Rate/Review: Brake My Wife, Please (EABF15)

[Andy]

Wow... any other mods here? I had to make this between Act 1 and Act 2!

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[RacistInsomniac]

One of the better episodes in my opinion.

"And to all my dear friends I say, Get the Hell outta my yard." :LOL:

[HellBender]

With the exception of the last 5 minutes, the episode was pretty much lame... Moe is getting worse every week, and the video store scene was just dreadful and wouldn't end! 3/5

[Moose of Doom!]

Even though they were pretty close, this is the way the ending to Gays of the Condo should've been.

The music number was great, especially Buscemi's funny-yet-pointless cameo.

4/5

[Datoupee]

What an amazing episode. I loved the last line... "Get the hell outta my yard !"... and instant classic. 5 of 5 !!!

[Ignatius J. Reilly]

3/5

The French Bus Boys saved it for me.

[Stackhouse]

A great episode, ranks way up there above 'Special Edna' yet below 'Scuse me'. Good jokes, I thought the plot moved very well, and the characters were very likable without any Homer adding in unneeded remarks after everything that happens. Wonderful.

9.5/10

[Andy]

Okay... was this the first episode to copy off other episodes IN THE SAME SEASON?!

This was basically Three Gays of the Condo, Reversed. Too many stupid/zany gags (Bart in the aquarium, fighting frogs), really dumb cameo appearances (it's getting really bad when you just have Steve Buscemi coming out of nowhere doing absolutely nothing for the plot), and some really bad writing. Hopefully next week won't be as bad, as the plotlines aren't as horrible.

[bmac]

I enjoyed this episode very much. It had a pretty good plot which flowed rather smoothly. The only things i disliked was that it seemed like Marge turned hateful rather quickly and they were already at a marriage counselor, that all went a little to quick for me. I also really didn't enjoy the song that Homer sang while he was walking, but other than that, i enjoyed. Well written episode IMO. I give it a 4/5.

[Hans Barber]

The episode would of been a lot better, if it was turned into about 5 different episodes. The problem with the Simpsons last few episodes, and a few others this past season, is that they try and squeeze too many different plots into one episode. They did this one OK, but taking 2 of the plots out, and the guest stars, and the exaggerated gags, would have made it a lot better. 2\5

[Tibor]

It wasn't mind blowing, but it was an enjoyable half hour. A lot of great jokes in here. Some jokes ran on too long, others fell flat and there were structural problems. I think that Marge's conflict with Homer came up too late in the episode, similar to Lisa's dilemna in Spelling. It also seemed rambly at points, but I found myself enjoying it. The Buscemi guest spot didn't bother me too much, but Jackson Browne was a classic example of out of nowhere guestspots.

B-

[Tomacco]

That one WILL need another watch. I'm really conflicted with it, because that was one of the fastest-paced Simpsons episodes of all-time, and was pretty all over the place, but not in such a bad way. It was easy to follow, but by the end of the episode, you just can't figure out if that aquarium stuff and driving stuff was in the same episode. Gimme a moment to try to reflect on it.

[My Little Needle]

2/5. A couple of OK jokes (Steve Buscemi, French joke), but the plot line (marriage problems) was recycled. The scene at the video store was pathetic with a capital z.

[Urath28]

Was really good, dare I see the best of the season? No, it wasn't but it was very good and reached back into the roots of the Simpsons, It was not to over the top, but really stayed the course. Overall a very solid episode.

4/5 for season 3/5 overall

[Toxic Monkey]

im with psyche on this one. i did not like it that much. 2/5, since i dont see why it deserves any better.

[Milhouse Van Houten]

The plot for tonights episode was god awfull but there where some realy great jokes (Homer in the Video store, The penguins flying when Lisa opened the door, Neds 'letter from jesus', and I realy like the first musical number) all of which I lauphed out load at. The thing that kinda ruined it for me was how the plot did a complete 180 from homer losing his liscence to a Possible Homer and Marge breakup. So all in all tonights episode was not terrible not great 3/5

[doyle]

not a very bad episode. the characters were all done fairly well with no jerkass homer. the plot was done well, flowing with very few problems.

the humor was also pretty good. no very memorable one-liners, but i liked the whole opening sequence with the field trip and the dennis the menace parody cracked me up. i also liked the scene where homer is in the video store. there were no horrible jokes and the only parts i didnt really like was when homer had all that stuff in his car, and afterwards in the courtroom. the musical scenes were done pretty well.

overall, it was a fairly forgettable episode but it was still well put together and that is good enough to get a 4/5 from me

[Urts]

Pretty satisfying episode. Much of the first act actually felt a bit like classic Simpsons, except for Bart's slightly cartoonish injury. Homer loading his car up was pretty funny, but I really thought Lindsey Neagle coming out of nowhere was rather lame. The second act was a bit slow and boring at times, but the song really picked it up(Steve Buscemi was awesome).

I really thought they took a risk by changing the plot in the third act, but it added depth to the episode, in my opinion. The ending was quite nice and helped improve the episode(although Homer regaining Marge's love was already covered in "Three Gays of The Condo").

A bit slow at times, but an improvement over the last two episodes.

Rating: 3 or 3.5/5

[paul byers]

Not bad. Some good chuckles here and there. How many more refereneces of "Dennis the Menace" can they get away with? This is the second week where scenes from the promos have been cut. I didn't find it terribly interesting, but it is still a step up from last week's episode in terms of plot development and probably in the top five this season. Can't wait until next week (3.5/5).

[J.Re*]

Dude,
Meet me in Montana
XOXOXO,
Jesus

5/5

[NoOneFamous]

Episode Notes

1st Act:
Fucking rich Texan - DIE
Bart getting attacked by fish - dumb
Homer at video store - too long

I forget what else happened... it jumped around too much

2nd Act:
Burn their poop? - dumb. and i hate that judge - stop bringing her back
The voices really seem off in this episode...

I stopped taking notes here (I got bored, and I wasn't finding many positive things to say)
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Ugh... as much as I wanted to, I just couldn't get into this episode. Wait, I didn't want to - I wasn't looking foreward to watching it at all. I hate to say it, but I'm finally losing interest in new episodes after watching so much medeocre stuff. Still, I tried to enjoy it, but I couldn't. As usual, the only things I could notice was the fact that the plot was all over the place and horribly unstructured (not to mention reused), most of the gags were lame, childish, forced, or re-used, and yet even more forced emotion at the end. I'm trying to remember stuff I liked, but it was just so much like everything else lately, that I pretty much lost all interest in the episode. They were, IMO, on a good episode streak for awhile, but now it seems that they've fallen back into mediocrity. The only positive things I can really say, is that Homer was pretty well characterized and the episode didn't do anything over the top.

Oh yeah, more lame, forced musical numbers too. Not only do almost all the numbers this season suck, but they're almost every single episode!

2/5

[Pukahontas]

YUCK. Man, I thought this was going to be good, but boy was I wrong. I usually don't complain but this was just not right. The first act started this crap episode off, fish beating up bart, whats with that and the video store sequence was terrible. Dr. Hibbert sucked, and so did Judge Harm, there is no reason to bring her back. One of the only funny things was Homer driving with all that crap in his car. They completly overdid the walking thing...why would Homer like walking? Completly out of character. The guest stars were one of the most unuseful ever. The episode looked like it could turn around with the Marriage Conciling, but after that scene it went back downhill. They should have left the Flanders gag alone, but they ruined it w/ showing him on the train. Sorry for complaining so much, but I couldn't take this episode. Tied for worst of season with Helter Shelter. Hopefully my opinion will change after watching it agian and looking at others' reviews. Atleast I can look foward to next weeks episode, both look GREAT.

2/5 Didn't get a 1 b/c there was SOME things I laughed at and I can't give an ep a 1 for some reason...Im soft

EDIT: I didn't see what the letter from "Jesus" said and after seeing what it said in J.Re*s' post I retract my statement...grade still stands at 2

[Smilin'JoeFission]

It wasn't terrible, just all over the place. A lot of funny moments though, too many to name. Homer's rendition of "Mexican Hat Dance" cracked me up, as did his turntables. The story was really good with good writing, but like too many other episodes the main focus was completely rushed, and the ending was slowed down too much. Next week's episodes look more promising.

[huh?]

Act One was very terrible, as it lacked direction and changed several times. Storage joke was very good though, as was most of the aquarium sequence. The second act I thought was okay, it did develop well, but was a little bit slow. Good song, with a great ending. And the third act, like was said before, was a complete change from the previous acts, and made the episode worse. Psychyatrist scene was pretty good, and I thought the busboy joke was hilarious.

Still, decidely meh: 2.75/5. On the bright side, the season finale sounds good.

[J.Re*]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous
I stopped taking notes here If that's true, you need to stop being such a nerd (I'm a hypocrite, but not a note taker) & watch the show for fun. Don't make it into a chore.

[Sir Cromulence]

3/5

I thought it was a pretty enjoyable episode...good but not great. Didn't particularly like the turn that the plot took in the third act, though there were some good jokes (I dug the Flanders bit).

[mohammed jafar]

We are all nerds here, duh. Though I would say that taking notes on first viewing is a bad idea.

[Mr. Plow]

I enjoyed this episode more than the past few episodes. A lot more jokes that I found funny. My favorite joke was Bart and his butt cheeks in the aquarium. 4/5

[NoOneFamous]

You're right, it is, I admit. But it really does seem to affect how much you like an episode, because instead of remembering the few good things (which are easier to remember), you remember all the bad things as well. I also admit that watching the show has pretty much become a chore... not because I like to review episodes - thats just for fun, but for the fact that every week I try to force myself to like the episode, and lately, I just can't. I continue to watch though because the show does surprise me sometimes with stuff I really like... just not lately.

[Handsome Pete]

There were some serious problems with this episode. First off, I didn't really like the use of guest stars in this one. Sure, many guest stars are tacked on, but those two really seemed to be added just for the sake of guest stars. I did get a chuckle out of the comment on the new album singer-person I've never heard of, though. Also, many of the concepts and plot points in this episode were reused, and frankly, they didn't change enough of it to make it seem new. Many of the jokes were particularly awful and too cartoony (a lot of them in the terrible first act), and the animation was a little sloppy. The latter is just a minor complaint, though.

