How would you rate THE BLUNDER YEARS episode?

[Tomacco]

Well, this is it! Scully's final outing! Here's the episode description for today's episode:

When Homer takes Marge out for a much-needed night out on the town, the pair dine at a nightclub where a hypnotist places Homer under a spell. Unable to snap out of it, he's left screaming even after he goes home. Lisa concludes Homer is traumatized by some terrifying event of the past and has a repressed memory. Marge cooks up a memory-sharpening tool causing a hypnotized Homer to reflect on his past escapades in search of the origin of his paranoia. Homer's trace down memory lane leads to some shocking discoveries about his (along with Lenny, Carl, and Moe as children) involvement with the death of Ernest K. Smithers.

I've been looking forward to this one for awhile, so I hope it lives up to my own hype! Heh heh.

[Tirefire]

Yeah man, I've been waitin for this one, it really sounds good.

[barneybeergumble]

I've been waiting for this one also. It sounds pretty good. A week seems like the longest time when your talking about the simpsons. Is this thread for reviews also? If it is, it should be on sticky right about now.

[Tomacco]

Yeah, I want this to be for reviews also, so people won't be switching betwen threads. So, to everyone, if you make another thread, I'll just delete it. One episode doesn't need more than one thread.

[milpool]

Wow, that's a pretty totalitarian statement... At any rate, this week's episode does look like it will be great. They all are, in some respect.

[Richiewhiteboy]

Yeah, I can't wait to see Homer, Lenny, Carl, and Moe as children.

[Drew]

I love when they have flashbacks in the episodes. A whole episode with flashbacks will be even better. :D

[Tomacco]

http://www.thespringfieldshopper.com/promocabf21b.jpg

Right from the moment I read the description for thios episode last year, I thought this episode looked like a parody of "Stand By Me", the flashback movie where a kid and his three friends go searching for a dead body. In this episode, Homer and his three friends search for the body of Ernest K. Smithers. Now that I see the picture above, I believe even more that this will be a parody of the movie. The characters are even dressed like the 4 kids in Stand By Me!

[Mr. Plow]

after viewing tonight's episode, fill out the poll & type down your reviews on Scully's last episode. cya at 8:30 est

[StrideR]

I really hope it's good. It's Scully's last chance to make a good impression on me.

[BangBangBart]

I can't wait, it sounds soooo awesome!

[blockyourfather]

Thou will be done.

[Prof. Frink13]

on earth as it is in heaven

[StrideR]

I saw the previews, and I'm kinda a little put off by Homer's screaming. It's not his trademark scream. I first noticed this one in "Trilogy of error." It's just not like the Homer I know.

I hope I'm just complaining about nothing.

[David]

give us this day

[StrideR]

I smell a lawsuit.

[BangBangBart]

Our daily beer

[David]

and forgive us from spamming

[Cole]

Less than 4 and a half hours till it airs! I can hardly wait. I am excited about Futurama tonight too.

[DotheBartman]

I've wanted to see this one for a while, that and "She of Little Faith". Hopefully it will be another great episode. I kinda wish Fox would show more detailed information in the previews than Homer screaming though. Fox always tends to advertise the least good parts, it seems.

[Matty]

Well, not as good as expected.. I was dissappointed with it. The first act was pretty weak, Homer screaming was a pain in the ears... Could've used a few more 'Child' scenes and (funny) jokes. It seemed over pretty fast because of the first act, what was a shame. At least the plot kept this thing interesting, Smither being gay was explained and Moe got funny over the end credits..

6,5/10

[PrinceBejeeta]

:D I found the new episode on irc, connect to any dal net server and go to channel #simpsons-central and type /ctcp [sc]NewEncodes XDCC Send #1. Other people probale have it there as well but it's kinda busy at the moment so you may have to wait a while if you want it.You could also try #simpsons they might have it.

oh and i forgot to say register your nick or u won't be able to join the channel.

[AnswerMan]

I'm sorry to disappoint you all, but this episode, "The Blunder Years," is without a doubt, worthy of the TOP 5 WORST SIMPSONS EPISODES EVER AIRED. It is just disgraceful, with virtually zero plot. The only laugh is from Homer's constant screaming as shown in the previews. I can't believe how bad this episode was. Just see for yourself.

[blockyourfather]

For some reason, I love flashback episodes, and The Blunder Years is no exception; Homer's screaming fit was overused, but still funny. However, the revelation of Smithers, Sr. was unwelcome IMO.

[Tirefire]

I dunno, it wasn't all that great, it had some good parts.
Plot was not horribly far fetched.
The whole Moe and Carl and Lenny leaving the house
part was really time consuming.
Probably my favorite part was when
Homer was lying still face down on the sofa
and you could hear the muffled screams.
Oh yeah, and the part where Homer says, "See
Lisa, now do you believe dead rats float."
And she says yes in a terrified voice.

I give it a C

[Handsome Pete]

Review: "The Blunder Years"

Well, that's the end of the Scully era. Anyway, this week's episode was pretty good. Not joke driven, really, but still good enough. It was interesting to see Smithers' father. There were some inconsistencies
in this episode, but I didn't mind them too much.

Grade: B+

[Drew]

Wow, this was one of the best episodes. The whole thing was real funny. The plot all tied toghther. It was all a good use of minor characters. The barney part was really funny. I also liked the part where fat tony and his crew were all hanging out growing weed. Great episode. Whoever didnt like this episode shouldnt even be watchin the show. So stop bitching. It was a good episode.

[ShineMcShiney]

Not a single laugh. All the jokes seemed stale, dumb, or just plained reeked off effort. The only thing that got even a chuckle from me was Burn's "If you see only one movie this year proving my innocence..." which still seemed labored. The plot was okay, but I'd rather have liked seeing the Smither's baby more oppenly display affection for Burns as a foreshadowing to their future relationship.
I give it a C+.

[ShineMcShiney]

That was the last of the Scully's. And now for the era of Al Jean and Jon Vitti....revisited.

[Tomacco]

Total wasted potential. I'll write my full review on my site soon enough.

[AnswerMan]

Drew.

