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Andy
04-12-2003, 11:12 PM
"Weird Al" Yankovic and Scott Thompson (Kids in the Hall) guest voice when Homer, once again out of the house after a fight with Marge, moves in with a couple of homosexual men You know that however tonight's episode turns out, one thing's for sure: it's gay.

This thread will open around 8:30 ET when the episode ends on the East Coast.

Kefka
04-13-2003, 05:32 PM
This episode was alright. Pretty emotional, kinda funny, etc. 3/5

Dennis
04-13-2003, 05:32 PM
3/5. Not really that funny but I like the Marge and Homer scenes and Dr. Hibbert was funny.

Voodoo Monkey
04-13-2003, 05:32 PM
4/5. Not bad, but not the best this year. The puzzle set up some good jokes, but seemed kind of out of place compared to the rest. Homer running into Smithers was good. Bart’s ‘easy to lie’ joke was rehashed. Homer’s song parodies that he sent to Weird Al were good.

Andy
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
Wow, not really that bad. Third act was a little rushed, and Weird Al wasn't that spectacular. But Scott Thompson was excellent tonight, and the plot did go along well. No real cheap gay jokes like Jaws Wired Shut... instead, we got a really clever episode. Nice job.

YesMan
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
A well deserved 4/5. Very well done episode, in my opinion.

Toxic Monkey
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
helter shelter was better than this. :(

giving it a 1/5...worst of the year.

Eddie
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
This was a great episode. Very funny, with lots of good yuks throughout. But the plot was iffy, and the very end was stupid. This episode was also terribly edited, and the continuity was wrong. Oh, well. I still was entertained, and a lot of good, clever jokes came up, so I'm able to overlook stuff I'd usually take seriously in an un-funny episode. 3/5 But, still, this whole thing was NOTHING compared to the brilliance of "Homer's Phobia."

Moose of Doom!
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
Could've been a LOT better, could've been worse. A mostly forgettable episode.

Akbar
04-13-2003, 05:34 PM
3.5/5... meh. It was funny but not that funny.

Mafia
04-13-2003, 05:34 PM
I wasn't paying too much attention. I did laugh at a bunch of jokes, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I meant to give it a 4/5 for 3.7/5, but I accidently put 3. So I will post this typical useless review. I probably shoulda downloaded this episode and rewatched and then review it... but oh well... sorry.

Mayor Quimby
04-13-2003, 05:34 PM
Very good, loved Wierd Al song bit, everything seemed slow and not to rushed. 4.5/5.

Wonder which way Channel Surfer will go with this, either way he gives the best reviews.

Blue Phoenix
04-13-2003, 05:35 PM
3/5

Not terrible but there was nothing about it that really stands out.

or_smth
04-13-2003, 05:35 PM
Pretty damn bad.

2/5

This episode illustrates all of the issues with this entire season. Misplaced jokes, unpaced writing, quick forced ending and false sense of emotion were rampant.

This war probably the worst Guest Star since R.E.M. in Homer the Moe. I love Weird Al, but give me a fucking break. Let's reconcile, so here's Weird Al singing a song!

I found this episode to be laughless and boring. I'm tired of this from the Simpsons.
crap.

Drayken II
04-13-2003, 05:37 PM
4/5 a bit lacking in humor.

Hans Barber
04-13-2003, 05:37 PM
pretty good. i thought it was pretty funny, and liked how the family was involved with everything. Though Maggie and Granpa like had there one second of fame and then disappeared through out the whole episode. Still good though. 3\5

Maddog53
04-13-2003, 05:37 PM
I really don't have anything to complain about. Good story, great jokes, and guest appearances that didn't feel tacked on ("Weird Al" I felt was used well). I would give it a 3.75/5 but I voted for 3. Good episode.

Maddog.

thecapecoddah
04-13-2003, 05:41 PM
3.5/5, as other people said the story was all over the place but there were plenty of amusing scenes/one-liners. Enjoyable Weird Al cameo as well. All in all it was a pretty decent episode that could've been a lot worse considering the writers had the chance to do plenty of "cheap gay jokes," like Psyche stated. Fortunately, that didn't happen.

Wavy Gravy
04-13-2003, 05:41 PM
A fine episode. This season just keeps shining. The puzzle bit at the start (featuring some nice Grampa and Maggie scenes) wasn't overdone, which I liked, and the flashback scene was great (especially Moe). Classic line: "Another memory to be repressed...I am at Disneyland...Disneyland..." Homer's roommates were pretty funny characters (which one was voiced by Scott Thompson, if it was one of them?). The scene at the bar was hilarious (Homer's dance and Moleman's scene), and the whole thing tied together well with Hibbert (best appearance of his this season). Weird Al was an alright guest star, especially his end credits song. Overall, another classic. 4/5.

Gamblor
04-13-2003, 05:43 PM
Wow, whats everyone talking about. This is the first time in awhile that I couldn't stop laughing. This episode was really well done, with the exception of the first act (it was a little unbalenced and odd compared to the rest of the episode). The second act was a lot better than the first. Even Weird Al's apperance wasn't that bad.

GRADE: A-

Bubble Crum
04-13-2003, 05:45 PM
4.5/5. I voted 4. The fact that after all these years they can pull off a piece of Homer and Marge's History and make it work is amazing. The gay thing however was out of nowhere and just to make jokes. and the ep. was kinda a rehash of "Barting Over." But overall it was great. Here's for a great season!

Fav Part: Marge: "Reverend Lovejoy, Mrs. Lovejoy, Principal Skinner, Duffman..."

Akbar
04-13-2003, 05:47 PM
yes i agree, the gay thing sucked.

Brent
04-13-2003, 05:48 PM
That was seriously one of the most average episodes in The Simpsons history. All the flashbacks of Homer's drinking were good and I'm glad the gay thing really didn't make too much of a plot.

The gay guy kissing Homer was a little too much though , but good thing they saved it by having Homer jump out of the window. Not great, but not bad either.

3/5

NoOneFamous
04-13-2003, 05:48 PM
This episode was very well written and featured some of the best Homer characterization in a long time (they're definately trying to restore the *old* Homer). My main problem with this episode is that the plot of Homer & Marge getting mad at each other is really overused, and I didn't like their reason for fighting this time - they made it seem as if Marge never really loved Homer. The whole fight also reeked of forced, false emotion. But, the hospital scene at the end saved that and confirmed that she always did love Homer no matter what he did (which has been said a million times in the show already). So, despite the fact that the plot has been done to death, they still did a good job on this one - it wasn't rushed, and the situation was realistic of how parents really would fight. And I'd take this over another wacky adventure any day.

The risky situation with Homer moving in with the Gays actually turned out okay - even the kiss, which was saved by Homer jumping out the window (though I didn't like how all the gay guys were very stereotypical).

This episode was not a laugh riot, but there were still some great jokes. I noticed lots of really subtle, quick jokes that worked really well, like the Bumblebee Man newspaper headline, the sign outside Kirk's appartment changing to 00 after a gunshot is heard, and a quick shot of Comic Book Guy being dragged away by the guards after challenging the Medieval Times guy. Best of all, they kept the tasteless sex jokes that I hate so much to a minimum, except for Homer's gay dancing and Moleman about to be raped by that sargent guy.