On the plus side, some of the jokes were actually pretty good. Burns giving Homer a pass to the 1939 World's Fair, mention of Grandpa proposing to the hooker, Homer imagining and even saying "Dr. Hot Dog" (best joke of the episode), and Ned's letter from "Jesus" all got some laughs from me. Also, the song was tolerable (and ended appropriately, if you ask me), and the third act really cleaned things up in regard to the rest of the episode. It was even nice to see Patty and Selma again.

Overall, I'd give it a 2.5, which rounds up to a 3. The first act was awful, the second wasn't that good, but the third was much better.

[East Rd]

This episode was below expectations. There were so many forced moments. And why was Lisa on a Field trip with Bart's class? Anyways, there wasn't much funniness, the song was pointless, and it just wreaked of bad writing.
2/5

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous
You're right, it is, I admit. But it really does seem to affect how much you like an episode, because instead of remembering the few good things (which are easier to remember), you remember all the bad things as well.

Uhh..so, if I understand correctly, then this is what you want? You keep taking notes on the episodes, even though you know taking notes on bad stuff is effecting your perception on the show negatively.

[Necromancer]

A meh episode really, 3/5

[Shiver]

this one wasn't very good, a couple good moments...

Flanders meet me in Montana
Love Jesus
xoxo

was the only time I laughed out loud...

the whole make up / break up shit between Marge and Homer is starting to loose it's touch...

-Shiver

[Tibor]

I will say that I watched this in an exceptional mood, and structure problems that would normally irritate me went over much better. For example, it seemed like a lot of plot developments were propelled by things that came from nowhere (i.e., Lindsey Naegle). But, as I said, I was in a good mood, and it probably makes me a hypocrite, as structure/plot problems usually cheese me off pretty good. But, meh... I'll watch it again later.

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Uhh..so, if I understand correctly, then this is what you want? You keep taking notes on the episodes, even though you know taking notes on bad stuff is effecting your perception on the show negatively.
No, I'm saying that it usually gives you a more negative perception of an episode, but only because you remember everything that was bad in it in contrast to a couple things that were good. For example, many people on here seem to remember just a few funny jokes from an episode and then give it a good grade because they forgot all the lame stuff. So, I think that taking notes (or at least in your head, which is what I used to do) while watching an episode gives you a better opinion of it in the end.

[|RABiD|]

A Fantastic episode! Tim Long's best since "Half-Decent Proposal." I thought the episode wasn't jumpy at all really. Funny in all the right places, and touching. Excellent ending and characterization! 5/5

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous
No, I'm saying that it usually gives you a more negative perception of an episode, but only because you remember everything that was bad in it in contrast to a couple things that were good. For example, many people on here seem to remember just a few funny jokes from an episode and then give it a good grade because they forgot all the lame stuff. So, I think that taking notes (or at least in your head, which is what I used to do) while watching an episode gives you a better opinion of it in the end.

I think the reason behind this is the bad stuff really isn't as big a deal as it seems on paper, which is why people often forget about it. People watch the show for enjoyment, so they'll more likely remember things they enjoyed, as opposed to the little lines or gags that didn't appeal to their taste. Just a thought, I could be somewhat wrong.

[Simpson Purist]

7/10, A good but disjointed episode, then again what else can I expect from Tim Long. I was in a forgiving mood today since I was expecting Family Guy type gags in this episode anyway.

What I liked
Bravo animators, the animation is starting to look like season 9 quality. Bart and Lisa are showing some of their stuff. The emotional stuff was handled quite well despite the tacky feeling of Tim Long's narrative structure.

Things that made me ;-/
A good majority of the first act made me roll my eyes. The aquarium scenes were horrible for the most part (especially the animals attacking Bart). Moe is turning into unfunny version of Glen Quagmire. As well done the third act was, it felt tacked on and it made me ask "how the fuck did this happen?" And one more thing, BRING JUDGE SNYDER BACK!

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I think the reason behind this is the bad stuff really isn't as big a deal as it seems on paper, which is why people often forget about it. People watch the show for enjoyment, so they'll more likely remember things they enjoyed, as opposed to the little lines or gags that didn't appeal to their taste. Just a thought, I could be somewhat wrong.
True, but I've also given a lot of As and Bs to episodes I watched while "taking notes" on. My low grade might have something to do with my attitude right now, so I should give this episode another watch. But I still know that right now I really didn't see much positive stuff in it.

[henry]

4/5 for me, for many of the reasons listed above, etc

[Bob Underdunk T]

5/5
It was another great one.
The low point was definately the Steve cameo. Worst celebrity camea this season!

Also, Montana no longer has passenger trains.

[Al-barto]

I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode, (you know who you are)rather than posting the same Freakin long crap story of how i hate the episode, and i think they should stop. I think you should stop watching it if you dont like it, The only reason you watch it is because its still the BEST. Tonight was aother great episode (it helps when you watch the epsiode as a Simpsons fan, not a crtitic the whole orld became).
Im sure if the Internet was as common 10 years ago, half of you idiots would complain on every episode as well.Enjoy it, as were the lucky ones that can watch The Simpsons every week.
Ill be there same time next week, Sunday at 8:00pm

Always a fan
Al-Barto

Amen to the Simpsons

[Bob Underdunk T]

Originally posted by East Rd
And why was Lisa on a Field trip with Bart's class?
Lisa and Ralph always go everywhere with Bart's class.

[DotheBartman]

Hmmm...if ever an episode felt like it needed it retooling to truly succeed, it was this one. Its funny, reading some of SimpsonPurist's comments, because there were points where I really wondered if I was watching "Family Guy". Homer's flashback to the video store...the general disjointedness....weirdass jokes like flying penguins and fighting frogs that made no sense (and weren't funny in this case). I'd have to say, while I do have some positive things to say (and I'll get to them), this episode was tremendously flawed. First off, the disjointedness and fast pacing really was a big problem. The first act doesn't even include Marge. Save for her helping Skinner and a few other things she's excluded from the entire first act, which is just bad plotting/pacing. The entire first act was essentially useless, and just an excuse to showcase Homer's stupidity (admittingly some of it was funny), and have them go to an aquarium for some reason. The rest of the episode wasn't a whole lot better, and I didn't feel like they adequetely focused their time on the plot. It all went by fast, and again seemed to focus much more on Homer then Marge. And, of course, there were the weirdass jokes like the penguins, Homer's literaly burning off calories, etc that worked to spoil things. Just too many misfire jokes in general.

Then again, there was a lot to like, and that's why I particularly wish some retooling had gone into this. The story was generally basic and down to earth, and I liked some individual moments. Some of the emotion felt a little plastic, but for newer season standards a lot of it was actually fairly touching, especcially at the end. Not "Three Gays" touching, but touching nothenless. Much of the characterization, including Bart for once, but also the other characters, was generally very good. And even humorwise, I think there was a lot to like, despite all the misfires. The song I thought was (mostly) pretty funny, with even the guest star not being bad in that case (keep in mind, he wasn't really there, he just appeared in the childish way Homer would have him appear in a daydream). A lot of other moments, like at the psychiatrist, Dennis the Menace, Burns, etc had me laughing, or at least smiling. Heck, if you want to get really detailed in this, there were some classic elements that seem to be making more of a return: Homer actually going to work and to Moe's, Marge being an unappreciated housewife who constantly works without being noticed(not some psychotic neat freak like in recent episodes), the kids going to school (despite that it was a field trip)...even "snuggling", which I don't think has been used in YEARS, made a return. Maybe some things were a little recycled, but I actually felt in some ways like I was watching an oldie, rather then the "oh geez, there's another pointless cameo of Stampy/Mary Bailey/Ruth Powers" etc feeling.

Verdict: I think this episode was problematic in some ways, mainly in the pacing and the lack of focus on one thing at a time, but in many ways it was also very encouraging. As it stands now, its not a classic by any means, but I think its actually a good step in the right direction, that makes me hope that season 15 will be better then I've been dreading.

Grade: B-

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode, (you know who you are)rather than posting the same Freakin long crap story of how i hate the episode, and i think they should stop. I think you should stop watching it if you dont like it, The only reason you watch it is because its still the BEST. Tonight was aother great episode (it helps when you watch the epsiode as a Simpsons fan, not a crtitic the whole orld became).
Im sure if the Internet was as common 10 years ago, half of you idiots would complain on every episode as well.Enjoy it, as were the lucky ones that can watch The Simpsons every week.
Ill be there same time next week, Sunday at 8:00pm

Always a fan
Al-Barto

Amen to the Simpsons

Rambling lunintic rambles...........

Anyways in Tonights main news

I found this to be quite an enjoyable episode. Loved the plot and teh songs. The Marge and Homer thing here was better then in 3 Gays and a Condo. 4.7/5 rounded to 5. For all people that take notes while watching, what the hell if your gonna do that atleast get paid. I mean The Simpsons are suppose to be a half hour of enterainment, not some damn science class.

[Tibor]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode... [blah blah blah]

Did it occur to you that raving over every fucking episode doesn't make you a fan, it makes you a sheep? You post your opinion in this thread, and if you didn't like it, post it.

You could be one of jphh's apostles....

In closing, go screw yourself and the horse you rode in on,

-luv Tibor

EDIT: Oh, yeah, and you pretty much summed up how I feel about tonight's ep, DtB. As a whole, it seems to fail at many points, but focusing on individual moments, I enjoyed it quite a bit.

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by DotheBartman
Hmmm...if ever an episode felt like it needed it retooling to truly succeed, it was this one. Its funny, reading some of SimpsonPurist's comments, because there were points where I really wondered if I was watching "Family Guy". Homer's flashback to the video store...the general disjointedness....weirdass jokes like flying penguins and fighting frogs that made no sense (and weren't funny in this case). I'd have to say, while I do have some positive things to say (and I'll get to them), this episode was tremendously flawed. First off, the disjointedness and fast pacing really was a big problem. The first act doesn't even include Marge. Save for her helping Skinner and a few other things she's excluded from the entire first act, which is just bad plotting/pacing. The entire first act was essentially useless, and just an excuse to showcase Homer's stupidity (admittingly some of it was funny), and have them go to an aquarium for some reason. The rest of the episode wasn't a whole lot better, and I didn't feel like they adequetely focused their time on the plot. It all went by fast, and again seemed to focus much more on Homer then Marge. And, of course, there were the weirdass jokes like the penguins, Homer's literaly burning off calories, etc that worked to spoil things. Just too many misfire jokes in general.