If I don't find this episode funny, that means I shouldn't be watching the show? I have put up with a lot of Simpsons crapola over the years, and this episode pushed the limit. Pure stupidity, not a single laugh, and I think that if anyone thinks this episode is at least average, they shouldn't deserve to watch the show.

[Drew]

After reading peoples reviews. I am questioning if any of you even like the Simpsons? You all love the sites, but do you really like the show anymore? I am still a fan, I can say that much, are you?

[Tomacco]

Did anyone notice how freakin' RE-USED that Frink hypnotism joke was!?! It was taken directly from "Grampa vs Sexual Inadequacy"!

Anyways, more detail on my review - score: 2/5

[Tirefire]

A real fan wouldn't be out there saying, "If you thought this episode was good then you shouldn't be watching Simpsons anymore, or he wouldn't be saying if you thought this episode was bad then you shouldn't be watching Simpsons anymore. He would be out there being mindful of opinions and trying to get more people to watch a show, that continues to be funny over the years, so that there is still alot of interest for it and so that it keeps running and running.
Homer: Sort of like the Energizer Bunny.
mmmmm..... Energizer.
Marge: Homer, nooo! Don't eat the batteries.

[AnswerMan]

Did anyone notice how much that episode sucked. They had several characters from when they were young, got no laughs out of everyone. Fat Tony and his gang growing weed.....bah Carl raving about the internet of his swim trunks....bah And Marge acting like an idiot throughout the entire episode.....dumb And Homer looking fatter on the couch than ever before......bah Episode rating: 0/15

[AnswerMan]

Sorry, I cannot promote a Series that produces show after show of unfunny plots. Just because the Simpsons was at once the best, doesn't mean that I will have pity for them.

[ShineMcShiney]

Originally posted by AnswerMan
Drew.

If I don't find this episode funny, that means I shouldn't be watching the show? I have put up with a lot of Simpsons crapola over the years, and this episode pushed the limit.

You've seen the last seasons, and you consider THIS to be the nadir? Well, I guess our tastes differ, because I thought it was just the usual amount of lame. No more lame, no less lame than anything on any current episode of the Simpsons.

It plunged right into the toilet with Bart to the Future in my op. Before it was only hovering.

[Mr. Plow]

it was ok. homer screaming got annoying. the end was a little creepy
3/5

[AnswerMan]

If you think about this episode, it had zero plot. Lets see, Marge is obsessed with stupid paper towels, they go to a restaurant and Homer remembers troubled memories. Then they wonder whats wrong with him and discover its from his childhood. Then there is just a complete waste of time about unfunny jokes. Then Homer realizes that it was a dead corpse and that it was Smithers Sr. WOW BAD.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Tirefire
A real fan wouldn't be out there saying, "If you thought this episode was good then you shouldn't be watching Simpsons anymore, or he wouldn't be saying if you thought this episode was bad then you shouldn't be watching Simpsons anymore. He would be out there being mindful of opinions and trying to get more people to watch a show, that continues to be funny over the years, so that there is still alot of interest for it and so that it keeps running and running.
Homer: Sort of like the Energizer Bunny.
mmmmm..... Energizer.
Marge: Homer, nooo! Don't eat the batteries.
A real fan wouldnt insult every episode either.

[AnswerMan]

Hmmm. I don't recall insulting ANY episode except this one. Nice try though.

[ShineMcShiney]

Listen, the Simpsons suck...at least they do in their current incarnations. Blame the writers(who once consisted mostly of Harvard grads. ONCE...). I have high hopes though, because this is the end of the Mike Scully era, who plunged this show right down the (boob) tube.

[AnswerMan]

Well said Shiney.

[Jessica Lovejoy]

Okay, some of you people really need to calm down. We're all entitled to our own opinions but can we PLEASE keep our arguments tasteful? It's not necessary to accuse someone of not being a fan because they like/dislike the current episodes.

As for my review of The Blunder Years...

I though this episode was pretty decent. The only thing that I really didn't like was the trick that Homer and Bart played on Marge; it seemed really immature and just plain dumb on Homer's behalf (which isn't exactly unusual now and days but hey, I'm just saying). I think another major problem with this episode was that it was kinda rushed, especially the last scene. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't exactly memorable either. I give it a B-

[James]

About an average episode, but better than most Scully crop. The flashback scenes were pure gold, with a grand young Moe, Lenny, and Carl, and the young Fat Tony. I think, though, the whole Ernest K. Smithers mystery was rather quick, flat, dry, and unexciting. It seemed to go by quickly and simply. What people said about the Bounty towels thing wasn't right. It was a great part of the episode, especially where it soaks up everything and Mama Celeste: "You touch me, I cuta you!"!

[Mr. Plow]

the episode had a great plot, it just wasnt a funny episode. a decent farewell to scully. Now for the al jean episodes. hopefully they wont drag down season 13 to the hellhole its in right now

[Drew]

This was a great episode. Many laughs.

[lisa_the_greek]

It was alright... I liked how a lot of it was in the Simpsons' Living Room, that room isn't used as much as it used to be. However, it wasn't as good as I thought it would be. Not enough of the flashbacks....
grade: B-

I can't wait until next week's!!! The plot and jokes have lots of potential.....

King of the Hill was great. I loved Peggy's saying guns are penis subsitutions... That was such a "Peggy" thing to say. However, something bugged me about Dale's voice. Did anyone notice something?!
Grade: B

Eh, Futurama seemed to be lacking.... I dunno what it was, but it didn't rub me the right way(usually, every episode gets an A or A+ from me)..... Fry being his own grandfather was SOOO Futurama, though...
Grade: B+

Malcolm was... a disaster. WHY were Lois and Hal crying?!?! Dewey was a total brike....
Grade: C

[AnswerMan]

Where is the 0/5 ranking?

[Voodoo Monkey]

My thoughts...

Not that bad of an episode. Some good, some bad. Carl's Internet joke...yeah. Marge's unorthodox situation to the lake...blah. Smithers' dad dying...blah.

Questions...

1) In Moe's 'clues', did he have gravel or Gravol?

2) Why did Marge have paper towels at the lake?

3) Why did Barney appear to be drunk?

Subtleties...

1) The 'Amazon tribe killing Ed K. Smithers' joke seemed to remind me of an episode of Futurama.