Weird Al was a pointless guest star & appeared out of nowhere, but I don't care, because Weird Al kicks ass! Both versions of his parody were hilarious, especially the one over the credits, and if anyone is worthy of a pointless guest spot on the Simpsons, its Weird Al.

I'm gonna give this one a 4/5 for now, but I'm not entirely sure because of the over-used plot idea.

Tomacco
04-13-2003, 05:49 PM
This episode was undeniably great! It had a very solid and focused story, GREAT characterization for everyone, and of course, great jokes and dialogue. Seriously, Homer was characterized masterfully, even with the changes in character towards gayness. But they had the alcohol/drunkenness part of the story going throughout the whole episode beautifully. The use of flashbacks was perfect, and how they finished the episode with a video flashback was well done. The gay jokes were actually different from in "Homer's Phobia", and given the heavy Homercentric plot, they kept the rest of the family involved very well. This is an episode that they would have COMPLETELY blown in seasons 10-12, and maybe even 13, but the new style of the show that I've been raving about since around the 300th episode shined through here and brought us a quality episode. The dialogue was fantastic, from subtle to in-your-face humor.

Plus, I give it extra credit for pulling off such a risky storyline, especially after the success was "Homer's Phobia". Now this wasn't as good as "Homer's Phobia" but it was still VERY good. I hope this episode gets the good poll ratings I think it deserves. Here are some lines to think back on:

"I swear to God if I was an eight year old straight boy I'd so be holding your hand right now. "
"that will be one hundred dollars" (after haircut)
"I'm like David Spade without Chris Farley, alone and useless"
"looks like you're missing a piece" - "looks like you're missing a wife!"
"The subs with this guy who used to be fat but now he's just ugly"

Plus I loved the 'Silent Bob' Maggie line.

WWE
04-13-2003, 05:52 PM
Without me of all people getting into the gay thing, it was a good episode. There was support instead of stereotype which is good stuff. The puzzle thing seemed funny, and the rest was more dramatic and emotional. One of my favorites episodes. :) ... Im serious.

MaxPlow
04-13-2003, 05:54 PM
I think it had some good jokes, and some ok ones. I wish Weird Al had a better cameo than that, but the song at the end made it better. I thought it was a pretty average episode.

Thrillhouse24
04-13-2003, 05:54 PM
i thought it was the best episode this season i like the marge and homer flash back in the begining

Bubble Crum
04-13-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by NoOneFamous
...and Moleman about to be raped by that sargent guy.


rape! ;-/

huh?
04-13-2003, 06:03 PM
I feel that this was an excellent episode. Pulled off with a very good storyline and some good jokes, especially in the flashback and with Dr. Hibbert. The guest stars were all good, particularly Weird Al; he had good lines and a nice song. Only complaint: the plot went a little bit slow.
4.75/5(which I'll round up to a 5); one of the best, if not the best, of Season 14.

blotto
04-13-2003, 06:04 PM
for what it's worth-

the 'julio' character was an obvious send-up of the gay houseboy character from the movie 'the birdcage'. the actor who played the gay houseboy? hank azaria. probably a little 'duh', but there ya go.
also, when homer mentions his song submissions by name, one of them is 'another one bites the crust'. well, weird al already did a parody of that queen song, it's called 'another one rides the bus'. it's off his first album. that's an idiotically nitpicky thing to point out, but again, there ya go.

i thought it was a pretty okay episode. i hate arbitrary guest shots, like just trotting out al to play himself and writing it off as 'marge sent me a lot of money so i did this', that's pretty shoddy stuff. that's not what these writers should be paid to do, and this kinda thing will continue to piss me off.

on the other hand, scott thompson was great, and he didn't play himself, which is also great. i'd call it a three, still leagues better than oliver frickin beane.

Jolly Bengali
04-13-2003, 06:05 PM
Review from my site...

What satisfaction. Season 14 has had a few great episodes, all coming quite close to excellence but failing to succeed in everything needed for it. The writers finally put it all together for this one, however, and I couldn't be more happy. The classic Homer-Marge interactions always seem to work out well, and the episode made great use of using their emotions to push forward the plot. Everything made sense, all the characters and character usage was right on, and pretty much everythin gelled together for an excellent mix. But this episode's best point is that it was simply hilarious. Gag after gag, I found myself laughing out loud in a way that is rare for these newer seasons. The opening bits with the puzzle, the flashbacks with Marge and Homer, Moe dropping off Homer with alcohol poisoning, and some excellent classic-style lines throughout the episode combined to keep a smile on my face the entire time, which is a fairly rare feat. The episode even had a nice conclusion with Hibbert, Homer, and Marge, which I really felt wrapped up the episode nicely. The only problem I had with the whole episode was the slightly tacked-on feeling with Weird Al's cameo, but it was still better than most of the new guest stars. Really, it's hard trying to find fault with this episode. Best of Season 14 so far, and hopefully the episodes will continue to air with this kind of quality attached. Grade: A

Hans Barber
04-13-2003, 06:09 PM
i also liked moe in this episode...and the flash backs. and how homer acted when marge first walked into the room. well done episode and i would agree the ga thing kinda ruined the episode, but it was still well done

Datoupee
04-13-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by blotto
'julio' character was an obvious send-up of the gay houseboy character from the movie 'the birdcage'. the actor who played the gay houseboy? hank azaria. probably a little 'duh', but there ya go.Yep. I also noticed that. Anyway, this episode was once again another amazing episode for this season. Whoo Hoo ! :)

Sultan of Seltzer
04-13-2003, 06:11 PM
There were some funny gags, but I wasn't crazy about this episode. The ending with old doctor Hibbert wasa hilarious, though. I am getting tired of Homer and Marge fighting episodes and this one felt kinda forced. 3/5

SpongeBob No Pants
04-13-2003, 06:13 PM
awesome episode, i liked the story, execpt the gay kiss was, well... gay, but besides that i loved the show, all the characters were used effectivley, from maggie, to smithers, no one was out of character

grade
B+

Cole
04-13-2003, 06:14 PM
Enjoyable episode. It had some subtle humor but alot of hit and miss, borderline lame jokes (Homer's alcohol being drawn back into a giant Duff bottle, for example). The story was somewhat focused, showing a more emotional side of Homer and Marge's relationship and dealing with Homer's alcoholism, albeit in a mostly joking fashion. The whole gay issue was handled better than I expected .. since I feared it would just be leftover or repeated jokes from "Homer's Phobia." It also had some great uses of flashbacks, even though Dr. Hibbert's secret tapes seemed like a forced way for Homer to discover Marge's caring for him while he was in the hospital. I didn't really care for Weird Al's appearance. It seemed like a silly way for Marge to deal with a serious issue ... but that didn't subtract too much from the episode. Also, I didn't really find many of the puzzle jokes to be very humorous. It just felt like an overly complicated and lengthy way for Homer to discover Marge's letter. But, overall, a pretty solid episode. I have few complaints. 4/5

Kang&Kodos
04-13-2003, 06:17 PM
For a Simspons episode I thought it was about average. I give it a 3/5. Nothing too overly outstanding about it. I will give them credit for the gay aspects of the storyline, but they did sort of fall back on the stereotypical gay characters.
I really thought they might do like with Barney and tackle Homer's alcoholism. For a brief moment I was thinking were they really going to have him go(gasp!) sober. Thanks to good old Moe this wasn't the case.
So now is Homer a bisexual maybe?