Then again, there was a lot to like, and that's why I particularly wish some retooling had gone into this. The story was generally basic and down to earth, and I liked some individual moments. Some of the emotion felt a little plastic, but for newer season standards a lot of it was actually fairly touching, especcially at the end. Not "Three Gays" touching, but touching nothenless. Much of the characterization, including Bart for once, but also the other characters, was generally very good. And even humorwise, I think there was a lot to like, despite all the misfires. The song I thought was (mostly) pretty funny, with even the guest star not being bad in that case (keep in mind, he wasn't really there, he just appeared in the childish way Homer would have him appear in a daydream). A lot of other moments, like at the psychiatrist, Dennis the Menace, Burns, etc had me laughing, or at least smiling. Heck, if you want to get really detailed in this, there were some classic elements that seem to be making more of a return: Homer actually going to work and to Moe's, Marge being an unappreciated housewife who constantly works without being noticed(not some psychotic neat freak like in recent episodes), the kids going to school (despite that it was a field trip)...even "snuggling", which I don't think has been used in YEARS, made a return. Maybe some things were a little recycled, but I actually felt in some ways like I was watching an oldie, rather then the "oh geez, there's another pointless cameo of Stampy/Mary Bailey/Ruth Powers" etc feeling.

Verdict: I think this episode was problematic in some ways, mainly in the pacing and the lack of focus on one thing at a time, but in many ways it was also very encouraging. As it stands now, its not a classic by any means, but I think its actually a good step in the right direction, that makes me hope that season 15 will be better then I've been dreading.

Grade: B-

DTBM! This is a very important moment! This is essentially what I was going to say about the episode. You and I have almost the exact same opinion on this episode! :D

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode, (you know who you are)rather than posting the same Freakin long crap story of how i hate the episode, and i think they should stop. I think you should stop watching it if you dont like it, The only reason you watch it is because its still the BEST. Tonight was aother great episode (it helps when you watch the epsiode as a Simpsons fan, not a crtitic the whole orld became).
Im sure if the Internet was as common 10 years ago, half of you idiots would complain on every episode as well.Enjoy it, as were the lucky ones that can watch The Simpsons every week.
Ill be there same time next week, Sunday at 8:00pm

Always a fan
Al-Barto

Amen to the Simpsons

Oh gee, you've really put us in our place! ;-/

Look, the reason most of us criticize is that we care. Many of the people who didn't like this episode have liked others this season. They care about the direction the show is going, they care if it entertains them or not. If it entertains them, they'll say so, if it didn't, they'll say that. Even the guy currently running the show (Al Jean) has said that prefers the fans provide some constructive criticism, and say when they don't like something, rather then just blindly saying "amen to the Simpsons" every week. And the reason some of the more critical of us still watch isn't neccasarily because "they're still the best" (although it might be with some people). Many of them are "always fans" and have a hard time giving up something that they at least used to love a lot, even if they in some cases aren't consistantly enjoying it.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Tomacco
DTBM! This is a very important moment! This is essentially what I was going to say about the episode. You and I have almost the exact same opinion on this episode! :D

:-O Holy....

[Tibor]

If DtB can enjoy this, anyone can... Except for FarscapeR.

[Tomacco]

There were a couple of glaring animation screw-ups in the ep, though. Two within about 5 seconds happened when Homer walks by Moe's. Moe's hair is black, and after Homer walks past him it turns grey. Then in a close-up, the bar door is open, but in the wide shot, it's closed. But I guess it doesn't matter much.

[Mayor Quimby]

And NoOneFamous

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Tomacco
DTBM! This is a very important moment! This is essentially what I was going to say about the episode. You and I have almost the exact same opinion on this episode! :D

Gasp! DTB! Come back to the dark side!!!

J/K...
"Unfortunately," as with last week, exams will prevent me from catching this one. In the meantime, feel free to peruse the reruns of my reviews from the Springfield Files/Archive/You know what I mean...

[Kang&Kodos]

I thought this was one of the best episodes this season. The plot, gags and lines came at perhaps too fast a pace, but still I dug it.
Between Milhouse getting beaten for choosing the nurse shark, Lisa discovering the flying penguins, the Crazy Texas oil baron's appearance, the marine life stored in plastic bags full of water, Bart getting hammered by the Hammerhead, Homer's mexican hat dance around his ringing cell phone, Homer's black power salute, Comic Book guy unable to drive 55, Wiggum chasing Ralph on tricycle, Burns giving walking a try, and the Peruvian Fighting frogs I barely had time to fully enjoy each joke/gag/line.

Best lines from the episode:
"Public transportation is for jerks and lesbians."
"Pssst. Bishop to queen 4." "We're playing dominoes." "I said bishop to queen 4!"

[Tomacco]

"Y'wanna know how to make a peach crumble? Kick it in the groin. Ha! Anyhow, what's going on?"

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Tomacco
There were a couple of glaring animation screw-ups in the ep, though. Two within about 5 seconds happened when Homer walks by Moe's. Moe's hair is black, and after Homer walks past him it turns grey. Then in a close-up, the bar door is open, but in the wide shot, it's closed. But I guess it doesn't matter much.

Also, when Bart says something like "five more minutes", his cast is gone. I thought at first that there was a hidden joke there, that Homer had taken so long his arm had already healed, but it reappeared a shot later.

Another thing I wanted to mention was the use of the townspeople. In previous episodes certain side characters kept getting too much screentime (like Cletus and Moe...who admittingly was here, but I don't see why everyone hated his appearance this time), and seemed to show up for mostly random reasons, but in this case most of them were used well, there were a lot of them without it getting too overbearing to watch, and the uses tended to make more logical sense.

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by DotheBartman
Also, when Bart says something like "five more minutes", his cast is gone. I thought at first that there was a hidden joke there, that Homer had taken so long his arm had already healed, but it reappeared a shot later.

Another thing I wanted to mention was the use of the townspeople. In previous episodes certain side characters kept getting too much screentime (like Cletus and Moe...who admittingly was here, but I don't see why everyone hated his appearance this time), and seemed to show up for mostly random reasons, but in this case most of them were used well, there were a lot of them without it getting too overbearing to watch, and the uses tended to make more logical sense.

You, my friend, are reading my mind tonight. My next post was going to be as follows:

This episode was a good demonstration of Springfield as a whole. Different locations in town were shown, and MANY secondary characters got screentime. From my memory, the following characters got time: Apu, Manjula, the Flanders family, Comic Book Guy, Skinner, Krabappel, Milhouse, Jimbo, Kerney, Dolph, Nelson, Wiggum, Ralph, Moe, Lenny, Carl, Burns, Smithers, Patty, Selma, Disco Stu, Barney, plus some extra new characters.

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode, (you know who you are)rather than posting the same Freakin long crap story of how i hate the episode, and i think they should stop. I think you should stop watching it if you dont like it, The only reason you watch it is because its still the BEST. Tonight was aother great episode (it helps when you watch the epsiode as a Simpsons fan, not a crtitic the whole orld became).
Im sure if the Internet was as common 10 years ago, half of you idiots would complain on every episode as well.Enjoy it, as were the lucky ones that can watch The Simpsons every week.
Ill be there same time next week, Sunday at 8:00pm
Amen to the Simpsons
Ok, 'n00b. Number one, nobody gives a shit about what you have to say. Sorry, but nobody is going to take a member with 2 posts that bash people on the forum seriously. Number 2, this is a REVIEW thread. Meaning, you give the episode the grade you thought it deserves, not give it an A simply because its the Simpsons. I hate people like you who think the show can do no wrong. I bet you love Simpson Safari too. The Simpsons could do an episode thats 23 minutes of Homer eating chips, and you'd praise it. News flash, loving every episode doesn't make you a fan, it just makes you a mindless moron, like they said above.

Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
And NoOneFamous
Why? Just because i don't like a few episodes doesn't mean I didn't like ANY of the new ones. I mean look at my sig: I've liked or at least enjoyed about 70% of this season's episodes.

[|RABiD|]

Pretty good reviews. So tomacco, whats ur grade for this episode?

[HomertheGreat]

I enjoyed it. Sure there were the lame gags, and the first act sucked but it became better as it went along. I thought the song was excellent and it lead up to the third act very well with Homer not paying attention and getting hit. The third act was one of the best of the season IMO. The party in the backyard was very good except for the Jackson Browne guest-spot. But other than that it had nice emotion and I loved Homer's last line of "Get the hell off my lawn!"

GRADE: B/B- (probably leaning towards a B-)

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by |RABiD|
Pretty good reviews. So tomacco, whats ur grade for this episode?

It might change, but I would say 3/5 seems fair to me right now.

[Jolly Bengali]

From my site - This episode is probably one of the hardest ones I've ever seen in terms of reviewing. On the one hand, for some strange reason, I wanted to hate this episode as I watching it - in it is pretty much every problem with the show in recent years. Two incredibly stupid and pointless guest stars, a bunch of gags that went on too long (laughing and crying, for one), a meandering plot with no real central point, and two musical numbers that lacked the confidence and self-decrapation of the earlier classics. Plus, looking back, it really didn't make sense in a lot of places, humor, plot, or emotionally wise. Yet as much as I wanted to hate this episode, and as much as I realize that I shouldn't even have found anything positive in it, a few of the jokes were funny. The slapstick of Homer getting hit by a car mid-song, a few of the lines from the Sea Captain, and the ending bit with Homer getting everyone off his lawn actually made me laugh. And it's really suprising for me, to experience so many smiles in a Simpsons episode. However, I really can't get over the huge amount of problems with the episode, and they overshadow the flashes of humor it had. It could have been a lot better... but it could have been worse too. Grade: C-

Basically agree with Tomacco, as usual. :)

[Eddie]

Wow! Great episode! A very nice plot, with three well-put together acts. Everything was put together evenly and it wasn't disjointed. It was very funny, and made great use of many characters (Disco Stu, Rich Texan, Ralph, Moe, etc.). I loved Homer's "I Love to Walk" song, and I enjoyed the quick guest star roles. The animation was good, too. It wasn't as sloppy as some of the earlier episodes this season. The only bad thing was that it reminded me of way too many other episodes: "The Mysterious Voyage of Homer," "A Milhouse Divided," "Bart's Comet," "King of the Hill," etc. Not as good as "Special Edna" or "Large Marge", but I still enjoyed it for the most part. A pleasant suprise. 4/5

[Tibor]

On second viewing...