[Mr. Plow]

hey it wasnt that bad

or was it?

[Jake]

Tonight, Homer gets trapped in an area of "chaotic plot" where the story varies randomly...

Someone must've passed the hypno coin thingy around the writer's room to let this plot slip past quality control. I guess in order to find problems to a plot, and subsequently fix them before an airing, a plot has to exist in the first place.

In short, this episode sucked....big time.

Hey, I truly had high hopes for this episode. Ever since I first read
the spoilers, I've been looking forward to seeing, and hearing, Homer screaming his head off. As for being Mike Scully's last episode to air, it had some of his best production values yet!

Grade: F


Jake

[Mr. Plow]

hey wut happend to my poll i made? now it says it was made by tomacco when it was made by me? wtf im confused

[Voodoo Monkey]

I think Tomacco's merging your post with his.

[thecapecoddah]

Merged the two "Blunder Years" threads, for those wondering. Be careful next time, joshman, as Tomacco already had a thread open for discussion about it. :)

Not *many* laughs in tonight's episode, but a great, solid story. I can't really complain about much, outside of Marge's silly paper towels that soak up everything-and-more. Since there weren't any bigtime LOL moments I can see why some people wouldn't care for this episode, but I guess I'm just a sucker for a nice plot.

And I usually dislike Homer constantly screaming, but I laughed out loud when his scream became more high-pitched when the 20th Century FOX logo appeared at the very end. :LOL:

[thecapecoddah]

Originally posted by joshman
hey wut happend to my poll i made? now it says it was made by tomacco when it was made by me? wtf im confused

People were posting about the episode in both threads, man. I had to do something and I didn't want to close either discussion.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by ryan_the_canuck
3) Why did Barney appear to be drunk?
Because barney is always drunk out of his mind. Maybe, they are trying to tell us that barney is not sober anymore?

[Tomacco]

My full review here:

www.thespringfieldshopper.com/reviewcabf21.htm

I urge you all to read it, because I think I made a good case.

[bartimus prime]

Aww man, I missed it, it sounded like a good episode. Oh well...

[barneybeergumble]

Did anyone notice that Smithers' dads voice was exactly like Chief Wiggum? Pretty weird that they couldn't make his voice like Waylan Smithers.

[Prof. Frink13]

I gave this episode a woo-hoo, I really like flashback episodes and I thought this one had a lot of good jokes

[Mr. Plow]

i liked tomaccos review because it was. but i did like the paper towel thing till bart & homer made fun of marge which was pretty stupid. when my website starts up & running i'll have a review too. . it would be cool if i was the co-threader of this thread. but eh like if give a rats ass. hope next week's episode is an improvement from today's episode

thoh XII-8/10
parent rap-6/10
homer the moe-6/10
hunka hunka burns in love-8/10
blunder years-6/10

[AnswerMan]

Tomacco, great review. Couldn't have summed up that episode better. By the way, that was great observation about the connection between the fire that burned out of the smoke stacks and Smithers Sr.

[thecapecoddah]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Did anyone notice that Smithers' dads voice was exactly like Chief Wiggum? Pretty weird that they couldn't make his voice like Waylan Smithers.

I have to re-watch it but that would be weird since I'm assuming Harry Shearer did Waylon Smithers Sr.'s (stop calling him Ernest K, heh) voice while Azaria does Wiggum. Unless Azaria did both tonight.. then a voice similarity would make sense.

[Jake]

That review on the Shopper wasn't harsh enough.

Jake

[thecapecoddah]

Easy Jake, next week marks a new beginning.... either that or the beginning of the end. :D We'll see what Jean can do.

And since Tomacco's confused by my praise for the episode.... I didn't find it outstanding, as the first act was very weak. I just happened to enjoy the second and third acts, even though their wasn't much comedy at all.

We've seen worse... I think some of you can agree with me on that.

[Tomacco]

You got that right, Eric. I won't get into what episodes I think are worse, because that'll create a domino effect of off-topic discussions.

I think I see why you liked it Eric. You liked the whole mystery thing. You liked the story even though there wasn't a lot of laughs. Kinda like when you liked Futurama's "Luck of the Fryrish" episode, because of the plot, even though it wasn't so funny. I know you. ;)

[radiationdude7]

Originally posted by joshman

thoh XII-8/10
parent rap-6/10
homer the moe-6/10
hunka hunka burns in love-8/10
blunder years-6/10

you know, you can simplify all of those fractions. :D
As for my review. I thought it was a B. Not the best. Not the worst. The prank was great, and I like how marge said, "I'm glad this prank didn't end with fire." :)
This episodes plot seemed to be squeezed in to it 22 minutes of fun. When i saw the end credits, I was like, it can't be over yet. I loved the flashbacks. Espcially when they were discussing their name. "The Moe Scyslak experience featuring Homer.'' :LOL:
As for answerman, are you that much of a non-fan. You are entitled to an opinion. Take notes from Jake on how to diss the show gracefully. or else you have no place here.

[DotheBartman]

Wow, alot of negative review here. Tomacco makes a good case in his review, but still I thought that for a Scully episode this was pretty damn good. Anyways, first I'll mention a few things I didn't like:

1. Continuality errors. Homer, I thought, actually started working at the plant the day it opened (as stated in Homer's Enemy), but now it opened when he was a kid. Also, the episode would seem to state that Smithers was born after Homer, yet I think Homer was originally supposed to be older than Homer. Oh well.

2. Barney's appearance. It was funny, but maybe they shouldn't have done that. He's supposed to be sober. Guess that fits with number one.

3. The Frink thing. Again, funny, but it's already been used, as Tomacco stated.

As for the rest of the episode, there really wasn't much to hate. Marge was funny in the first act (since when have they actually used Marge?), and it was nice seeing the Pimento Grove again, and finding out for sure that Sam the barfly is alive (he was sitting next to Moe) was interesting. I also noticed that all the pictures in the background were of guest stars on the show(with the exception of Ranier Wolfcastle and Big Bird). Homer hypnotized was moderately funny, and when they got the main plot I was surprised how interesting it got. Seeing Fat Tony as a kid was funny, as was Moe with acne. One of the funniest parts, however, was Moe desperately wanting to help with the case "bye Moe!". For some reason I was laughing out loud there. Wiggum provided a few laughs later, and one of the biggest shockers was seeing Burns when the light came on (when I first saw him in the dark, I actually said "Burns?" aloud to myself, then found out I was right). The film we saw was actually pretty touching, and the explanation of Smithers' sexuality provided a good laugh.