NoOneFamous
04-13-2003, 06:19 PM
I thought the idea of Dr. Hibbert's tapes proving Marge's love was kind of forced, until he explained that he was taping to catch the nurse stealing sponges.

Oh yeah, one thing I really hated and didn't understand was Moe purposely giving alcohol poisoning to Homer. That made no sense and they're really destroying Moe's character.

Bubble Crum
04-13-2003, 06:19 PM
Irony: Homer's Pin Pal's shirt is seen in the closet. But I thought he sold it...and now it's Johns.

Tomacco
04-13-2003, 06:26 PM
I really wanna hear DTBM's take on the episode. I think he might have dug the emotional side of it.

FlawlessFlanders
04-13-2003, 06:27 PM
Not that bad an episode. While the kiss bit was a little distasteful, this easily earned a 4/5.

bmac
04-13-2003, 06:29 PM
ahhh! i missed the new ep. Guess i'll have to download it and watch it later, then i will have a review, not that anyone cares.

Simpson Purist
04-13-2003, 06:43 PM
8/10, A pretty darn good episode.

What I liked
I enjoyed the flashback, Homer and Marge looked on-model for something the animators haven't done in a while. Weird Al's cameo was shameless, but the song was funny. Homer's puzzle-induced hallucination is one of the funniest moments of the season. I liked the gay guy's comment about Lisa. Great old-school gags afoot as well (the "Vote for No Homer" billboard is conveniently located outside Homer and Marge's bedroom, the flashback, Dr. Hibbert's hairstyles, and of course the sign gag).

What I didn't like
Another Cletus appearance, good lord when will they tone it down. The puzzle plot-line was tacky and somewhat dumb. The flash-forward to Dr. Hibbert watching the tapes was another dumb way of ending the episode on a cheap laugh. I didn't like how Homer decided to ditch his roommates, you'd think he'd give them a proper farewell instead of jumping out of the window. Also, while the "Oprah Puzzle Club" gag was funny, it was overemphasized.

EDIT: Review revised a bit now that I've seen the episode again.

Stina
04-13-2003, 06:46 PM
Pretty Good.

4/5

DotheBartman
04-13-2003, 06:48 PM
Well, well, well....

Not bad at all. I, as well as many of us here, was afraid this would bomb horribly, but it was actually close to the opposite.

There WERE somethings I didn't care for. A few jokes bombed here and there (plus a couple reused ones, like Lenny can't put something in his eye from "Homer vs. Dignity" and Bart's fake apologies from "Australia", and things like Homer's dancing at the club were just strange. But overall, that was pretty good. Most of the jokes weren't amazingly funny, but nothenless worked well enough (and there were some gems, like the Patty and Selma billboard). But what really encouraged me is that I actually really did care what was going on. The two flashbacks (and the flashforward) in particular were very well done, and really got me into the story, and the episode as a whole I think contained the dark, somewhat sad edge that the show has been missing for some time. Even most of the stuff with Homer and the gays seemed lighthearted enough in the stereotyping that I can't see anyone being offended by it, and it wasn't too overdone.

Not a perfect episode by any means, but I did really like it this time. I'll give this one a B for now. I was really starting to permenantly lose interest in the new episodes, but if they can continue this more recent upswing, well....

Mr. Plow
04-13-2003, 06:49 PM
Very decent episode. I didn't really buy Homer accepting the whole gay scenario that quick since I was reminded of his actions in "Homer's Phobia", but then I realized that was on Bart's stake. It had some great jokes and I enjoyed the flashbacks, which also featured one of the Dr. Hibbert's flashback haircuts. I also liked the "Silent Bob" joke. 4/5

Mike Scully
04-13-2003, 06:50 PM
Unlike some recent episodes, the emotional story here didn't feel contrived at all. It was reminiscent of other great episodes about Marge and Homer's past, such as The Way We Was and I Married Marge. Homer messes up but retains his likeability, and Marge loves him for who he is. Great! The hospital scene at the end was done beautifully, and had a good moral to it about sticking together and resolving differences. The gay plot was actually very clever and really complemented the main plot well, even if it wasn't particularly relevant. The flashbacks were entertaining too; I really liked getting to look into Marge and Homer's life when they were dating, even briefly. Overall, this episode wasn't anything really GREAT, but it had real heart, clever gay jokes (possibly the first since Homer's Phobia), strong characterization, and a message.

Grade: B

DotheBartman
04-13-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco
I really wanna hear DTBM's take on the episode. I think he might have dug the emotional side of it.

You're right (see my review). I was really suprised that they pulled it off as well as they did, since IMO the emotional stuff has been more lacking as of late. But this time they at least let the characters breath between the jokes when the emotional stuff was needed.

GKScotty
04-13-2003, 06:51 PM
Hated this one, it's my least favorite ep in a while. The ep didn't have many LOL jokes, just lots of middling "oh. heh" jokes, characterisation was poor with Homer and Marge acting childishly and Bart being boring, ("I have nothing to say so I'll say I have nothing to say") emotion was non-existent and the whole thing was resolved with a terrible plot contrivance. Also, the episode committed the crime of totally and utterly wasting Weird Al!

Sometimes the ep seemed to be going for "shocking" but it was too predictable for that to work. The two new characters were just bundles of gay stereotypes without any of the uniqueness that made John from "Homer's Phobia" interesting. In fact, I've already forgotten their names. In the end the whole ep was just completely forgetable.

2/5, barely.

Mafia
04-13-2003, 07:01 PM
after Homer was kissed by his roommate, I was thinking that it would probably have Homer walking backwards like in the Sweetest Apu. I'm glad they didn't stretch any jokes too long.

"This is the best kiss I've had all night... or was it?" I laughed when I first heard it, but I now think it was kinda lame, making Homer question his overall sexuality after kissing Marge. I suppose it might be appropriate, though.

Capitol City Goof
04-13-2003, 07:10 PM
4/5. Very solid episode. Not quite as good as "Homer's Phobia", but Moleman had his best moment in years.

|RABiD|
04-13-2003, 07:19 PM
WOW! Simply superb! I love this episode! When it comes to "gay" stuff, the simpsons shine! Too many LOL moments and it was VERY VERY well done. I absolutely loved the emotional side also. Great ending and very well written equals a stellar episode tonite. 5/5!

nowhere
04-13-2003, 07:20 PM
I have some minor complaints, but I can't complain about one thing; this episode was quite funny. I don't think I've laughed as much at a new episode in a long time. Sure Weird Al was one the stupidest, most pointless guess stars they've ever had, it was basically the same plot used over again, and the little emotion tried seemed forced, but it made me laugh.

It was very good at what it tried to be and that is a funny, wacky solid episode of the Simpsons.
4/5

P.S. Come on, Psyche, where's the creativity, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay?

Urts
04-13-2003, 07:25 PM
Good, enjoyable episode. I didn't feel it was too spectacular, but nothing here was terrible. It felt incomplete and jumpy at times, but it was balanced by several good jokes.