This doesn't really seem all that disjointed. Bart gets hurt forcing Homer to get a cellphone which causes him to have an accident, Marge is forced to drive, marital difficulties ensue. In any case, it seemed to flow organically. Outside of a few weak/dragged out or stupid gags, the humor in this is really solid.

What I'd have changed:

There were probably better ways of putting Bart in the hospital besides being beaten up by fish. Instead of Homer getting all the crazy stuff in his car, just make him have a wreck because of his cellphone- it would have been nice commentary on jerks who can't drive because they're always on their phone (there was some of that in there anyway). Lindsay Naegle coming from nowhere? No, just go to the store and get the damn phone.

Some side notes:

Willy driving his tractor (last seen in Whacking Day, no?) and a sober Barney. They also more or less gave Springfield's "location" in the musical number. If I got out a map, I could point out a state, but it was in the midwest.

[Al-barto]

I havent submitted 2 posts, I have re signed in.
I have posted several hundred over the years, but lost interest in the dimwit remarks that keep repeating

NEWS FLASH: THE SIMPSONS LAUGH AT YOUR POSTS, AS THEY MENTIONED IT ON THERE OWN EPISODES

STATE YOUR OPINION, ILL STATE MINE
.
THE SIMPSONS FOREVER RULE !!!!!!!
Tonights episode was great, KEEP IT UP !

[Tibor]

Don't tell me Channel Surfer missed this one...

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous
Ok, 'n00b. Number one, nobody gives a shit about what you have to say. Sorry, but nobody is going to take a member with 2 posts that bash people on the forum seriously. Number 2, this is a REVIEW thread. Meaning, you give the episode the grade you thought it deserves, not give it an A simply because its the Simpsons. I hate people like you who think the show can do no wrong. I bet you love Simpson Safari too. The Simpsons could do an episode thats 23 minutes of Homer eating chips, and you'd praise it. News flash, loving every episode doesn't make you a fan, it just makes you a mindless moron, like they said above.


Why? Just because i don't like a few episodes doesn't mean I didn't like ANY of the new ones. I mean look at my sig: I've liked or at least enjoyed about 70% of this season's episodes.

OK, WITH THAT SAID, UM..... GO SUCK A LEMON

[chumpbender]

I am going to be nice an give it a 3, at some points it seemed like a 4, and others it seemed like a 2. Some bad jokes, some good, some that just didnt work. It ended pretty well, but I didnt like the french joke, getting sick of all the france bashing. All in all an ok ep, but mostly forgettable. 3/5

[Jamie]

This episode was quite disjointed... what is this episode about? Homer getting into shape, marriage troubles, or six more plots randomly thrown together? And not 1 but 2 goddamned songs. The third act seem pretty contrived. Jesus's "Meet me in Montana" letter was the high point of this episode. 2/5

[used]

mixed feeling, loved a lot of the jokes (Homer and Kids walking while Marge was inside, Homer turning on sprinkler, and a few others). But I hated the re-used plot, and the emotion was average. 2.5/5, perfectly half-good.

[Handsome Pete]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I havent submitted 2 posts, I have re signed in.
I have posted several hundred over the years, but lost interest in the dimwit remarks that keep repeating

NEWS FLASH: THE SIMPSONS LAUGH AT YOUR POSTS, AS THEY MENTIONED IT ON THERE OWN EPISODES

STATE YOUR OPINION, ILL STATE MINE
.
THE SIMPSONS FOREVER RULE !!!!!!!
Tonights episode was great, KEEP IT UP !

Look, Al-barto, it's hard to take your opinion seriously if you don't give any real insight into why you liked this episode. I can usually respect people's opinions on an episode if they state why they did or didn't like it. I don't really see you doing things like this, and as a result, I cannot respect what you think.

Also, most of us do not hate the show. We merely post here to tell other fans what we did or didn't like about the show. I for one do not hate it right now; in fact, I believe the Simpsons has seen a real turn-around in quality lately. I'm sure that if I were to watch episodes from "the golden ages" when they were new, I could find things that I didn't like. I just didn't happen to be very fond of this particular episode.

Basically, we have our own opinions here. We are not sheep that instantly state that "It's better than everything else on TV!", or "Al Jean is God!" Childish name calling isn't very effective in you trying to tell us that we have no right to complain about episodes, and that we should enjoy every moment that's on screen. That's simply not the case here, and if I were you, I would try to understand what we really feel when we say that we didn't like something.

[lindsay]

3/5
There were some good and bad stuff in this episode. I didn't really enjoy the first act. At first i was like, oh yay! s field trip, we haven't had one in a while. But then the gags were just lame.

My favorite act was the second. The jokes in it just flowed well. I like homer's walking song. Also i loved mr. burns in this episode. The whole scene w/ him was really funny. I also thought when homer walked all the way to moe's and then turned around and could see his house and the family waving to him. I know they've kinda done this joke before like with the snpp parking lot right by the house, but that joke always makes me laugh.

Act 3 was pretty good. I probably would have liked it better if it wasn't so much like 3 gays and a condo, but other than that the jokes were pretty good.

[Al-barto]

Understood, But then my statement originally was not inteded to you.Its intended to those that say "i think tonight was lame, stupid jokes, the simpsons should really end for real"
Its ok to hate 1 episode , and stating why.
I just said i liked tonights, I laughed out loud
What i liked :
Plenty, Barts ass posing as a pearl, Homer s carelessness, the good ending, and yeah, I did like the flow. It made GREAT semse , watch a second time if you must

Al-Barto

[okayagain]

I didn't like this episode. The story was just everywhere, there weren't many good jokes (but I did enjoy the few: "Dude, meet me in Montana!:LOL:), and the whole "Homer and Marge's relationship" plot doesn't seem so special after Three Gays of the Condo. Somehow I have a hard time believing that she'd make up with Homer THAT quickly thanks to a party. Pretty much every scene from this episode was stale (Mexican hat dance? Ugh. Video store? Ugh. Doctor Hotdog? Saw it coming.), although things seemed better when Homer discovered the joys of walking (maybe it was my imagination).

I couldn't really find anything to like in this episode. 2/5

EDIT: Gotta remember to keep an eye out for when Homer drives again, I'm sure that 'license revoked' thing will be forgotten soon...

[Handsome Pete]

Originally posted by Al-barto
Understood, But then my statement originally was not inteded to you.Its intended to those that say "i think tonight was lame, stupid jokes, the simpsons should really end for real"
Its ok to hate 1 episode , and stating why.
I just said i liked tonights, I laughed out loud
What i liked :
Plenty, Barts ass posing as a pearl, Homer s carelessness, the good ending, and yeah, I did like the flow. It made GREAT semse , watch a second time if you must

Al-Barto

Yeah, I know it wasn't intended towards me, but I just wanted to set the record straight. Some of the people here are very devoted fans toward the show, and anything they don't like will easily upset them. Personally, I think they get more annoyed than they should. It is a TV show after all, albeit a favorite to most everyone here. Everything said here just shouldn't be taken at face value.

And thanks for understanding what I said. I don't try to offend anyone here or shove what I feel is right down their throats; I just try to make sure they understand the situation enough. I may disagree on certain points, but at least I try to understand why they feel that way. Your opinion is validated now, by the way.

[homer5000]

Wow. I loved this one. (BTW, my belated reply is due to Malcolm being actually intresting for once)

The musical numbers were great (I seriously think they just want to make a new CD for more money), and all the jokes were very Family Guy-ish. Which isn't a bad thing. Why? Because I also adore Family Guy. Unlike previous attempts, this meets FG's expectations.

Being very fast paced, great jokes ("Dude, Meet Me In Montana XOXOXOXO, Jesus", Dennis the Menace parody) and just plain great.

Trust me, this will become one of the show's greatest "guilty pleasures" episodes. 5/5

EDIT: Did anyone notice Homer's walking suit was the same as Coach Lugash's (from "Mayored to the Mob" and "Little Girl In the Big Ten")?

2nd EDIT: The guy above me will be gone in about one hour...

[DotheBartman]

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[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I think most you guys are just screwed up. You post the most LAMEST posts ever. Why dont you just SHUT UP if you dont like the episode, (you know who you are)rather than posting the same Freakin long crap story of how i hate the episode, and i think they should stop. I think you should stop watching it if you dont like it, The only reason you watch it is because its still the BEST.

No, Futurama is/was 'the BEST' and being a Simpsons fan goes beyond turning off your brain, sitting on the couch and feeling your ass grow.

Anyway, this episode is all over the place like others have said (not automatically bad), but there wasn't anything to really find very funny or very unfunny. The whole thing was boring.

Another 'meh' episode: 3/5

Jake

[Al-barto]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jake
[B]No, Futurama is/was 'the BEST' and being a Simpsons fan goes beyond turning off your brain, sitting on the couch and feeling your ass grow.

Ok then...whatever
Good, but it doesnt belong in anycategory with the Simpsons, maybe to you and a few others, but do not insult the Simpsons that way

[Channel Surfer]

Originally posted by Tibor
Don't tell me Channel Surfer missed this one...

No, I watched it. Just took me awhile before I got online.

As for myself, I have to agree with pretty much everyone here about this episode's disjointed feel. It really was all over the place, with the first act starting with the aquarium scenes, which lead to Bart's injury. From there, the family waits for Homer, who apparently was delayed because he was searching for a video (the flashback was overdone). Then, Homer gets a cell phone to keep tabs on things, and then later fills his car to the brim with stuff, where upon he drives into a lake.

And that's just the first act. :-O Don't get me started on Marge developing a subconscious desire to kill Homer, which is quickly resolved by having a big backyard dinner (and people say the conflict in "War of the Simpsons" resolves too abruptly).

Now, I could handle disjointedness if the tangents themselves were interesting. But Lisa noticing the penguins flying, the video store scene, and Bart and Milhouse's frog's fighting were just bad jokes, and were unnecessarily long and distracting too. The first act in particular seemed to have these problems, and I can honestly say I don't remember anything memorable in it.

