I liked it, a highlight for Matt Selman and the Popeye references had me in stitches.

3.5 bumped to a 4/5

[SUPERFOX5]

5/5

Just recently saw this. It was awesome.

Also, loved the Popeye reference at the end!

The idea of Homer listening to people instead of talking to people for one episode is good.

[Toomanygrandmas]

Season 13 has quite a few good episodes, and a few post classic 'gems', hence why the season is probably the second best non-classic season, after Season 9. 'Jaws Wired Shut' isn't quite a gem, but is definitely one of the good episodes that litter the season.

The plot was a mixed bag, and is probably why this episode isn't quite a gem. The main problem is that it got too wacky sometimes. Though nothing objectable, the gay pride scene at the beggining seemed a little pointless and a little long - it had very little to do with the family going to the cinema - Homer wanting to get away was a pretty loose connection. The scene at the cinema was fine, but Homer being chased by guards with giant kit-kats seemed a bit over the top, as did Homer's reason for breaking his jaw. The plot did pick up when Homer gets his jaw wired shut. It was nice to see a selfless Homer, and it did show things about the other members of the family - although some of these things weren't really expanded on in this, or later episodes. The plot never really 'lost it', but it got too wacky for my tastes near the end, with the funny, but pretty zany Popeye parody.

Humour wise, this episode was a lot stronger, and humour was this episode's strong point. There were a lot of funny moments throughout. Examples include the name of films in the background at the cinema - something always worth looking out for. Funny gags/moments include: Homer snorting the meat, 'Local man ruins everything', and some of the jokes at the ball. Despite being wacky, the popeye ending was pretty funny. However, there were some not so good moments. Firstly, it felt like there were too many sex jokes, even though a few were funny (kind of immature, but I laughed at the mummy getting an erection). Secondly, I didn't like Marge's line about the people at the Demolition Derby 'not being loved' or something.

However, having said all that, it is a pretty decent outing. Wacky plot, but generally good humour.
In the poll: 4/5 As a final grade: 7.5/10

[leprechaun_dan]

I'll keep it short and simple, as always. Wonderful post-classic episode with a hilarious Popeye ending. 4/5

[Oh, that's raspberry!]

Season 13 continues when Homer has his jaw wired shut! This occurs because he gets impatient at the movie theater and leads a revolt. The ushers chase after him so he leaves the theater and crashes into a new statue of Drederick Tatum. This breaks his jaw and he must get it wired shut. Homer is at first dismayed as he can't eat solid foods and misses out on easy Duff-related trivia. Eventually however he learns to listen and notices new things about his family. Marge is thrilled at the more well behaved Homer and worries he will revert back to his old self when the jaw wires are removed. This doesn't happen though and Marge realizes she actually misses the old Homer. She is so bored without him she enters a demolition derby. Homer has to come to her rescue, which he does as the episode ends with everything basically back to normal.

This is and has always been a personal favorite of mine from this season. I love the first two acts and the third manages to still be entertaining and have many good jokes. The Gay Pride parade at the beginning is notable for a hint at Patty being gay which will be revealed in a later episode. I also love Maggie rubbing her eyes twice. At the movie's I love the title Shenani-goats and use it quite often. I can also relate with Homer's impatience and I noticed they once again use that fighting music here I love so much.

Act 2 is the best though as it has several highly enjoyable scenes with Homer learning to be a good listener. I love the scene with Lisa, who should really imitate Ralph more often, Bart, Grampa, and the several with Marge. The donkey that is introduced here will come back twice and I enjoy every scene involving it. What makes me really like this episode though is the new, more caring side of Homer we rarely see. I just really enjoy scenes like these where he gets along so well with everyone.

Act 3 starts out fine enough with a nice The View parody. I don't know why but I love Homer trying to punch that ostrich to death. Milhouse showing up was also a nice gag. I like the play fake-out as well, especially the gag with the professor actually showing up. Marge going crazy looking for excitement is probably the biggest stretch the episode makes, but I don't mind it. It at least allows for several nice Popeye references. Overall I view this episode rather highly, and perhaps even in this season's top 5. 4.5/5, rounded up to a 5 for the poll.

[do what donny dont does]

Im horny.
I dont know what you just said, but Im sure it was beautiful.

[Blobulle]

Easily one of the best episodes of the season 13. A

[Bella Drape 'er]

With some really funny one-liners and some sweet moments in the second act, it's easily a 4/5 for me.

The only thing that lets it down is the crazy plotting.

[SpeedwaySquad]

Some funny bits ("unlike you people I'm loved", Otm Shank, Homer writing "yes" on the blackboard twice, unnecessarily) but it gets really weird about half way through... Marge finding things boring and the whole demolition derby thing wasn't very well executed, could have had some more lead up; I didn't really buy it. Also the beginning was totally unrelated (the gay pride served literally no purpose, even in most episodes with odd beginnings/lead-ups it somehow links), but I didn't mind it.

But I will give this episode credit for being original. Even if it felt odd, the idea of looking at the family without Homer as a live-wire is an interesting idea even if it wasn't amazingly executed. The scenes where Homer learnt to listen were probably the highlights; I actually liked the scene with Homer and Bart quite a bit even though Bart's "deepness" was somewhat cliché. Unfortunately these scenes are balanced out by the odd moment of stupidity, like Homer snorting his steak and the bit with Maggie's pacifier (thankfully it was short).

So this was just adequate. It just felt a bit weird even if there were moments of sweetness... C+/B-

[Egyptian]

To be honest, I didn't think the plot was wacky at all; grounded, if anything. Laughed pretty hard at the Otm Shank joke, Drederick Tatum is always entertaining and Homer's Popeye impression was hilariously accurate.
Can't really see where Jake's coming from - I'm not sure why 'the odd moment of stupidity' is a bad thing, especially since the steak snorting was funnay.

Love this episode - 5/5

[Riviera]

This episode was good, but not great. I actually thought the plot was the strong point of the episode, at least after the gay pride parade thing. The humour in this one was just okay, but like I said, I thought the plot was a good idea, so it just squeaks by with a 4/5.