In my opinion, not as good as I hoped it would be, but still a quality episode. Not Scully's best, but one of his better ones.

B+

And so far the grades are: B,B,D-,B+,B+

[Silent_G]

It had some good moments..but I see what you mean about reused themes.. The Prof. Frink joke I said the same thing.. already done.
Also the flash back with Homer, Lenny and Carl singing reminded me of The Barber Shop Quartet ep...only Lenny and Carl weren't in it..Makes me wonder why they were never concidered to join?
One line that cracked me up was when Moe drank the tea and yelled out "Woah! That's some good yakie!" He sounded like Prof. Frink..I know that Hank Azaira does both their voices but that was too funny. Also Burn's trying to be safety inspector in his film was funny too.. and the talking during the credits is always a plus too!

[StrideR]

"new ep hater" in da house (If I use stale crappy phrases like this again, shoot me). Unfortunately (or fortunately), I didn't catch this ep until Moe is basically kicked out of the house (a gagless, yet funny scene), and it was on a black and white TV (I was at work, ok?), which toned down the garish colors a bit. From what I saw, it didn't seem any worse than any of the episodes aired recently. I am currently shocked to see that almost everybody here was disappointed. I was sure the majority vote was going to be a 4/5. Hmmm, maybe we are finally getting to the same page.

So, is everybody glad that Scully's gone? This moment puts me back 2 seasons ago, when I was nervous where the series was going after each episode. May we never speak of this era again. For me, it has truly been a bad dream. I just hope it ended with "Blunder Years."

:shocked:

[Tomacco]

Okay I gotta know what that reference is! In "Day of Jackanapes", Bob went "Mmmm, that's GOOD plastic explosive" in a weird voice, and tonight, Moe said the same about the tea. WHAT'S THE DEAL?

[Silent_G]

Also Bart went "Woah! That's a good squishy!" when he drank the one made entirely out of syrup. It must reference something..but I dunno. It just sounds funny how the voices change. :LOL:

[Lance_Murdock]

I thought it was a great episode... By far, not the best...but not deserving of all of these negative reviews.

This place sounds like a Comic Book Guy Convention...

:LOL:

"Uh oh, he has a Daisy. We better scram! Eighteen more pumps and it'll be able to break the skin."

[Lenny]

man, everyone is so harsh.... I also thought there would be higher grades for this one. Seems like everyone beat the sh*t out of this ep. Probably because everyone's expectations were so high.

Well, here's what I thought: Overall, I gave it a B. For those of you who said that there wasnt any plot, or that it made no sense, you were obviously high or drunk, or have a major stick up your ass. *waits for some nasty comments* I thought the plot was pretty good, compared to other recent episodes. It wasnt all over the place and it seemed well-conected throughout. Except, I agree that it went by too quickly. I think they should have just started the episode at the restaurant, and went from there. Then they could have had some more time with the flashbacks. The flashback definetly went by too quickly. And there werent many laughs, i agree, but the decent plot made up for that.
but here's the funny parts that i liked:
"what's a skelator?" -Homer
the internetting thing
coupon for free guitar lessons
amazon tribe-smithers sexuality revealed. that was great.
the screaming was super funny i thought.

[Richiewhiteboy]

It's supposed to be a take-off of Jackie Gleason. Bart did the same thing in 'Boy scouts in the hood'

[DotheBartman]

You know, I just realized a goof. Homer has the shopping cart thrown back in the water, yet, when the water is drained, its not there anymore.

[Richiewhiteboy]

After i watched this episode the first time I thought it was the worst thing I've ever seen. But after watching it a few more times I caught a few more of the jokes and it wasn't as bad as I thought. A lot of stuff was funnier the second and third time around. Some of the best jokes: Homer saying "Marge hasn't asked me for an autographed photo in months." Homer as Chad Sexington when Marge asks him how he got her # he says "I don't know." Then when Marge tells him about it he says he's gonna be here soon so she better get her hopes up. At the Pimento Grove Marge admits that it was a good prank and says "I like the ones without fires." to which Homer replies "The only thing that gets hurt is feelings." Frink's transformation was so unfunny it was painful, and not to mention that it has been used already. Almost nothing from the flashback was funny, except when Homer is explaining about how he found the corpse "There was something else down there, something......else." When their driving to the quarry and Homer says "The quarry is just a stones throw away." Lisa: "Stop saying that" Homer: "Never." Wiggum was pretty much useless except when he says he wants to follow the simpsons because he's a "Crime buff." Marge soaking up the lake with paper towels was stupidand the whole explanation with Smithers dad was icing on a poor episode. A funny part from that sequence was when Burns says that he originally told Smithers that his father was killed by an Amazon womens tribe and then tells Smithers "I hope it hasn't affected you." Smithers:"We'll never know." Or maybe we will. Moe's thing at the end was kind of lame but after a few views I'm liking this episode a little more so I give it a C

[Richiewhiteboy]

Yeah I noticed a goof too. According to this episode Smithers is about 30 years old, yet according to 'The Simpsons 138th episode Spectacular' Smithers is in his mid-40's

[Richiewhiteboy]

Oh, I got another one. In some episode previews they said Smithers dad was named Ernest K. Smithers, but he was Wayland Smithers Sr in the episode.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy
Yeah I noticed a goof too. According to this episode Smithers is about 30 years old, yet according to 'The Simpsons 138th episode Spectacular' Smithers is in his mid-40's

Actually, considering Homer is 36 years old (and Smiters is apparently tweleve years younger than him), he would be in his twenties, which made no real sense.

[Silent_G]

Also notice another flashback in last season's "Bye Bye Nerdie" when Homer was talking to Lisa about bullies. They flashback to Homer beating up Smithers in school...