There were some humorous points though, like the allusion to "Dennis the Menace", the marriage counseling, the walking song, Homer's French comment, as well as a few other brief moments. And none of the bad stuff was offensively bad either. But with an uninteresting, jumpy conflict, and several lame jokes (with not enough good ones to compensate), this episode can only go so far.

Grade: C

[homer5000]

Originally posted by Al-barto
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jake
[B]No, Futurama is/was 'the BEST' and being a Simpsons fan goes beyond turning off your brain, sitting on the couch and feeling your ass grow.

Ok then...whatever
Good, but it doesnt belong in anycategory with the Simpsons, maybe to you and a few others, but do not insult the Simpsons that way

He wasn't insulting the Simpsons. I'm pretty sure he was insulting you...

[Al-barto]

How was he insulting me???
He replied to my post which stated the Simpsons is the best by responding Futurama is.

Thanks for you dim witted response though

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Pinky18
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[Moleman...Hans]

Originally posted by Jake
No, Futurama is/was 'the BEST' and being a Simpsons fan goes beyond turning off your brain, sitting on the couch and feeling your ass grow.

Anyway, this episode is all over the place like others have said (not automatically bad), but there wasn't anything to really find very funny or very unfunny. The whole thing was boring.

Another 'meh' episode: 3/5

Jake

I agree with you totally that Futurama is the best. What I don't agree with you is the the 3/5 thing. This episode was much more horrible. 2/5. Was this supposed to be funny? There were only 3 or 4 things I liked. And it had the basic same plot as Three Gays!

[davidshirt]

Man, did this episode set a record for having a gag in almost every single scene?

I didn't care much for this episode. It just seemed to have pacing that was way too fast.

I kind of liked the ending though.

[Max Power]

Pretty good...needs more Buscemi. 4/5

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto

Ok then...whatever
Good, but it doesnt belong in anycategory with the Simpsons, maybe to you and a few others, but do not insult the Simpsons that way [/B]

Lets see...

Futurama is animated
The Simpsons is animated

Futurama is a comedy
The Simpsons is a comedy

Futurama has great stories and characters
The Simpsons has great stories and characters

Futurama is a great satire
The Simpsons is a great satire

Futurama is created by Matt Groening
The Simpsons is created by Matt Groening

That's just for starters. What's that about them not fitting in any categories together?

You can like Futurama more, and it doesn't make you a bad Simpsons fan. Personally, I gave tonight's Simpsons a pretty good review, and enjoyed it on the whole, but Futurama beats the crap out of it. That doesn't mean I'm not a fan of The Simpsons, it just means I like Futurama more.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jake
[B]
Ok then...whatever
Good, but [Futurama] doesnt belong in any category with the Simpsons, maybe to you and a few others, but do not insult the Simpsons that way

Both The Simpsons and Futurama are TV shows, but more importantly, The Simpsons is not some objective, pristine, almighty deity that's above anyone's criticisms, including mine and otheres who post here.

For a person who thrives on pointing out 'dimwit comments', you really haven't said much that's not dimwitted itself.

[Maddog53]

I have to say that I really enjoyed this episode. I didn't find it disjointed at all (watch Dude, Where's My Ranch for that). I ended up giving this a 4/5. One of the best of the season, IMO. READ MY REVIEW HERE!!!!! (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-146/epid-201913/blockid-97961/)

Maddog.

[Mike Scully]

I found I could agree with DoTheBartman and Tibor's reviews, that some of the individual jokes and scenes were funny and clever (I won't bother repeating them), but the whole episode was rambly and uninteresting. However, I would only give such an episode a C grade. In the end, all I could ask myself "Wow, what was the point of all this?" That's not good enough for The Simpsons, even in the later seasons.

There's one aspect that I quite admired about this episode: it deals with the "Marge become homicidal" plot much, much, much, much, much, much better than in It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad Marge. In that regard, this episode was way more subtle and more interesting, without having to resort to an appalling scene in which Marge attempts murder.

But any momentum built in the second act when Marge runs over Homer fizzles out in the end when Homer (yawn) throws a party for Marge. That's it. No irony. No depth. Nothing insightful to say about their marriage. And it dragged on and on. I much preferred the touching and insightful ending in this season's much better Three Gays of the Condo.

Overall, some of the jokes were good, and the characters were likeable, but the whole episode had an empty, mainstream feel to it. Grade: C/C-

[Maddog53]

I have to say that I do not understand the criticism of the plot being disjointed. I could see if you were talking about the last couple of minutes where they breezed by the party outside, but other than that I thought that the plot flowed pretty well:

Bart and Lisa are on field trip.
Bart gets injured.
At hospital Marge doesn't have insurance, can't get hold of Homer.
Homer shows up, Marge wants to get cell phone.
Homer gets cell phone, but is distracted and gets in an acciedent.
License is revoked.
Marge has to drive him places and starts to feel unappreciated.
Homer decides to start walking.
He sees the benefits and continues walking.
Gets run over by Marge.
While recovering Marge blows up at Homer because she feels unappreciated.
They seeks conseling.
Counselor tells Homer what to do.
Homer throws a party in honor of Marge.
Marge forgives Homer.

I think it is pretty basic. It is a story about the relationship between Marge and Homer. Correct me if I am wrong...

Maddog.

[Channel Surfer]

Originally posted by Maddog53
I have to say that I do not understand the criticism of the plot being disjointed. I could see if you were talking about the last couple of minutes where they breezed by the party outside, but other than that I thought that the plot flowed pretty well:

Bart and Lisa are on field trip.
Bart gets injured.
At hospital Marge doesn't have insurance, can't get hold of Homer.
Homer shows up, Marge wants to get cell phone.
Homer gets cell phone, but is distracted and gets in an acciedent.
License is revoked.
Marge has to drive him places and starts to feel unappreciated.
Homer decides to start walking.
He sees the benefits and continues walking.
Gets run over by Marge.
While recovering Marge blows up at Homer because she feels unappreciated.
They seeks conseling.
Counselor tells Homer what to do.
Homer throws a party in honor of Marge.
Marge forgives Homer.

I think it is pretty basic. It is a story about the relationship between Marge and Homer. Correct me if I am wrong...

Maddog.

Well, you can't be wrong necessarily, but I did find the plot flow to be a bit iffy. For instance, for the first act, the plot points would be...

Bart and Lisa are on field trip.
Bart gets injured.
At hospital Marge doesn't have insurance, can't get hold of Homer.
Homer shows up, Marge wants to get cell phone.
Homer gets cell phone, but is distracted and gets in an accident.

The first two plot points do little to further the main plot, and the basic idea of Homer and Marge's relationship being strained is barely noticeable (only in that Marge couldn't get in touch with Homer after Bart's accident). Then, a lot of time is spent with Homer playing around with the cell phone, ending with him falling into the pier. Nothing later comes of Bart's accident.

Marge has to drive him places and starts to feel unappreciated.
Homer decides to start walking.
He sees the benefits and continues walking.
Gets run over by Marge.

Much better then act one, but this act has little relation to act one, which is a problem. My issue here is that too much time is spent developing Marge's homicidal tendencies and Homer's walking with little coming of it. Instead, the act devotes much of its time to working its gags, like the walking song. They're funny enough, but there's no plot development during these scenes. As for the conflict, much of it is kept internal with Marge, aside from maybe the scene where Homer takes the kids walking, leaving Marge behind. Which is fine in some ways, considering that she lashes out in the third act, but again, too much time is spent developing this internal conflict, considering how much time was wasted in both act one and act two with its numerous gags (or perhaps too much time was devoted to pointless gags). The only major thing that happens is the abrupt end of this act, when she "accidentally" runs him down, creating what seems like yet another plot for the final act. The walking plotline is also quickly dropped in act three, with no conclusion to Homer's loss of his driving privileges.

While recovering Marge blows up at Homer because she feels unappreciated.
They seek counseling.
Counselor tells Homer what to do.
Homer throws a party in honor of Marge.
Marge forgives Homer.

I like that this ties into the conflict introduced in the second act, but because so much of act two dealt more with gags then plot, the way Marge's growing hatred of Homer is introduced seems like a new plotline, and the third act itself seems rushed in ways. Consider how fast Homer fines a solution to Marge's growing problem (the counselor tells Homer what to do), and how long the solution plays out. It doesn't help that, like Mike Scully already said, that there wasn't anything insightful said about their marriage either. So this act has problems too.

Hope this makes my complaints a bit clearer. Nice review BTW.

[Simpsonite]

Originally posted by J.Re*
Dude,
Meet me in Montana
XOXOXO,
Jesus

5/5 LOL, That was probably the funniest scene in tonights episode! (I'm laughing as I'm posting) :LOL: Flanders is so easy to prank on!

....ahem...anyway... I thought this episode was up there with "SPECIAL EDNA".The plot was very interesting. Lots of funny gags,(the Penguins flying and stopping as soon as Lisa opened the door,kinda reminded me of a FAMILY GUY EPISODE). The ending line by Homer is definetley classic. Steve Buscemi cameo was funny,eventhough I'm totally against pointless cameos). Homer in the video store got a little annoying after awhile,but I tolerated it. Homer's song gave me a few chuckles,but wasn't as hilarious as earlier episode songs have been.(I hope they DON'T make it a habit to put a song in every ep. now.) Overall, the story line was fun and enjoyable,I liked it. 4/5 is my vote. :) :D


Oh..By the way, "PINKY18", You're walking on thin ice! We don't like stupid posts like that in here! (You've done that in several other threads) JUST QUIT IT!! :angry: :angry:

[Ignatius J. Reilly]

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[Sorrydude]

0/5. No laughs. Pathetic. I wonder why I still watch this show.

[Maddog53]

In response to Channel Surfer, I can totally see where you are coming from, however I have to respectively disagree. First off, act one rarely has anything to do with the entire episode as a whole, so I usually don't have a problem with that. I truly thought that all the gags were made to fit the plot and not the other way around which is why I dislike Dude, Where's My Ranch so much. I think what the problem is, is that I found the gags to be funny, whereas you didn't. That's fine, but you're going to run into a difference of opinion when that happens. I'll greatly defend this episode because I enjoyed it so much. I enjoy reading your responses, it's good to have a counterpoint at times.