The puzzle thing at the beginning was quite odd. Not the worst or wackiest thing so far this season, but it was a bit strange. Homer's memory was quite funny, but I did think that Homer was supposed to have been different when he and Marge were dating. The newspaper stand coming out of nowhere was lame. I'm glad there were pretty much no bad sex jokes, but Weird Al's guest spot seemed slightly wasted to me.

Rating: 3.5/5

Handsome Pete
04-13-2003, 07:29 PM
Hmmm...that was pretty good, actually. Plot, characterization, and jokes all seemed decent (Milhouse's rock tumbler bit was particularly funny, along with the jab at David Spade) and although Weird Al's cameo seemed too tacked on, I knew it was coming for a while, so I let it slide. Besides, his song wasn't too bad. And the whole relationship involving Homer's drinking and Marge's distaste in his behavior was done pretty well, in my opinion. Simply, the emotion in this episode seemed to be well-thought out, and that really helped this episode out.

Of course, there were some things that made me go "Eh..." (The jigsaw puzzle beginning, the alcohol in the big Duff bottle, Moe's continual disturbing behavior...), but overall, I liked it. Thankfully, they didn't even stoop to using distasteful gay jokes! 4/5. Heh...we get to see another one of Hibbert's old haircuts...

Tomacco
04-13-2003, 07:39 PM
Watching it again, and BRAVO writers! Nice foreshadowing done here - in the opening seconds of the episode, they mention a past intervention to stop Homer's drinking, which was a problem that returned throughout the episode. Excellent.

And the scene where Homer reads Marge's letter is such quality writing. It's the little things. Like when Marge is reminiscing about singing "Mocking Bird", combined with Homer's unenthusiastic "yeah"s and then "whatever". It's these little clever dialogues that make the show incredible, and they're abundant in this episode.

DotheBartman
04-13-2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco
Watching it again, and BRAVO writers! Nice foreshadowing done here - in the opening seconds of the episode, they mention a past intervention to stop Homer's drinking, which was a problem that returned throughout the episode. Excellent.

And the scene where Homer reads Marge's letter is such quality writing. It's the little things. Like when Marge is reminiscing about singing "Mocking Bird", combined with Homer's unenthusiastic "yeah"s and then "whatever". It's these little clever dialogues that make the show incredible, and they're abundant in this episode.

Agreed on both notes. I think I noticed the foreshadowing as well. The puzzle sequence seemed kind of odd honestly, and wasn't very funny (the ep started to kick in with the first flashback IMO), but even that was kind of encouraging in that was more or less a normal family thing, rather then a random trip to the zoo or something.

Also, I actually didn't mind Moe's behavior in this one. I haven't cared for most of his appearances as of late, but this seemed more like the Moe of old.

Mayor Quimby
04-13-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by DotheBartman
Agreed on both notes. I think I noticed the foreshadowing as well. The puzzle sequence seemed kind of odd honestly, and wasn't very funny (the ep started to kick in with the first flashback IMO), but even that was kind of encouraging in that was more or less a normal family thing, rather then a random trip to the zoo or something.

Also, I actually didn't mind Moe's behavior in this one. I haven't cared for most of his appearances as of late, but this seemed more like the Moe of old.

Yeah Moe wasn't to annoying, lets hope he can carry an episode later this season. Whats the next episode, My Mother the Carjacker?

irv
04-13-2003, 07:53 PM
the idea of the story and the emotional undercurrent was good, but there was some wierd shit that reminded me of the horrible seasons throughout this episode. wierd al cameo was pretty fucking stupid.

3/5

Mayor Quimby
04-13-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by dr. cockandballs
the idea of the story and the emotional undercurrent was good, but there was some wierd shit that reminded me of the horrible seasons throughout this episode. wierd al cameo was pretty fucking stupid.

3/5

Wierd Shit, "What you talking bout Willis?" I mean Dr. Cockandballs.

irv
04-13-2003, 07:59 PM
wait, people don't like moe now?

what the fuck. why do you watch the show if you hate the characters.

henry
04-13-2003, 08:14 PM
I voted for the "Gay" option.


Otherwise known as 4/5

Jake
04-13-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by PsycheEnFuego
Wow, not really that bad. Third act was a little rushed, and Weird Al wasn't that spectacular.

I agree with the ending being too rushed, but good thing the rest of the show wasn't.

4/5. And that's all for this week.

Jake

My Little Needle
04-13-2003, 08:16 PM
3/5. Recycled story line, recycled jokes. I laughed a couple times, and I liked the jigsaw puzzle. It ended on a funny note. "Damn it, she was stealing sponges!" But I hated the gay steretypes. They're not funny.

Jake
04-13-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by nowhere


P.S. Come on, Psyche, where's the creativity, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay?

Should've been:

5=Flaming
4=Flirty
3=Smithers
2=Oh Be Nice!
1=Homophobe

Handsome Pete
04-13-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by dr. cockandballs
wait, people don't like moe now?

what the fuck. why do you watch the show if you hate the characters.

I think I speak for many people when I say that I still like Moe, but the way he's been acting in recent episodes has been disturbing, for lack of a better word. It seems that he has become more of a bizarre psychopath than the desperate person that we've all come to know in the course of the show. Take the whole wall filled with pictures of dead designated drivers, for example (what one was it in again? It was only a few episodes ago...). I found that to just be a bit of a sick joke.

Oh yeah, before I forget, Scott Thompson playing one of Homer's roommates was a good call.

davidshirt
04-13-2003, 08:40 PM
What a funny episode. The kiss wasn't too forced, because it was obvious that they were building up something between Homer and the guy through most of the episode.

In a way it reminded me of the big "Kissing" episode from Roseanne that happened back in 94 when Roseanne was kissed by a gay girl.

ProfFrink888
04-13-2003, 08:43 PM
What the fuck? How come everyone seems to have loved tonight's episode? I absolutely, utterly despised it. When it ended, I just sat there and three words came slowly out of my mouth: worst episode ever. Well actually, I'd rank it as the second-worst episode of all-time and worst of the season.

I didn't let out a single laugh during the entire course of these thirty suicidal minutes. ("Urge to kill rising, rising... gone.") Not one chuckle, giggle or snigger. I mearly smirked at the Weird Al bit. Speaking of which, I expected way better from good 'ol Weird Al Yankovic. He's usually very, very funny, but tonight he was surely not at his prime. At least his remix type thing during the credits at the end of the show nearly compensated for the lack of hilarity in his original song.

This same plot has been done and done over and over again ("It's been done."): Homer and Marge get into some sort of fight over an insignificant argument about something most viewers can't even recall by the end of the show. Then one of the two leaves for a few days, meets strange people, and eventually one of the two persuades the other to come home, and he/she does. This has even been done with Bart ('Barting Over') and Santa's Little Helper ('Dog of Death'). That's six times to my count.

Various secondary characters seem to have popped up out of nowhere at random times for no reason whatsoever. And most of them were very cheesy and unfunny: Hans Moleman, Abe Simpson, Chief Wiggum, Duffman, Dr. Hibbert, "and the rest." What in the hell does Duffman have to do with anything anyway? (A macho superhero mascot for a beer company in tights at a Medieval Times show has to do with Marge and Homer breaking up temporarily how?)