[strife0000]

I dont know why no one has noticed this yet. How did that tape of Smithers Sr's death have multiple camera angles? The camera cut to individual faces when they spoke and there was a camera inside of the reactor core showing Burns looking in. That completely ruined it for me.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Lenny
man, everyone is so harsh.... I also thought there would be higher grades for this one. Seems like everyone beat the sh*t out of this ep. Probably because everyone's expectations were so high.

Or, maybe because the episode was...bad? Don't worry, just be a true fan and watch it 10-15 times, then it'll magically appear funnier. :P

Well, here's what I thought: Overall, I gave it a B. For those of you who said that there wasnt any plot, or that it made no sense, you were obviously high or drunk, or have a major stick up your ass. *waits for some nasty comments* I thought the plot was pretty good, compared to other recent episodes.

Let me guess, you haven't seen other recent episodes, right?

It wasnt all over the place and it seemed well-conected throughout.

It was connected as well as a derailed freight-train. The pieces came together on some level, but the whole was an unmistakeable mess.

And there werent many laughs, i agree, but the decent plot made up for that.

Pardon my assertiveness, but you must be lying or stupid to think the strengths of "The Blunder Years" was the cohesive plot and/or progression of storyline. To paraphrase Leela: "Tonight's episode was like a prom dress made from carpet samples."

Jake

[Jamie]

Whatever happened to that "Hey, let's all lighten up!" thread about a month back?

[Jake]

Originally posted by Jamie
Whatever happened to that "Hey, let's all lighten up!" thread about a month back?

I'd prefer to darken down.

Jake

[thecapecoddah]

C'mon Jake, don't pick on poor Lenny... be a big man and attack *my* favorable review... because as you know, I'm an idiotic-plot lover who has also been lying through my episode reviews for years now. :D

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by Silent_G
Also notice another flashback in last season's "Bye Bye Nerdie" when Homer was talking to Lisa about bullies. They flashback to Homer beating up Smithers in school...

It could have just been someone who likes Smithers, or so the writers would have us believe.

[Richiewhiteboy]

As soon as I finished watching the episode I thought is was the worst thing since sliced bread, but instead of getting online right away and bashing it, I watched a few more times and realized that it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. I think that before everyone starts reviewing these they should at least watch the episode twice.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Number One
C'mon Jake, don't pick on poor Lenny... be a big man and attack *my* favorable review... because as you know, I'm an idiotic-plot lover who has also been lying through my episode reviews for years now. :D

Well, you didn't have comments that have: you must have a stick up your ass/you must be high/you're drunk, which warrant a smartass reply.

But if you insist, all I'll say is there's nothing wrong with an idiotic plot as long as it has some humor to compensate. Tonight's ep had near zero humor. Hell, I'd even say this episode had anti-humor--scenes that were so bad, they made you forget the funny parts.


Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy
As soon as I finished watching the episode I thought is was the worst thing since sliced bread, but instead of getting online right away and bashing it, I watched a few more times and realized that it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. I think that before everyone starts reviewing these they should at least watch the episode twice.

I had net access five years ago and almost all the episodes were A and B quality the first time I saw them and I was online registering my delight. So, why is it now do we have to watch the show five times to find humor in it? So our love for the show will drown out the 'bad' parts and we absorb it into our collective Simpsons psyche?

A good Simpsons episode ages like fine wine. A bad Simpsons episode is like a rotten Pizza, gross in small doses, and lethal if you try to take it all in. IMO, the cheese already starting to turn on "The Blunder Years."

Jake

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by Jake


Well, you didn't have comments that have: you must have a stick up your ass/you must be high/you're drunk, which warrant a smartass reply.

But if you insist, all I'll say is there's nothing wrong with an idiotic plot as long as it has some humor to compensate. Tonight's ep had near zero humor. Hell, I'd even say this episode had anti-humor--scenes that were so bad, they made you forget the funny parts.


Jake

I beg the differ. I think this episode had a good share of funny parts. Read my post up at the begging of the page. You just need to watch it a few times. However I do agree about the anit-humor (Wiggum's giutar lessons?) The story was bad and the over all episode wasn't impressive to say the most.

[Lisa Lionheart]

I love flashback episodes and I can't believe that they wasted an opportunity like this... I just hope that these problems were the product of Mike Scully and the innane episodes end with him.

Easily one of the top ten worse episodes ever!

[Necromancer]

I missed the episode so i cant vote dammit, i want to see it dammit but no one has it on Morpheus yet dammit

[Richiewhiteboy]

I am evil Homer. LOL

[morbot]

The first act was really bad. The paper towel thing was just dumb... BUT at least they brought it back into the story rather than never bringing it up again, as so many first acts do. So the use of it in the story redeemed it a bit in the end, but it just wasn't funny.
"Lisa + Marge != Funny"
(if you understand that, seek help)

The rest of the episode was alright. I enjoyed the "I just logged into my internet." and the story about Waylans dad being killed by women having no effect on him.

Overall, I wasn't impressed. But it wasn't completely horrible to watch. Rather mediocre overall.

[Richiewhiteboy]

It seems that they had a few attempts to incorporate the beginning of the episode into the rest of it. At least they tried instead of leaving those early sub-plots out to dry. Both of the attempts were in vain as they were low points of the episode. There was the paper towels drying the lake and The hypnotist opening his mail.

[Tomacco]

Can I ask what was funny about Chief Wiggum's "cpipon for free guitar lessons" line? IT MADE NO SENSE! I don't care if he's suppose to be dumb, that's just pushing the limit. Can someone explain that "Stone's through away" thing with Homer and Lisa? I don't remember him saying it once before, so why did Lisa tell him to stop saying it? And what was with Lisa's "Murder most foul?" or whatever she said? What was with Marge calling Lisa home from school to show her the towels? Someone explain how all of this stuff doesn't detract from the episode.

[Eat_Up_Martha]

This episode was so bad, my review can be summed up in a single word:

SUCKHOLE

So long, Scully. Don't come back now, ya hear!

[StrideR]

Since I can't fairly assess the episode, I won't vote or grade it. To those who have to see an episode again before they can enjoy it, I have one thing to say. Almost anything will look better when you re-examine it because you'd have gotten used to the bad parts. But why must we re-examine an ep before we like it? What's your least favorite series? Did you have to rewind and re-watch one of the episodes to decide that it sucked? I understand that some people feel they judged the episode harshly the first time. If it didn't impress you the first time, then you shouldn't have to look for the silly gags that could have made you laugh.