BTW, what did you think about the previews for next weeks double header?

Maddog.

[doyle]

Originally posted by Sorrydude
0/5. No laughs. Pathetic. I wonder why I still watch this show. i wonder what it takes to make you laugh

[noeleon]

pinky18 makes an interesting point

discuss people

[pigvomit]

I was suprised they kept in Bart's remark about chewimg off his arm in light of the hitchhiker having to do the same in real life recently.

And the Global wordholes didn't even show the Simpsons last night. They showed the Survivor special instead. They could of easily scheduled it at 7pm but the showed a rerunt instead. Better watch for the Global schedule for next Sunday.

[Mayor Quimby]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous

Why? Just because i don't like a few episodes doesn't mean I didn't like ANY of the new ones. I mean look at my sig: I've liked or at least enjoyed about 70% of this season's episodes.

Recently you have had nothing good to say about any of the episodes. Also it amazes me how you can make The Simpsons into a chore by taking notes.

[Wavy Gravy]

This was another good/great episode. A nice start (despite a recycled gag from 2F11 "Bart's Comet"), and a good setup to the main plot. I agree, Judge Harm seems to be more present in the show, but I guess she's needed when punishments are more extreme. Marge's driving scenes and Homer's walking scenes were funny (even the musical number, which had a very funny ending). A sudden left turn in the 3rd act, but it still had a nice payoff in the end, which I really enjoyed. Overall, good characterization and some memorable one-liners make this another Season 14 winner. 4/5.

[Peacefrog22]

Extremely disappointing ep. Not very funny, too many small plotlines instead of one or two big ones. It started out well, but then it felt like they kept changing what the main plot was going to be. Tacked on moments for the guest stars. Why do they keep having these eps. that have no real solid plot. IMO, they need to choose one plot instead of five mini-eps brought into one. 2/5.

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
Recently you have had nothing good to say about any of the episodes. Also it amazes me how you can make The Simpsons into a chore by taking notes. Alright, let me define my "note taking." I have the computer right next to the TV, so I open notepad and write down the jokes that I liked a lot and some stuff that I hated so I can remember it later. I know I'm not the only one on here that does this. Its not like I'm writing down an in-depth analysis either.

In response to Maddog53's outline of the plot... that all flows.. I guess. But the problem is that no 22 minute episode should ever have *that* much in it. A good plot should have the main conflict/theme/story apparent by the end of the first act or beginning of the second, stick to that, and resolve it at the end. Not throw a ton of twists in between. Even Family Guy, which was always fast paced with twists, still had a plot that it stuck to and you could follow. Whoever said this would work better as a couple episodes was right.

[Gummi de Milo]

Meh.


What's the deal with the actual plot not making an appearance until the thir act? Strong Arms of Ma (Played at 7 PM) also had that structure....


I can't say I actually remember anything from the episode. Some of the stuff I do remember (after reading some posts here), ther were a few funny parts. but nothing memorable.


Over-all: 2/5.


Next week's episode looks good, but looks a bit ripped-off from the Junior Camper's Episode.

[jdholman]

A steady stream of unfunny gags and jokes, with some that went on forever. Plot was a combintion of rehashed marital difficulties, taped-on guest appearances, and a speedy conflict resolution.

There were some amusing throw away moments which made me laugh so I didn't completely dislike it.

Here we go.

The Good
Flanders' Jesus Letter with train ride
Homer's "Chakka Khan" bit
(I actually liked the Peruvian fighting frogs)
The Sea Captain's curse on Marge
Ralphie & Chief Wiggum's police car and tricycle gag
Homer picturing the marriage councilor as a hot dog and calling him "Dr. Hotdog".

The Bad
Aquarium guide was not funny with his "Shut Up" stuff
Cell phone saleswoman is annoying. This goes for when she is an advertising exec or a TV network producer or Hollywood-type. Just annoying.
Mexican Hat dance was too long
Video store gag was grossly too long
Homer's unnecessary song
Marge's Homer-cidal tendancies
The whole town turning out for Marge's banquet. (Two weeks in a row of "All of Springfield in one scene"?)
Mr. Wilson asking for a divorce and Mrs. Wilson's response - not funny

I don't think I'll remember this one long. Definitely a "meh".

[Citizen Kang]

4/5 - Was with a bunch of friends while watching. Didn't pay full attention.

[Sorrydude]

Originally posted by dondelinger
i wonder what it takes to make you laugh

Not much...something funny for one thing. Outside of the note Homer left for Flanders, I didn't smile once. And if the note was the funniest thing I could find...well, it's either me or them. If it's me, cool. If it's them, they're making way too much money to be writing drivel like that.

[kupomog]

3/5. The first act put me to sleep, the second act was no better, but the third act was my favorite because I felt it had the best jokes and also because it was the last. I disliked the musical numbers, and most likely will dislike all upcoming musical numbers. Surprisingly, Lindsey Naegle's appearance made me a little bit happy, but I just love the Mexican Hat Dance. The "Save me Chaka Khan" (I think that's what he said, I wasn't paying close attention) line had me laughing at first. But it just seems stupid now. I'm in a spot where I either want to watch the episode again or I just wish they would've just played "Strong Arms of Ma" twice last night...

[brentholomew]

4/5 , Fantastic Ending

[Dennis]

This was a great episode! The only problem is the fact that there is a song in almost every episode!! 4/5.

[Crotis Jivefunk]

3.5/5

[Al-barto]

The shows are ALOT more funny when you dont take notes
Just watch and enjoy, rather than looking for whats not funny
Pretend there is no computer next to your tv, just watch the show as you would if it were 1992, and its just as DAMN good.

Also, Futurama is in no category like the simpsons DIMWITS, or it would be highly viewed, would have a real timeslot, and would last 13 years.
Sure there both cartoons, but 1 is highly unrealistic (futurama) , while the Simpsons doesnt seem like a cartoon at all, and can be compared to Seinfeld
Think before you type Futurama fans (dont get me wrong, it a good show, but not great or better than the simpsons)

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
Recently you have had nothing good to say about any of the episodes. Also it amazes me how you can make The Simpsons into a chore by taking notes.

Very true indeed. Everyone hates about 70% of the episodes if you look back
And As I said earlier, if the internet forums were around in 1992, 70% would have hated older classic episodes, and it would have probably resulted in the Simpsons not being around

Its ok to hate certain parts or jokes, but come on, to give every episode a 3 average is quite sickening to see.
You all mention the bad points, just focus on the good and laugh a little
Wheres your sense of humor?
Tonight had a great flow as well, so much happened in 23 minutes, but it all made sense (to most of us at least ;)

[Andy]

Stop calling members of this board dimwits, Al-barto. We accept your opinions already, so I'm hoping you can start accepting ours as well.

Deal?

[Gummi de Milo]

While I do recall not liking the show around season 5, the episodes did grow on me after repeated viewing. Now I liek it just as much as any other season during The Good Years.

Now? I've seen quite a few of the episodes I've hated a couple times. They're just bas bad as they were the first time I saw them. Maybe the good gags have gotten funnier in them, but still duds overall.

Maybe the past few seasons will get better with more viewing, but I dobut it. the writing's way too sloppy to be good for more than a short period of time.

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Al-barto
The shows are ALOT more funny when you don't take notes
Just watch and enjoy, rather than looking for whats not funny
Pretend there is no computer next to your tv, just watch the show as you would if it were 1992, and its just as DAMN good.

Also, Futurama is in no category like the simpsons DIMWITS, or it would be highly viewed, would have a real timeslot, and would last 13 years.
Sure there both cartoons, but 1 is highly unrealistic (futurama) , while the Simpsons doesnt seem like a cartoon at all, and can be compared to Seinfeld
Think before you type Futurama fans (dont get me wrong, it a good show, but not great or better than the simpsons)

Don't tell me (or anyone else on this forum) what to do. Theres nothing wrong with writing down a few jokes that you liked/didn't like - like I said, its not like I'm taking in depth notes & commentary while watching the episodes. You are a fucking sheep to the Simpsons, and its morons like you who worship whatever shit they turn out these days that keep it at the low quality it is. If you honestly think that its as good now as it was in season 2 and there is no change, then you, my friend, do not understand the show at all. Sure, it WAS once realistic like Seinfeld, but it hasn't been like that since Season 11, unless you think balls of rolling people, horse jockey elves, meeting a celebrity every day for no apparent reason (other than ratings) and completely overblown, unrealistic, hyperactive plots is realistic.
Its ok to hate certain parts or jokes, but come on, to give every episode a 3 average is quite sickening to see.
Sorry, just accept the fact that not everyone on here is going to worship whatever the show puts out like you. I've given more As Bs, and C grades than Ds and Fs this season, so just because I haven't liked the last 3 episodes doesn't mean I hate all the new ones.

Wheres your sense of humor?We save it for stuff that is actually funny, rather than forcing our minds to think "its on the Simpsons, therefore it MUST be funny! HAHAHA!"

[Gummi de Milo]

Well, I do agree that if you just watch the show, as is, you might enjoy it more. And he wasn't telling you what to do, but actually giving you a good suggestion.


it's like reading a book for school. You won't enjoy it because you have to do work associated with it, but if you read it on your own, you'll enjoy it more.

That said, the quality of the last 4 seasons is really bad. No way around it. I love the show, but the new stuff is definately not that good. However, taking notes about What's Funny or What's not Funny is the Star Trek equivalent of debating whether Kirk is better than Picard.

[Tibor]

Does listing jokes you did/didn't like truly give you a better sense of objectivity when rating the humor of a show? I don't really think so, because a) I can forget jokes that simply didn't work when it is outweighed by the good stuff and b) it isn't a good idea to measure it quantitatively, i.e. 3 good jokes < 5 bad jokes, so the humor was bad. Because you might have enjoyed the three good jokes much more than you disliked the five bad.

The fallicy in this is the same as in my grading system, as Channel Surfer pointed out: In trying to be even handed and boil it down to what you really think, you may betray your original intention.