There are many other factors in my decision to rate this as one of the worst episodes ever, but I shan't go into those right now. ("[It wa]s just plain stinkin'.")

("But the point is....") I give 'Three Gays of the Condo' a 1/5, but only because that's the lowest possible grade I can give it. Always with the technicalities...

"And that's the end of that chapter."

Jamie
04-13-2003, 08:45 PM
Pretty good. The riff between Marge and Homer wasn't as forced as I thought it was going to be. Weird Al was incredibly pointless. Not filled with gay jokes, either.

homer5000
04-13-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Jake
Should've been:

5=Flaming
4=Flirty
3=Smithers
2=Oh Be Nice!
1=Homophobe

As a mod, can't you change these things? Because I agree that "Gay, Gay, Gay, Gay and Gay" is pretty...stupid.

Anyways...GREAT episode. Did anyone notice the many, many past episode refrences? "The Way We Was", "Mr. Plow", "Team Homer" (though, didn't John have that T-Shirt?), "Homer the Moe", "Homer's Phobia", "The Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie Show" and "I Married Marge". Another note: Did anyone notice how Dr. Hibbert looked like Bill Cosby about a few years ago at the end? Nice touch.

Great jokes, including Selma and Patty's billboard and the flashbacks. The gay stuff wasn't bad either...4/5

NoOneFamous
04-13-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by dr. cockandballs
wait, people don't like moe now?

what the fuck. why do you watch the show if you hate the characters.
First of all... people are allowed to hate certain characters and still like a show. Second, some people, like me, are getting sick of the things they make Moe do... they're just weird. I've always liked Moe's character, but come on, randomly giving Homer, his longtime friend, alcohol poisoning? Thats horrible

okayagain
04-13-2003, 08:53 PM
It seems like they've learned how to avoid many cringe inducing things in an episode, other than jokes. Many times when you'd expect a pause after a joke, or too much attention at a poor gag, they didn't do it. It made this episode a lot better not to be bothered by such things. When Bart slammed the door in Milhouse's face--it was quick and funny, when CBG was seen with a bloody stab--it was out of the way and not focused on. Even the re-used jokes got a small smile out of me thanks to the way they were handled. This helped because there were weren't many big laughs in this episode, but it had a lot of good smaller jokes in it (especially Moleman).

It was fun to watch too. Although I didn't really care for Homer and Marge, they both were well done. And the flashbacks and the ending helped this episode stand out. The only things I didn't enjoy in this was the kiss (although one might argue it was a good way for Homer to go get drunk), Weird Al's cameo (thankfully it was short), and Homer's dance at the club.
A very high 4/5.

Stackhouse
04-13-2003, 08:53 PM
I'm surprised this ep is getting such mixed reviews... oh well.

Three Gays of the Condo S14:

Good Animation +1
Homer's gay kiss.. -1
Good Characterization +1
'She WAS stealing sponges!' +.5
The Patty & Selma billboard +.5
Good Emotion +1
Still not up to classic simpsons par -1

9/10... I liked it.

•ºMikè~Stẕ
04-13-2003, 09:14 PM
How did people actually like that ep?? worst one ever.

Channel Surfer
04-13-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Mayor Quimby
Wonder which way Channel Surfer will go with this, either way he gives the best reviews.

Thanks again. You can read the review here (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-146/epid-197295/blockid-79455/). It seems to fit in with what most people said.

One thing about this episode that I'd like to mention was its plotting. At times, it seemed really well done. People have already mentioned the writers connecting Homer's alcoholism into the beginning and end of the storyline. In that way, the storyline was really well thought out. However, many of the other plot points, the newspaper stand that "magically" appeared at the Simpson house, Moe filling Homer with beer causing the second alcohol poisoning, Hibbert's videotape saves Homer and Marge's marriage (it was odder then Willie's tape in "Homer: Bad Man", and treated more seriously to boot); these things, combined with the overplayed jigsaw beginning, made the plotline a bit jumpy for me, and took away from the otherwise good storyline.

Still, a pretty good episode overall. The flashback scenes were truly great, and the main storyline was pretty well handled. It could've been better, but it was entertaining enough, so why complain.

Grade: B/B-

|RABiD|
04-13-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by •ºMikè~Stẕ
How did people actually like that ep?? worst one ever.

I can understand why people would dislike this episode. But i simply cannot understand why anyone would label this episode as "Worst Episode Ever" when there are many other episodes to hate in the series. Ex: Simpson Safari, Kill The Alligator And Run etc.

caramelbart
04-13-2003, 09:48 PM
Did anyone understand the crude racial subtext to Lenny’s comment about not having jigs in his eye?
Hello Karl and him are good friends or possible gay lovers (God I hope the writers have them get married on the show)…. As I was saying the word jig back in the days was just as negative as the n-word.
Sex joke seamen in the eye – Karl’s seamen (no jigs in the eye) … get it

By the way loved Oprah’s puzzle club

caribou
04-13-2003, 10:22 PM
The flashback scenes were pure gold! Those scenes were so reminiscent of classic Simpsons that my face hurt from smiling too hard.

We need a new all-flashback episode, and soon.

caribou
04-13-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Tomacco


And the scene where Homer reads Marge's letter is such quality writing. It's the little things. Like when Marge is reminiscing about singing "Mocking Bird", combined with Homer's unenthusiastic "yeah"s and then "whatever". It's these little clever dialogues that make the show incredible, and they're abundant in this episode.

Homer's James Taylor line was brilliant. That's what Homer used to be like. He's slowly returning...

Incognito, Guy
04-13-2003, 10:28 PM
Wow! Another good episode. I've laughed more in the past few weeks than in the past 2 years before it!

Incognito, Guy
04-13-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by caramelbart
Sex joke seamen in the eye – Karl’s seamen (no jigs in the eye) … get it

Jigs? You mean jizz? Never heard it as Jigs...dunno if that's the joke they were going for.

okayagain
04-13-2003, 10:38 PM
Main Entry: 3jig
Function: noun
Etymology: short for jigaboo black person
Date: 1927
usually offensive : BLACK 4
Uh...I don't see caramelbart's reasoning though...

Peacefrog22
04-14-2003, 06:11 AM
I gotta give this one 3/5. Not one of the best this year. No real defining moments. One of the few episodes of the year where I hardly laughed at all. I have to agree with what everyone's been saying about overused plot devices, this one was as old as it comes. This ep. wasn't completely bad though, there were some good moments:

Smithers skating down the street
Lenny as the puzzle
Maggie moments ("Silent Bob")

I am thrilled that they have really concentrated on bringing Maggie back into the light this season after being in the dark too long.
Not super ep., but alright.

MaxpowerAK79
04-14-2003, 06:29 AM
I'm going with a 4/5 on this one: Because it had a whole lot of hard laughing moments! The plot was good, moved along quickly, and nothing too terrible...But the jokes really snapped!