[J.Re*]

anyone notice that Barney wasnt sober?

[:bang:]

I thought that the Blunder Years wasn't so much bad, as it was boring, and by boring I mean I almost fell asleep. I'd give a longer review, but there wasn't all that much memorable about it so screw it. ABC-ya Scully...

[Phoney McRing Ring]

Originally posted by drew karaniuk
After reading peoples reviews. I am questioning if any of you even like the Simpsons? You all love the sites, but do you really like the show anymore? I am still a fan, I can say that much, are you?

Thats what i'm saying man...im so disgusted at people's opinion of the newest episodes.
but Drew, do you notice week after week, these pinheads come right back in and say blah blah, its been down the tube since ____, blah blah new writers, end the show, i didn't laugh once....how could you not laugh once...
I notice that after ive seen an episode i didn't entirely like and i watch it again later down the line, i actually think its funnier...
And for that idiot, i dont know who it was, the one that says if you say this is even an average episode, you're not a fan..WOW what a load of bull crap, if you dislike the newer episodes, maybe the simpsons isn't the show for you. I notice all the "true" fans on this thing and they always come in, reviewing positively each time...

Now, who cares if people respond to this like im some idiot, or ranting that its their opinions, i agree i like hearing stuff like...not that good or it was ok..but when you say anyone who likes most recent episodes isn't a simpson fan, thats just plain retarded...


And while im on the subject of complaining, why the hell is this - :smoking: - an icon, promoting smoking, why dont they just put a guy with pot, hell, how about a smiley injecting heroin, maybe with a white line below his nose....


De Goggles do nothing

[ShineMcShiney]

Dig that sweet, sweet nicotine flava... :smoking:

[Mike Scully]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Can I ask what was funny about Chief Wiggum's "cpipon for free guitar lessons" line? IT MADE NO SENSE! I don't care if he's suppose to be dumb, that's just pushing the limit. Can someone explain that "Stone's through away" thing with Homer and Lisa? I don't remember him saying it once before, so why did Lisa tell him to stop saying it? And what was with Lisa's "Murder most foul?" or whatever she said? What was with Marge calling Lisa home from school to show her the towels? Someone explain how all of this stuff doesn't detract from the episode.

Chief Wiggum's line wasn't funny. That's what the posters were saying, that this was one of the unfunny jokes from this episode.

With the stone quarry scene, the implication was that Homer had been telling that joke all throughout the car ride, before we got to actually see the car ride scene.

I didn't understand Lisa's comment "Murder most foul comment" either.

Marge calling Lisa home was kind of a running joke. Marge is alone at home all day, and she resorts to desparate measures for companionship. Kind of like in Bart On the Road, when everyone is gone from home, so she ends up trying to comfort Maggie.

[Beepela]

I think it was a good episode, just not a great episode. I thought things were funny, but I never laughed out loud. I did enjoy watching it though, and for free entertainment, what more can you ask for, right? It did seem a bit thrown together though. Is it really that hard to check on things like the correct ages of the characters? What Smithers' father's name is? Whether or not Barney is sober? It seems like, of all people, the writers should know these things. it kind of detracts from the viewing experience in my opinion, unless they are doing it in a funny/satirical way, which they clearly were not doing last night. I mean they wouldn't have 12 year old Homer hang out with a 4 year old Bart or Lisa would they? No, because it doesn't make sense. Nor does it make sense to have 12 year old Homer at the same time as baby Smithers. Same thing about the power plant existing. *sigh* So sad. Anyway, I did think there were a lot of funny things going on. I liked the screaming, I liked the flashback. I thought the paper towel thing was funny for one second, and then was annoyed by it for the rest of the show. Oh well. Looking forward to next week.

[Doaho]

Like some people have mentioned... the age part just doesn't make any senses... I thought Smither and Homer should have the similar age ( in between 30 to 40). okay now they say Homer is around 10 years younger than Smithers... WTF! and Mr. Burns raised Smithers when he was a baby?!? and wasn't Mr. Burns hired Smithers?
Other than the age part plus knowing Lenny, Carl and Moe when Homer was 12, everything made sense. Furthermore, this episode doesn't have all those stupid/meaningless jokes! and i like that!~

I don't think this episode is really that bad...other than those stuff I mentioned above, I kinda enjoy this episode. Hey at least it's better than "Parents Crap" :mad:

[mrkatie]

I don't see why there are such strong opinions about this episode one way or the other. It wasn't that good. It wasn't the worst by any means either. Jake, have you seen "Simpsons Safari" "Kill the Alligator & Run" "Saddlesore Gallactica" or "Bart the Mother." While I have heard people say they've disliked episodes before, it seems many of you just HATED this episode. And I just saw it as average. Wasted potential, but with a good plot and a few good jokes.

[Greg Durand]

My review: I've been looking forward to this episode and it has looked good. I expected a bit more about Homer's childhood, but it was cool. I found the part with Fat Tony funny and the whole plot was well done.
Rating: A-.

[BurningLeprechaun]

I'm personally happy that Carl and Lenny (Carl never gets his name first) are finally getting some of the fame they deserve. I was just saying last week I'd like to see an episode featuring them a little more. As for the episode, it was so-so, just like every other episode this season. I hope they shape up, because last year was a good one.

[Smilin'JoeFission]

I enjoyed this episode, even though the animation was terrible. In some scenes, Homer looked waayy too fat, and Baby Smithers seemed to change size. Also, in that scene where Lenny and Carl go to the house for the first time, Lenny's head went from way too narrow to way to wide. I enjoyed the flashbacks though; nothing was really bad about the animation there, up until the power plant scenes.

The plot was all over the place, much like "Homer the Moe". However, "HtM" had good jokes to support its bad plot. I didn't see the right kind of jokes, with the exception of Mezmirino's "Carnak the Magnificent" sendup, and Cheif Wiggum's guitar lessons. The line aboutn the skull shaped rock and white sticks was too stupid, even for Wiggum.