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by NoOneFamous
Don't tell me (or anyone else on this forum) what to do. Theres nothing wrong with writing down a few jokes that you liked/didn't like - like I said, its not like I'm taking in depth notes & commentary while watching the episodes. You are a fucking sheep to the Simpsons, and its morons like you who worship whatever shit they turn out these days that keep it at the low quality it is. If you honestly think that its as good now as it was in season 2 and there is no change, then you, my friend, do not understand the show at all. Sure, it WAS once realistic like Seinfeld, but it hasn't been like that since Season 11, unless you think balls of rolling people, horse jockey elves, meeting a celebrity every day for no apparent reason (other than ratings) and completely overblown, unrealistic, hyperactive plots is realistic.

Sorry, just accept the fact that not everyone on here is going to worship whatever the show puts out like you. I've given more As Bs, and C grades than Ds and Fs this season, so just because I haven't liked the last 3 episodes doesn't mean I hate all the new ones.

We save it for stuff that is actually funny, rather than forcing our minds to think "its on the Simpsons, therefore it MUST be funny! HAHAHA!"

Also, dont tell me what to do by telling me to not tell you what to do (Im sure you lost me, i lost myself there LOL)
I can say whatever i want by the way
Im not telling you what to do MORON. Im trying to help, stop being a critic because you dont know any better. Yeah, i hate the fact Jockey elves are in the Simpsons (1 time), or that there is a ball of people running down, but those episodes also had FUNNY parts...what were they? Im sure you FORGOT, right? Yes, you only remember the sour points. Every show has sour moments, doesnt make the whole episode stupid, you blow it out of porportion. I dont worship everything the simpsons does, but its FULL of great jokes (many which you probably dont get) and Id rather talk about the funnies.You think you can write better?? I mean, give them a break, after 14 seasons, theres gonna be a downfall, but its not THAT bad. Its still the greatest, dont watch it if you dont like it, I dont care. Im always watching them if they continue being funny, which they will.
THANKS FOR THOSE AGREEING WITH ME

ALSO, I hope that the movie they relaease has no bad moment in it, oryou might just walk out of the theater. HA to you.

"And this has been another one of - ALbarto's people segment"

[Andy]

Originally posted by Al-barto
Im not telling you what to do MORON. Name-calling again, eh? Warned.

[Gummi de Milo]

how petty....

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by PsycheEnFuego
Name-calling again, eh? Warned.

Moron, thats nothing compared to what i was thinking.

After stating my opionion,(I didnt call him a dimwit, was the futurama fan) he called me "a Fucking sheep"
That shouldnt even be allowed in this site, heck hes probably not old enough to use that word

[Gummi de Milo]

Originally posted by Al-barto
"a Fucking sheep"
That shouldnt even be allowed in this site, heck hes probably not old enough to use that word


the dreaded "S" word! :x

Ok, i'm done now. Anyway, be a little thick-skinned, people.

[Andy]

Okay. I'm sorry I had to warn but I don't like being ignored. And I do admit what NOF said was a bit harsh... he will be warned if he does that again. Just like you were.

Everybody needs to calm the fuck down and just accept that everyone's got different opinions. Thank you.

[Al-barto]

Thats fine
Im alway calm, and always smiling, even as i write :)
These arguments are quite funny to me as well

No hard feelings here

:LOL: :D ;)

Unlike some that are always :angry: :( :o| :uhh:

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by Tibor
Does listing jokes you did/didn't like truly give you a better sense of objectivity when rating the humor of a show? I don't really think so, because a) I can forget jokes that simply didn't work when it is outweighed by the good stuff and b) it isn't a good idea to measure it quantitatively, i.e. 3 good jokes < 5 bad jokes, so the humor was bad. Because you might have enjoyed the three good jokes much more than you disliked the five bad.Well, the way I see it, the good jokes, lately, are often very outnumbered by lame ones. IMO, 3 good vs 5 bad is not very good, considering there used to never be a single joke in an episode that was bad enough to consider "bad."

Originally posted by Al-barto
Im not telling you what to do MORON. Im trying to help, stop being a critic because you dont know any better. Yeah, i hate the fact Jockey elves are in the Simpsons (1 time), or that there is a ball of people running down, but those episodes also had FUNNY parts...what were they? Im sure you FORGOT, right? Yes, you only remember the sour points. Every show has sour moments, doesnt make the whole episode stupid, you blow it out of porportion. I dont worship everything the simpsons does, but its FULL of great jokes (many which you probably dont get) and Id rather talk about the funnies.You think you can write better?? I mean, give them a break, after 14 seasons, theres gonna be a downfall, but its not THAT bad. Its still the greatest, dont watch it if you dont like it, I dont care. Im always watching them if they continue being funny, which they will.
Actually, I'm one of the few on this forum that actually likes the troll jockey episode AKA Saddlesore Galactica a lot. Stop jumping to conclusions about what I think of the show based on reading a review of ONE episode I did. Just because I didn't like this particular episode doesn't mean I don't "get" the Simpsons or complain about everything. I *love* the show, and for that reason, I've got high standards for it, based on the fact that it used to be perfect, flawless, hilarious, etc. I wouldn't have even watched last night's episode if I didn't like the show anymore, but I do... I just didn't like this episode. Nothing is more annoying than when somebody assumes that I never have anything good to say about the show based on ONE bad review I give.

[Al-barto]

Thats why my thread was NOT related to you
I also liked Saddlesore Galactica(mentionned in response to the other) or whatever
I just hated the ending

Anyway, my thread was for those that think the show should end
It still Rocks !

[Tibor]

It still Rocks !

I dunno... "Rocks.", maybe, but the exclamation point is a bit much.

[Channel Surfer]

Originally posted by Maddog53
In response to Channel Surfer, I can totally see where you are coming from, however I have to respectively disagree. First off, act one rarely has anything to do with the entire episode as a whole, so I usually don't have a problem with that.

It is true that the first act rarely has anything to do with the main plot nowadays. That's even true for some popular classic era episodes like "Brush With Greatness". But I did find it to be an issue here because I felt it took away from the main story, forcing the ending to seem unnecessarily rushed.

I truly thought that all the gags were made to fit the plot and not the other way around which is why I dislike Dude, Where's My Ranch so much. I think what the problem is, is that I found the gags to be funny, whereas you didn't.

"Dude, Where's My Ranch" was much worse, no question about it. Where I found this episode to be mediocre, "Ranch" proved to be more insulting.

Yeah, I did have issue with some of the gags. Though much of the humor is plot driven, as you already said, I did find some of the more annoying gags like Lisa noticing the flying penguins to be unrelated to the plotline. Though generally speaking, the bad gags do tend to be unrelated tangents to the plot. But I did have issue with the plot as well.

That's fine, but you're going to run into a difference of opinion when that happens. I'll greatly defend this episode because I enjoyed it so much. I enjoy reading your responses, it's good to have a counterpoint at times.

Thanks, and I'm not trying to go out of my way to destroy your (or anyone else’s) appreciation of this episode. Just clarifying why I didn’t care much for it.

BTW, what did you think about the previews for next weeks double header?

The previews themselves were fine. None of the typical FOX trash promos I've grown used to. "The Bart of War" sounds like an interesting plotline which, if good, could be a "Lemon of Troy" styled romp, though the beginning sounds eerily similar to "The Secret War of Lisa Simpson". As for "Moe Baby Blues", with J. Stewart Burns of "Futurama's" "Roswell That Ends Well" writing it, and Lauren MacMullan of "Little Girl in the Big Ten" directing it, I'm expecting something great just because of the team behind it. :D

[Andy]

Yeah, you weren't seeing things... another pornspammer did post here and in thirteen other threads. Banned the user, deleted all his posts.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE PEOPLE, MOVE ALONG NOW

[Al-barto]

Good job that you did

But i think he was just a joker, His link led to www.officedepot.com
I only checked to make sure everyone else was alright
FALSE ALARM PEOPLE
EVRYTHING IS OOO KKK

[Andy]

That was the last porn spammer. The original URL was... edited... in some fashion... by someone...

[TheSageBean]

PsycheEnFuego edited all of the spammer's posts to link to random sites.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto


Also, Futurama is in no category like the simpsons DIMWITS, or it would be highly viewed, would have a real timeslot, and would last 13 years.
Sure there both cartoons, but 1 is highly unrealistic (futurama) , while the Simpsons doesnt seem like a cartoon at all, and can be compared to Seinfeld
Think before you type Futurama fans (dont get me wrong, it a good show, but not great or better than the simpsons)

First off, you realize of course that people can have opinions other then yours, and that humor is subjective. So saying someone is a dimwit for liking one show over the other is, frankly, dimwitted. I may personally like seasons 1-8 of The Simpsons more then Futurama, but I don't think I'm a dimwit for liking Futurama more then the new ones, or that I deserve to be called a dimwit because I have an opinion different then yours. And if you want to talk about Futurama's legacy compared to The Simpsons, TRUST ME, The Simpsons would be cancelled VERY QUICKLY if it premiered now. If nothing else, it would only last as long as Futurama or Family Guy did. There may be other factors, but the chief reason Futurama failed was squarely Fox, and the only reason they still keep The Simpsons on is that it is so successful to begin with, that they can't afford to can it. The only reason they picked it up for the shorts in 1986 (first aired in 1987) or for a series in 1989 is that they were still an upstart network, and had nothing to lose. But as Harry Shearer said "as soon as Fox has something that can do for them what The Simpsons has, they'll cancel us like that. Thankfully they haven't found that yet". The network executives, the true dimwits here, don't get Futurama, or The Simpsons, and THAT, along with creative differences with the people running the show (namely Matt Groening) is the reason they don't promote it, put it in a bad time slot, and leave it to die. No show can be that successful with that kind of treatment.

[*Waylon Smithers*]

3/5
Good: Flanders on the train; Homer getting hit by Marge; Homer losing weight; Smithers and Burns; the flying penguins; some more I can't remember.

Bad: Too many songs; Another Marge and Homer fight....; some innacuracies such as Lisa on a field trip with Bart's fourth grade class; and other stuff.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
Im not telling you what to do MORON. Im trying to help, stop being a critic because you dont know any better.

What the hell is 'any better'? This is place where people are giving opinions--BOTH good and bad--on a TV show not some cheerleading message board. Your constent 'help' by parroting the belief the show is some god-like entity beyond opinions is MORONIC.

Yeah, i hate the fact Jockey elves are in the Simpsons (1 time), or that there is a ball of people running down, but those episodes also had FUNNY parts...what were they? Im sure you FORGOT, right?