Good:
Milhouse and his Rock Tumbler
Lenny/s face/puzzle piece
Homer: It looks like YOU'RE MISSING A WIFE, FLANDERS!
Flashback to "Meaux's tavern"
Movie Reference: The Warriors "Puzzlepiece come out to play-ay!"
Song reference: Mockingbird: Mock- yeah, ing-yeah...
Singer/Sonwriter/puzzlepiece
Who made you Judge Judy and Executioner
Stores: Alternative Knifestyles
Picky Ricardo
Coffee in the barber's face
Nightclub: 1 Night Stans
Moleman!@ That was terrible!
HOMER GETS KISSED? WHAT THE FUCK?

Bad: Lotion/strangulation...that was lame
Hibbert at the end...wierd as well.

SideshowMatt
04-14-2003, 07:27 AM
Hey everyone, this is my first post here :)
I thought the episode was ok. A few lol points though.
"Looks like you're missing a wife"
- ouch

3/5

jerry
04-14-2003, 08:00 AM
a very good episode which introduced a gay district with lots of new places in Springfield, including: Village Apartments, Armistead Mopeds, Fab Abs, Sconewall Bakery, Alternative Knifestyles, Victor Victoria's, One Night Stan's, Medieval Times, and Harrigan's (Bar). Look for them in the next update of the Map of Springfield (http://www.csupomona.edu/~jelerma/springfield) : )

Gummi de Milo
04-14-2003, 09:05 AM
Just dumb. not terrible, but very few funny moment.s Homer meeting Smithers was pretty funny, though. It's like they're tryign to make Smithers more out-and-out gay than just implied.


2/5, over all.

MeganTumelty
04-14-2003, 09:12 AM
Anybody happened to notice who the director was on this episode?

--Jen Kamerman, the former director lady to whom these things still matter.

|RABiD|
04-14-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by MeganTumelty
Anybody happened to notice who the director was on this episode?

--Jen Kamerman, the former director lady to whom these things still matter.

Yes Jen, it was Mark Kirkland

necrulez
04-14-2003, 09:19 AM
Mark Kirkland did.

Btw, i was pleasantly suprised with this episode, and I also seem to be one of the few ppl here who actually liked te Weird Al song....

mohammed jafar
04-14-2003, 09:44 AM
has John Swartzwelder written more episodes than Mark Kirkland has directed?

thecapecoddah
04-14-2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Tomacco
"I'm like David Spade without Chris Farley, alone and useless"

"looks like you're missing a piece" - "looks like you're missing a wife!"

hahahah, two priceless lines right there.

Max Power
04-14-2003, 10:25 AM
Sorry I'm late, anyway... great, great, great episode.
I'm admired by the way these (soon to be) classic one-liners stated above by #1 (which was then stated by Tomacco) and the excellent plot stucture of this episode. It just missed one little margin but still, one of the best. 4 out of 5.

MilPool83
04-14-2003, 11:35 AM
Hey guys...

I thought the jokes in the episode were great. However, something needs to be addressed.

What the hell is going on with this narrator? It has ruined the last two episodes. I haven't really heard anyone comment on this. Am I missing something. What is going on with the stupid narration?

Tomacco
04-14-2003, 11:45 AM
Narrator? What are you talking about?

Sprtfan14
04-14-2003, 11:55 AM
one of the best of the season...4/5

NoOneFamous
04-14-2003, 12:08 PM
About the narrator - some TVs or cable services have an option to turn on a narrator for blind people. Thats probably what happened.

Tomacco
04-14-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by NoOneFamous
About the narrator - some TVs or cable services have an option to turn on a narrator for blind people. Thats probably what happened.

:LOL:
Hilarious that someone thought it was part of the episode.

Robbie
04-14-2003, 01:10 PM
Heh, that happened on my parents' TV, too, a while back, and my sister also thought it was part of the episode. :LOL:

Anyway, this was a pretty good episode.

Bubble Crum
04-14-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by ProfFrink888
What in the hell does Duffman have to do with anything anyway? (A macho superhero mascot for a beer company in tights at a Medieval Times show has to do with Marge and Homer breaking up temporarily how?)



Since this was one of my fav parts I'll explain (god, I just hate how n00bs have this style of reviewing like they are closing their eyes and swinging their hands until they run into something.) It's an old tv show steriotype that you run into the most embarrasing, important people at the wrong times. When Homer and Marge had a public outburst, they were sitting near man of god Reverend Lovejoy, gossip Mrs. Lovejoy, respected Principal Skinner, and then Duffman, a quirky character, just for a laugh of irony, thrown in, since you obviously arn't supposed to see him as distungushed.

Akbar
04-14-2003, 02:54 PM
The episode needed more sensible humor, most of the humor came out of no where, but it was still a generally good episode.

brancely
04-14-2003, 03:08 PM
Wow, pretty amazing episode, in my opinion, so let's get the review started.

I think that the writers took a poor idea (another Marge and Homer feud mixed with Homer's interaction with gays) and turned it into something better than sucky.

OK, the jigsaw puzzle was lame, but it sure beats some other crappy story openers, such as Tennis the Menace's old people talent show. It started off with some nice foreshadowing (Homer's intervention) and even paved the way to some slight laugh-out-loud moments (Grampa/Maggie, Milhouse's rock tumbler :LOL: ). However, it wasn't without lame gags (Bart's lunch, Homer has all grays, and Nelson's line just made me cringe). Lenny and Carl added some nice flavor. Thankfully, this part didn't take up too much of the episode. I loved the part where the family compared the puzzle's missing piece to other things. It was genuinely funny.

OK, now onto the main plot. The transition wasn't so great (Homer accidentally stumbles onto Marge's Memory Box), but it led to a great flashback. Homer was his usual idiotic self, ignoring Marge for the "S.S. Triangle" and consuming too much alcohol. However, the resulting feud between Marge and Homer seemed forced. Some of the lines were stupid, but some weren't so bad. I liked Patty and Selma's billboard, plus the Mocking Bird song. It did stretch on a little long, though, into the morning (which did contribute some laughter: walking on eggshells).

When Homer left the house, the episode went a little downhill. Kirk's apartment seemed to just take up time, with a tasteless suicide joke and a bunch of divorced men crying. Not funny.

After that, Flanders and Cletus each gave some pointless performances, and what the hell was up with that newspaper box?

Now, when Homer moved in with the gay guys, the episode picked up again. Of course there were some stupid lines and scenes, such as clothes shopping with Homer and walking around naked, but fortuantely gay jokes didn't detract from the episode as a whole. Overall, I enjoyed this chunk of the episode, with several good jokes and the fact that it wasn't really disgusting (Hans Moleman aside...). One of my favorite moments was when Lisa had to read Homer his bed-time story (did anyone else notice that it was Nancy Drew's Clue in the Clock? Nice reference).

Moe disturbed me in this one (they're ruining his character); why did he want to keep Homer drinking, resulting inhis alcohol poisoning? However, it led to the hospital scene, which is where I believe this episode really shined. Dr. Hibbert was great, and I liked how they backed up his tapes with the fact that the nurse was stealing sponges. It was a very touching episode, good in most aspects, with enough great jokes to negate the few lame ones.

Overall, I give it a solid 8/10, or B+/B.

Now, the question: did anyone else have trouble following Marge's character in this episode? At one point, she was just as mad at Homer as he was at her ("Your father can sure be thoughtful when he wants to"), and half the time she really wanted him back (Weird Al Yankovic).