My opinion- Waylon Smithers Sr. probably died a few years before Homer found the corpse. That would make Smithers Jr.'s age more consitent.

[BurningLeprechaun]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doaho
[B]Like some people have mentioned... the age part just doesn't make any senses... I thought Smither and Homer should have the similar age ( in between 30 to 40). okay now they say Homer is around 10 years younger than Smithers... WTF! and Mr. Burns raised Smithers when he was a baby?!? and wasn't Mr. Burns hired Smithers?




What are you talking about Homer being 10 years younger than Smithers????????? Homer was 12 and Smithers was a baby...making Homer O-L-D-E-R..... by approximately 11 or 12 years. It's toally conceivable too, if it's prematurely grey heir on Smithers

[Mike Scully]

Originally posted by mrkatie
I don't see why there are such strong opinions about this episode one way or the other. It wasn't that good. It wasn't the worst by any means either. Jake, have you seen "Simpsons Safari" "Kill the Alligator & Run" "Saddlesore Gallactica" or "Bart the Mother." While I have heard people say they've disliked episodes before, it seems many of you just HATED this episode. And I just saw it as average. Wasted potential, but with a good plot and a few good jokes.

How the hell can you put Bart the Mother in the same low as those other pieces of crap you mentioned?

[mrkatie]

Originally posted by S. Reddy


How the hell can you put Bart the Mother in the same low as those other pieces of crap you mentioned?

I don't know. Maybe because "Bart the Mother" had horribly unfunny gags. Maybe there was something funny, but I can remember most of the episode and am having trouble coming up with a single gag that was funny outside of Phil Hartman's last appearence which was good for sentimental reasons, not so much for what it was. Bart was so out-of-character and in the worst form I've ever witnessed in the entire series. Bart has always been a badboy and seeing him cry and say that he loves his lizards was almost sickening to me.

[Bluesman]

Thank god Scully is gone. If anyone responded to the Just D'oh It you can see me express my hatred for him there (sort of, I hate him much more now than I did back when I posted that). Stupid prick. Anyway, I thought the Blunder Years was terrible. It just made absolutely no sense at all. Marge obsessing over paper towels and drgging Lisa out of school to demonstrate their absorbancy?! What the hell was that?!? Homer's screaming got to be irritating, and the whole episode was confusing. I watched the damn thing wondering what the hell was going on. Marge was so stupid and annoying it made me want to turn the damn thing off. The episode had potential, and the end result reminded me of the "Poochie" episode (the actual "Poochie" cartoon the Simpsons watched, not the whole episode). How disappointing. This whole season has been a bomb in my opinion. Maybe now since Scully left it will improve. And finally, I can tell all the writers are totally burned out. Every episode this season has started out with a story that (sometimes out of the blue) turns into something completely unrelated. Like how this one began with Marge obsessing over paper towels and it becoming the story of Smithers' father. I think that's the surest sign of doom (if it doesn't go away) that the Simpsons is in its twilight hours.

(I know that rambled a lot, sorry, that episode irritated me)

[Tomacco]

The animation was awful in this episode, as it usually is in odd-numbered episodes! And I just realized that the crappy crazy animation is affecting the characters! I just realized both Homer, Marge, and Lisa ALL seem so much dumber in odd-numbered episodes, and I think it's because of the goofy loose animation. Just look when Homer and Bart are laughing at Marge in the prank scene! They both look like absolute morons! Marge always seems to look like a brain-dead idiot in odd-numbered episodes too. I think this would explain why I like the even-numbered episodes more, generally.

[DotheBartman]

I think I got the "murder most foul" joke. Lisa says that, and then Marge just calmly and casually says "maybe". Its not that funny, but I think the idea was Marge was being a little too casual about a murder case.

[Voodoo Monkey]

Originally posted by DotheBartman
I think I got the "murder most foul" joke. Lisa says that, and then Marge just calmly and casually says "maybe". Its not that funny, but I think the idea was Marge was being a little too casual about a murder case.

Could be, but I think it was just another case of Scully rushing to meet a deadline.

[Cole]

"The Blunder Years" was a dissapointment. In fact, it was the worse episode this season, which says alot. But, in my opinion, this whole season has not been a waste. I really loved "Hunka Hunka Burns In Love." And while "The Parent Rap" and "Homer the Moe" weren't great, they were enjoyable. I just really hope that next week's episode, "She of Little Faith", turns out good. I am huge fan of Al Jean's episodes and I am hoping that it can help me forget how dissapointing such a promising episode as "The Blunder Years" turned out to be. Farwell Scully.

[Drew]

Phony McRing Ring (god, would it of killed you to use your real name?)
but there is finially someone in here who knows what hes talking about. And about that pot thing, there is nothing wrong with it. I am a regular user in "wacky tabaccey" but thats a different story and lets not get into it :smoking: .
Mr. Joe Fission, I noticed the animation in some parts were a little off also. I didnt notice those parts you mentioned, but i did notice how hidious moes face looked. What was that about?

[radiationdude7]

Originally posted by mrkatie


I don't know. Maybe because "Bart the Mother" had horribly unfunny gags. Maybe there was something funny, but I can remember most of the episode and am having trouble coming up with a single gag that was funny outside of Phil Hartman's last appearence which was good for sentimental reasons, not so much for what it was. Bart was so out-of-character and in the worst form I've ever witnessed in the entire series. Bart has always been a badboy and seeing him cry and say that he loves his lizards was almost sickening to me.


Thats the thing about bart. He is a bad boy but he is sensitive. Thats his character. He stated that in the very first episode, when he wouldn't leave SLH.

[Phoney McRing Ring]

Originally posted by drew karaniuk
Phony McRing Ring (god, would it of killed you to use your real name?)
but there is finially someone in here who knows what hes talking about. And about that pot thing, there is nothing wrong with it. I am a regular user in "wacky tabaccey" but thats a different story and lets not get into it :smoking: .
Mr. Joe Fission, I noticed the animation in some parts were a little off also. I didnt notice those parts you mentioned, but i did notice how hidious moes face looked. What was that about?




Phony McRing Ring was from one of those cheesy educational films shown on simpsons, i forget which, and why would i use my reg name...thats lame, be creative

[ShineMcShiney]

Originally posted by drew karaniuk
And about that pot thing, there is nothing wrong with it. I am a regular user in "wacky tabaccey" but thats a different story and lets not get into it :smoking: .