Well, imagine eatign at McDonalds and chipping a tooth on a piece of the spatula. Guess what? When you talk about that day at Micky D's, you ain't going to be talking about how good the Coke was.

Yes, you only remember the sour points. Every show has sour moments, doesnt make the whole episode stupid, you blow it out of porportion.

Fine. I'll use your logic. "Hey it had one good joke! It's better than everything else on TV!"

I dont worship everything the simpsons does, but its FULL of great jokes (many which you probably dont get)...

Funny, you said the show was in a league of it's own. Now your saying your viewership is only moderate? Okay, and if you're equating recents Simpsons absurdity as 'great jokes', remember, lack of talent and coherence does NOT equal genius.

...and Id rather talk about the funnies.You think you can write better??

Sure, if I can get one of the writers and I to have a write-off, then I'd be all for it. But if you REALLY want to see what I can do, give me 100,000 dollars and I'll write you a damn fine script, or the deal is off.

I mean, give them a break, after 14 seasons, theres gonna be a downfall, but its not THAT bad. Its still the greatest, dont watch it if you dont like it,...

"Downfall" is a bit harsh, but saying the show is good 'just because' it's familiar is dumb as hell. Also, I can't say if a particular episode is good, or not, if I haven't seen it. If it does suck, I'm not watching again. Before you reply: "You have to watch it again to find it funny!", I dont' agree. I don't watch episodes more than twice in desperate attmempt to find something funny.


I dont care. Im always watching them if they continue being funny, which they will.
THANKS FOR THOSE AGREEING WITH ME

Don't worry, the show really 'agrees' with people like you. How? By slacking off in the writing department and knowing MORONS like you will happily digest what every spews forth from Ian's typewriter like a hog who couldn't tell the difference between a rotten bananna peel and prime rib.

ALSO, I hope that the movie they relaease has no bad moment in it, or you might just walk out of the theater. HA to you.
"And this has been another one of - ALbarto's people segment"

I think you are more than brainwashed--you're dellusional.

It's funny how a show, as M.G. put it "rewards you for paying attention", somehow spawned a generation of 'anti-nerd' nerds who only goal is to annoy the people who still think the show has the capacity to be an intellecually stimulating show.

Jake
BTW, the offer ($100,000) still stands.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto

EVRYTHING IS OOO KKK

HATE CRIME!

[DotheBartman]

While we're on the subject of Jake's writing offer/ability, I read his "Before Marge" fanscript, and part of another one, and both were very good, "Before Marge" easily topping "Brake My Wife, Please" in the heart area, and even probably topping it in humor, since it didn't have any lameass jokes like penguins flying. Don't assume that people can't write good things on their own (Simpsons or otherwise) just because they don't have the money or connections to get involved with a show themselves.

[Al-barto]

LOL
Now thats a man with time on his hands

Can someone get this man a pill, or a gun to end his miserable life?
Anybody?

Oh well
Fine, The simpsons suck, is that what you wanna hear?
LOL
whatever
Simpsons Rule !

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
LOL
Now thats a man with time on his hands

Can someone get this man a pill, or a gun to end his miserable life?
Anybody?

Oh well
Fine, The simpsons suck, is that what you wanna hear?
LOL
whatever
Simpsons Rule !

Cool! I think I broke his brain!

[Al-barto]

LOL
So money makes you smart?
You must be broke :)

How about i give you a million dollars to give me heart surgey?
WIll you know hot to do that then?

You are a Funny man indeed

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto
LOL
Now thats a man with time on his hands

Can someone get this man a pill, or a gun to end his miserable life?
Anybody?

Oh well
Fine, The simpsons suck, is that what you wanna hear?
LOL
whatever
Simpsons Rule !

First off, its a bit hypocritical to say someone has too much time on their hands when you're spending time at a Simpsons board "straigtening us out". And we don't want to hear that The Simpsons suck, in fact most of us don't think that (on the whole I mean, might be a different story when adressing certain episodes/seasons), and would rather hear the opposite, as well as say the oposite generally. But as Jake said, this is a discussion board, not a cheerleading board. We're here to discuss both the good and bad aspects. And Ian Maxtone Graham aside, apparently many of the people who work on the show DO read what we say, and some, like Al Jean, have even taken some of our negative comments into consideration. I think you need to learn what constructive criticism is.

[Al-barto]

I know what constructive criticism is.
Besides some pointless stupid parts the some of the newer shows has, (homers annoying screams for one)it is REALLY great and FUNNY.

The plots are still strong, and episodes contains MANY great jokes.
I rate it GOOD, and JAKE and maybe 2 others are mad at that.
Nothing can change my mind on that

LOL You must be broke... I like that line

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto
LOL
So money makes you smart?
You must be broke :)

How about i give you a million dollars to give me heart surgey?
WIll you know hot to do that then?

You are a Funny man indeed

Money doesn't automatically make things easier, but even if it was heart surgery, I guarantee you that even someone who you found on the street would probably try harder if they were being offered money then if they were asked to help for the hell of it. And in the case of writing a tv script, someone being paid 100,000 dollars is going to try harder then someone who's just writing one for the hell of it. And trust me, having connections, and money, makes all the difference in some cases. How many homeless or poor people get into college? Even if they haven't had much education (lack of money), they can't all be stupid. There's such a thing as being in the right place at the right time.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Al-barto
I know what constructive criticism is.
Besides some pointless stupid parts the some of the newer shows has, (homers annoying screams for one)it is REALLY great and FUNNY.

The plots are still strong, and episodes contains MANY great jokes.
I rate it GOOD, and JAKE and maybe 2 others are mad at that.
Nothing can change my mind on that


Then that's fine. Its your opinion and you can stick to it, I'd even encourage doing so. What we object to is you calling our opinions stupid because we happen to disagree, or say positive and negative things (at least you admitting there are negative aspects in later posts). There's nothing wrong with speaking your own opinion, as long as you're not just insulting the opinions of others.

[Al-barto]

You belive in that?
Thats sad to know
In some cases yes, but someone with BRAINS and Determination can do PLENTY.
Trying harder doesnt mean succeding by the way.

Just got to college in Canada, its 300.00 a year , and FREE HEALTHCARE !

And, im going to a real doctor if any surgery is ever needed.
This has been another segment of ..Al-bartos comments

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
LOL
So money makes you smart?
You must be broke :)


Money is what people need to pay their bills, genius. And writers make 100 grand for a script. So, if you want me to 'do better' than pay me like a writer so I can set aside the time to make a decent script.

How about i give you a million dollars to give me heart surgey?
WIll you know hot to do that then?

You are a Funny man indeed

If YOU offered me a million dollars to perform heart surgery, I'd do it. After all it's your miserable life I'm dealing with. 8-)

[Al-barto]

I am NOT insulting others, just those that lash out on me

The only ones Im insulting...even now, are those that think the show should END. Others have responded with harsh comments, its quite funny actually.
I agree to the decline...but its not that bad. If you think it is, just stop watching it and thats all.

I for one, still look forward to Sunday Nights

[Tibor]

There is some wisdom in that comment of Al-barto's, even if it was posed in such a crude manner. I don't see how $100,000 will make you a better writer. More time to spend on a script, sure. Better focus, absolutely, but if you can write, you can write. Not a critique on Jake's writing skills there, just saying.

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by Jake
Money is what people need to pay their bills, genius. And writers make 100 grand for a script. So, if you want me to 'do better' than pay me like a writer so I can set aside the time to make a decent script.


If YOU offered me a million dollars to perform heart surgery, I'd do it. After all it's your miserable life I'm dealing with. 8-)

Great comeback, I believe i used "miserable" to describe your life already

Your a GREAT writer ! :)
(Oh a sarcasm detector... how conveniant !)

[Tibor]

I find your alternately insulting people, and then claiming that you aren't to be perplexing.

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by Tibor
There is some wisdom in that comment of Al-barto's, even if it was posed in such a crude manner. I don't see how $100,000 will make you a better writer. More time to spend on a script, sure. Better focus, absolutely, but if you can write, you can write. Not a critique on Jake's writing skills there, just saying.

Oh come on Tibor, you sounded lie you were on my side for a sec. So close...eventually

But I dont recommend you give a critque to Jakes writing, he might go LA LA on you , like he did on me

NO BEER AND NO TV MAKE JAKE GO SOMETHING SOMETHING..
Crazy ??
DONT MIND IF I DO BLAH BLOO BLA BLA GO GOO

[Tibor]

Oh come on Tibor, you sounded lie you were on my side for a sec. So close...eventually

But I dont recommend you give a critque to Jakes writing, he might go LA LA on you , like he did on me

I don't take sides, I simply observe. From what I've observed here, you only have one point that you are arguing: "Simpson RULZ!!11" You haven't put any real thought into your argument, or supporting facts, so I haven't dignified it with a response. Shit, it looks like I just did.

As for Jake's writing, I quite enjoy it, and I recommend it, particularly the fan comic.

EDIT: Btw, DtB, do us a favor and check your PM before you leave. :)

[Jake]

Originally posted by Al-barto
Oh come on Tibor, you sounded lie you were on my side for a sec. So close...eventually

But I dont recommend you give a critque to Jakes writing, he might go LA LA on you , like he did on me

"LA LA", in meaning pointing out your schizophrenic behavior and then holding you accountable for it? Anyway, Tibor DID give a review of my writing here: http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?threadid=26374 (Scroll down to read it)

NO BEER AND NO TV MAKE JAKE GO SOMETHING SOMETHING..
Crazy ??
DONT MIND IF I DO BLAH BLOO BLA BLA GO GOO

I think the people who still cherish the show and are still 'big fans' would like you to shut up now. Otherwise they might start thinking like me.

[DotheBartman]

I don't think money makes all the difference in the world, otherwise Keanu Reeves could act. But someone with writing ability isn't just going to be magically discovered. They need money (and maybe connections)to get in the position where they can be discovered in the first place. While its certainly important, being a good writer isn't the only thing that's going to allow you to become one generally.

So, I could never perform proper heart surgery on you if I tried, but I'd still be more determined to try with that 100,000 dollars, and I would also have a better chance of learning how to do the heart surgery well enough to properly perform it if I had the money (and maybe connections) to get there in the first place.

[Al-barto]

Originally posted by Tibor
There is some wisdom in that comment of Al-barto's, e