Some great quotes from the episode were:

"Prove me wrong, Silent Bob."
"Looks like you're missing a wife!"
"Tell that to the brave crew of the S.S. Triangle."
"Oh, the popular singer/songwriter/puzzle piece."
"I am at Disneyland... Disneyland!"
"Which will win out? My old-fashioned prejudices or the fact that I've already mixed my laundry with yours?"
"If I was an eight-year-old straight boy, I swear to god I would so be holding your hand right now."
"Reverend Lovejoy, Mrs. Lovejoy, Principal Skinner, Duffman."
"I'm like David Spade without Chris Farley - alone and useless."

Finally, I'd just like to say how thrilled I am that Professor Frink did not show his face in this episode - I am very tired of him.

NoOneFamous
04-14-2003, 04:03 PM
I agree... that newspaper box was a horrible plot device, especially when it magically appeared when Homer was about to make things up with Marge.

Akbar
04-14-2003, 04:17 PM
"Looks like you're missing a wife!" was not great

Mafia
04-14-2003, 07:10 PM
looks like this thread might be bringing out those who wanted nonstop cheap gay jokes, aka: closeted Sclly fans (or not... a terribe attempt at a joke.)


"looks like you're missing a wife" was a cheap shot that I think would be in Homer's character in season 3 or so. (he did wish evil on ned) Since Maude is dead, and Homer doesn't hate Ned as much, it is way too much of a cheap shot. But... Ned did start it...

Heh... narration.... that's gold.

okayagain
04-14-2003, 07:24 PM
I enjoyed the "Looks like you're missing a wife!" line because it was quick and unexpected. I didn't even have time to think about it before I laughed. The way Flanders shrugged it off made it an okay joke, instead of something that would've put a regrettable part in this episode.


About the narrator - some TVs or cable services have an option to turn on a narrator for blind people. Thats probably what happened.

Heh, I remember one time I hit the SAP button on my remote without realizing it. For two days I thought my T.V. was being haunted by a Spanish ghost because the news, The Simpsons, and a couple of other shows were in another language :LOL:

I Am Lion-O
04-14-2003, 08:00 PM
Though I missed half of act 2 I think this was one of if not the worst of the season. It was trying to get laughs out of gays but it didn't work this time. I laughed maybe once. 2/5

Moleman...Hans
04-14-2003, 08:50 PM
Very, very good. Definate 4.5/5 out of 5 but I am going to vote 4/5 becuase I'm an asshole. Only thing I didn't like was that stupid jig saw puzzle thing.

Okayagain is your avatar from Golden Sun? I love that GBA game. It's my favorite Game Boy game actually.

Slurms Mckenzie
04-15-2003, 06:25 AM
Pretty good Episode,4/5

Lady2Hotty
04-15-2003, 04:18 PM
I really liked this episode. That was just about the greatest thing I've seen...Okay well I wouldnt really say the greatest but I think it was a good episode and damn funny! I was laughing all the way through. The only thing that irks me about the whole episode was the kiss, and you all know what kiss I'm talking about....(cringes)... other than that I give it a 4/5.

bmac
04-15-2003, 07:28 PM
Well, i finally downloaded the ep and watched it. And i must say that i enjoyed it very much. Maybe my favorite of season 14. Had some good jokes, a sweet side, and a good flashback seen. I give it a 4.5/5.

MilPool83
04-15-2003, 07:47 PM
Why is it so hilarious Tomacco? It had never happened on my television before. It just turned on during the Simpsons. I had never heard it on any other show. I fail to see the hilarity, but thanks for the useless comment.

So can anyone help me out? What can I do to eliminate the narrator?

Tomacco
04-15-2003, 07:55 PM
Heh, sorry Milpool, it is slightly comical from other people's viewpoints because it's a simple mistake that people seem to be making more than I expected. It happens during Simpsons because the particular show offers Descriptive Video service. You have to deactivate it using a button on your remote, or maybe call your cable company. Not sure.

Tibor
04-15-2003, 08:40 PM
Dammit, I had to miss this one and Channel Surfer gave it a B. That makes three this season... Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade, Born Again, and Three Gays.

Sprtfan14
04-16-2003, 12:08 AM
I just think this season hasn't been too funny, anyone agree?

Friz
04-16-2003, 02:54 AM
I was afraid there would be too much gay bashing, but no! We finally see the full gay side of Homer, of which we have seen glimpses of in several past episodes, and proff that he has finally got over his fear of homosexuals. I enjoyed Hibbert's old tapes, but this is the second episode in one season that has the final scene as "Many Years Later". Getting a little old.

Hmm... Weird Al... Little pointless. Would have been better if he actually sang a song, and not just four lines of non-funny material. Another One Bites the Crust, funny.

Homer's amazingly funny cheap gag at Flanders was good, so was him muttering under his breath "Stupid Flanders and his misleading Silhouette..."

All in all, I would give it a 7/10, or a B-. It isn't the best thing I've seen all season, but it's pretty darn enjoyable.

Simpson Purist
04-16-2003, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Friz
I enjoyed Hibbert's old tapes, but this is the second episode in one season that has the final scene as "Many Years Later". Getting a little old.


I agree completely. It's not that I hate these flash-forwards, but it's the fact that writers are just using it as an excuse to squeeze one more joke out. Whereas in episodes like Rosebud, Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie, and The Front they were used to twist the bottle-cap on the story at hand.

WastedFate
04-17-2003, 12:31 PM
2/5. Was just below average...Not funny at all, and Wierd Al came out of nowhere. It's only redeeming value is that it was a semi-emotional episode and it flowed pretty well.

Anyone else notice that it said "Mike Scully" as the producer? Can anyone explain that?

Gummi de Milo
04-17-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by WastedFate

Anyone else notice that it said "Mike Scully" as the producer? Can anyone explain that?


That could explain it all!

Not a bad episode, but not memorable at all. Dumb plotline that was about as uninteresting as you'd think it would be.

huh?
04-17-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by WastedFate
Anyone else notice that it said "Mike Scully" as the producer? Can anyone explain that?
Where in the show did it say that? Because I remember that in the end, Al Jean was shown as EP.

WastedFate
04-17-2003, 03:21 PM
Said it in the beginning. It made me want to cry. :(

caribou
04-17-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by WastedFate

Anyone else notice that it said "Mike Scully" as the producer? Can anyone explain that?

Mike Scully is still involved with the show. He's been an ordinary producer on pretty much every episode since he left his cushy executive producer chair after "The Parent Rap". Believe me, his influence is not large at all anymore. That's why Homer didn't have sex with Scott Thompson's character after their kiss, and then leave Marge for good after a wacky chase scene...

WastedFate
04-17-2003, 04:23 PM
whew!

Tibor
04-17-2003, 10:28 PM
Was there a chalkboard gag for this episode?

Tomacco
04-18-2003, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by Tibor
Was there a chalkboard gag for this episode?

As usual, nope.

Citizen Kang
04-18-2003, 09:44 AM
4/5 Not Bad Not Great.

SSJSonic
04-18-2003, 11:02 AM
4/5 Much like the other eps this season all being slightly above meh. I liked the "Looks like your missing a wife" line. Homer has been a bit too friendly with Ned lately. The Weird Al wasn't needed but was okay. Bart's ablity to lie is old and has been around since "Bart vs. Australia".

Moleman...Hans
04-19-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Homerpalooza
Mike Scully is still involved with the show. He's been an ordinary producer on pretty much every episode since he left his cushy executive producer chair after "The Parent Rap". Believe me, his influence is not large at all anymore. That's why Homer didn't have sex with Scott Thompson's character after their kiss, and then leave Marge for good after a wacky chase scene...


You forgot that there probably would have been a snake biting Homer's penis on the wacky chase scene.

Rowdy
04-20-2003, 05:04 AM
I was on vacation so I just downloaded it. I was disappointed because it was only the BEST EPISODE since...............who knows? It was that damn good!

Everyone else has already listed their fave moments in all. Just wondering though, did anybody else catch the Warriors parody? Good stuff.

George Cauldron
07-13-2003, 11:35 AM
Of course, it couldn't be better than Homer's Phobia, but this episode was still very good. Quite a few touching emotional moments between Homer and Marge, something that the series has been devoid of for a while. It wasn't as funny as I was hoping, but I enjoyed it. The jigsaw puzzle scenes at the episode's start was well done, even though it took a while to finally get onto the main plot. I didn't really care for that guest star guy with the Serbian sounding surname. That weird guy Al Yankovic or whatever.

Crotis Jivefunk
07-13-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Moleman...Hans
You forgot that there probably would have been a snake biting Homer's penis on the wacky chase scene.

And the only way to get rid of it was sucking out the poison. "I'm sorry Homer, but you're going to die. Heh heh heh.

Glumplich
11-10-2003, 11:53 PM
I watched the episode again last night. I give it a grade of B-.

y2dave2004
11-11-2003, 02:57 AM
2/5. very average

dr.foot
11-11-2003, 09:32 AM
I give it a 4.
I wanted Homer to be in the joust thing, to prove himself.
He just got drunk instead. ehh
The whole part when he jumped out the window was good stuff.

TheBigHurtBEGOOD
11-12-2003, 06:57 AM
NOT too great 3/5

Ivan
12-22-2006, 08:32 PM
I always thought this to be a highlight of Season 14. A great episode by great writer Matt Warburton. The entire thing was actually a great follow up to Homer's Phobia, and it was good to see how Jean decided to actually borrow something from the classic era to try and make this episode successful. Well...it worked. And for once, I enjoyed the guest appearance(s). I was crying because I was laughing so hard in the scene where Homer meets Smithers in the gay section of Springfield ("Hey Waylon, who's the BEAR?? Ooh, is that the Mr. Burns you're always talking about?" / "No. Shut UP, Stewart." / "Nice to meet you Stewart!") heh, good stuff. It was a little uncomfortable seeing Homer kiss his roomate, however. Also, in the end credits, we see a shot not in the episode (of Marge and Lisa cleaning under the refrigerator). I demand to see that entire scene!

5/5

HardcoreBadAss1982
12-22-2006, 08:39 PM
I agree that this episode rocked. It's one of my favorites and few that I have watched over and over without waiting for the DVDs. The only thing in regards to what you just said is that I am always bothered by the trolley guy's "Woof"....it's not pronounced that way on this coast. 8-)

brody
12-22-2006, 08:40 PM
Definitely one of season 14's stronger episodes. It was nice to see a Homer-Marge marriage episode that didn't feature them yelling at each other. I would have prefer the gays not being so stereotypical, but other than that it was a nice outing.

B+

Stevie V. Scrivello
12-23-2006, 11:26 AM
I enjoyed this one. I felt that it suffered from stereotyping a bit as well, but who am I to complain; there are worse offenders out there. It's probably one of the better recent marraige episodes out there,(beaten to death as the plotline may be..) in my opinion.

My two favorite bits? Homer running into Smithers and the exchange that followed (recanted in its hillarious detail by Ivan up there), and the Weird Al Yankovic thing. Yeah, I'm a sucker for Weird Al.

So, 4.5/5...or rounding up, 5/5. I'm feeling generous today.

Philip Cheesesteak
12-23-2006, 11:30 AM
Hilarious and well-plotted, 5/5 - A.

Rococo Fox
02-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Not anything too remarkable or special, but pretty much a well-done episode with some good jokes and characterizations. It was odd that they never resolved the plot twist of Grady being interested in Homer, but most of the plot was decently-developed. The ending was a bit abrupt and anticlimactic, but was--again--decent. It was also a bit strange that Homer suddenly had almost no ounce of homophobia in him and was embracing the culture, although this is the attitude I would expect from Homer much more than the one he showed in Homer's Phobia. Despite Smithers' cameo being another gay joke, I liked it in this one. Overall, 4/5.

|Mr.Sparkle|
02-08-2008, 09:52 PM
it's a funny episode, but I never really liked it too much, well that is other then the Weird Al part, that was funny!

Moe Nopoly
02-09-2008, 12:37 AM
A surprisingly good episode from season 14 imo.
The story is interesting and has many funny moments.
I like also Homer's part in this episode a lot.
The song "Homer and Marge" was great too :D

4/5

Starman
07-12-2008, 07:06 PM
I like it. Nothing too special, but any problems the episode has I don't mind, it's a guilty pleasure episode regardless. I thought it had tonnes of great gags, some not-so-great gags, but great animation and some truly excellent Homer characterisation. My favorite moments:

http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=282 http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=280 http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=281
http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=284 http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=283 http://www.nohomers.net/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=285

B+

TerwilligerBob
07-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Not great, but amazingly good for season 14, which is a notably horrible season (i.e. worse than 13 and 15) I liked the genuinely touching moments between Homer and Marge, which WEREN'T ruined by some stupid "joke". And Weird Al's lyrics were simly hilarious. A(nother) really irritating in later seasons is the excessive sucking up to celebrity guest stars, making them all positive and unfunny. Weird Al certainly wasn't, and it gains points for that. 4/5

Fox Executive
07-14-2008, 04:59 AM
Once again, I totally agree with TerwilligerBob and just say B+

Van Houten
07-15-2008, 12:39 AM
I can't really say anything bad about this episode but it's not outstanding either. As a Weird Al fan I loved his appearance even though it wasn't incorporated into the story that well. Just thinking about the Smithers scene is making me laugh :LOL: Homer's "singer slash songwriter slash puzzle piece" line was strangely funny to me along with the announcer from the medieval restaurant. The way Homer and Marge got back together was quite nice.
4/5

ahhgoobras
07-15-2008, 01:20 AM
Great episode IMO so i give it a 4/5 not quite a 5/5 but good very good

Dewey Finn
10-19-2008, 11:41 AM
It's pretty entertaining and above-average for early Jean era, I guess. There were several funny moments (some gay-related jokes, as expected) and plot was very decent and nothing really wrong with it. There were some emotion going along also. Overall, nothing really wrong with the episode and it's above-average... B+

Homer Alone
10-19-2008, 12:02 PM
4/5, good episode, but could be alot better.

The Sovereign
10-19-2008, 12:55 PM
a generous 3/5 cause i dont remember it that well but i remember it not being very good...