Yeah, that sounds about right...

[unexplained bacon]

Well I never thought I would see the day I would have to think speak or type these words, but here I go. THIS EPISODE SUCKED. There i said it. I can usually find a little bit of good in every thing and every episode but sunday as hard as i tried i could not find one single thing good about the blunder years, not a single thing. Not even the homer screaming fit was all that funny. this was by far the worst episode the series has ever produced and I think it was scully s attempt at sabotageing an other wise flawlees season so far. I come in here and defend the simpsons whenever anyone starts to bad mouth them or sounds a little to much like an elitist ass but I can not in good conscience defend this piece of trash that robbed me of thirty minutes of my life I will never get back.
but i will not judge the rest of the season on one piece of crap. I havent for thirteen seasons and i wont start now or else what kind of fan would i be? :mad:

[Doaho]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doaho
[B]Like some people have mentioned... the age part just doesn't make any senses... I thought Smither and Homer should have the similar age ( in between 30 to 40). okay now they say Homer is around 10 years younger than Smithers... WTF! and Mr. Burns raised Smithers when he was a baby?!? and wasn't Mr. Burns hired Smithers?




What are you talking about Homer being 10 years younger than Smithers????????? Homer was 12 and Smithers was a baby...making Homer O-L-D-E-R..... by approximately 11 or 12 years. It's toally conceivable too, if it's prematurely grey heir on Smithers


I meant older...sorry.

[Doaho]

Originally posted by Smilin'JoeFission
My opinion- Waylon Smithers Sr. probably died a few years before Homer found the corpse. That would make Smithers Jr.'s age more consitent.

Good point but impossible for few years...since a dead body would decompose or eaten by fish.

[Dano]

I think everyone pretty much summed up the quality of this episode. I've given up on the new episodes. With the older episodes on 4-5 times per day, there's no way I can sit through the lame jokes of the newer Simpsons with the billiance of the older seasons still fresh in my mind.

Not to sound like a nut, but didn't Homer meet Lenny and Carl for the first time in the Nuclear Power Plant when Homer first started? I am sure I remember an episode where Lenny and Carl introduce themselves to Homer.

[BangBangBart]

I gave it a 4/5. I really liked this episode. I loved marge's crush on chad sexington. I liked seeing homer and his friends as kids, just wish they would have showed more of that. It had several funny moments and i plan to watch it again. I've only seen it twice so far. There's so much more you notice if you watch the show a few times.

[StrideR]

Originally posted by BangBangBart
I gave it a 4/5. I really liked this episode. I loved marge's crush on chad sexington. I liked seeing homer and his friends as kids, just wish they would have showed more of that. It had several funny moments and i plan to watch it again. I've only seen it twice so far. There's so much more you notice if you watch the show a few times.

As I said before (after Jake mentioned it), we shouldn't have to watch and rewatch an episode before we like it. I hardly do that at all, and only with episodes I liked the first time. I think the max amount of times I've seen an episode is about 5 times over the past 3 years. Most of the humor and jokes stuck the first time I saw them though. The only time I look forward to rewatching an episode is when the details have become dormant in the back of my mind, and I've forgotten most of the jokes. But then, I would have had to have liked it before to want to see it again.

[BurningLeprechaun]

stride, sounds like you only have negative things to say about the simpsons. Why bother wasting your time here?

[BangBangBart]

I always watch episodes a few times to catch things i miss. With two kids running/yelling/screaming around me, i pretty much have to. I don't mind though because i really love the simpsons still..

[Jake]

Originally posted by mrkatie
I don't see why there are such strong opinions about this episode one way or the other. It wasn't that good. It wasn't the worst by any means either. Jake, have you seen "Simpsons Safari" "Kill the Alligator & Run" "Saddlesore Gallactica" or "Bart the Mother." While I have heard people say they've disliked episodes before, it seems many of you just HATED this episode. And I just saw it as average. Wasted potential, but with a good plot and a few good jokes.

Simpsons Safari: D-
Kill the Alligator and Run: F- (worst ep aired)
Sad. Gal.: D+
Bart the Mother: B+ (it was decent, IMO, but not the best)

My review of Kill the Alligator and Run on the SImpsons NG went like this:

"The $1.6 million dollars to make this episode should've been given to charity, or put to some humanitarian aid."

Grade: F

Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
stride, sounds like you only have negative things to say about the simpsons. Why bother wasting your time here?

Because watching the show going from smartass to dumbass is very saddening.

Jake

[Boiker]

speaking on continuity errors.

homer graduated in 1974 and got a job at the "nuclear power plant that will be opening soon."

has it been mentioned before? did homer know lenny and carl all his life?

moe was one of the little rascals. that would make him much older than homer and lenny and carl. even if he really never looks THAT much older.

At this point in his life, burns was into Germ warfare research.

aside from the ranting.... this episode was pretty good, at least once i allowed myself to swallow the continuity errors. btw, did anyone get a good laugh out of homer talking about his past memory of jumping springfield gorge like i did? i quickly thought... "you've got to be kidding me... another clip show?"

Boik

[Cletus Del Roy]

I am disappointed with you all as Simpson Fans....once again, I loved the episode! Just keep an open mind. Stop thinking like the critic, and think like a fan. I personally found it great, and I love it whenenver new facts are added to the Simpsons' past.

Oh, and by the way, for all you Blunder Years Haters, how many 'worst episodes ever' are there? :)

[Cole]

Originally posted by CletusTheYokel
Oh, and by the way, for all you Blunder Years Haters, how many 'worst episodes ever' are there? :)

lol. I was about to ask the same thing. "The Blunder Years" was by no means great, but it was still a good Simpsons episode and it was still better than most other programs on television.

[Jamie]

Theory on Smither's Age....

Perhaps, when Homer (or the Moe Syslak Experience featuring Homer) were 12, the plant reopened,( only Lenny thinks it just opened) and reopened again when Homer was in high school. When the plant really opened (sometime in the 50s, as this is presumably when Smithers was born), this is when the whole Smithers Sr. Thing occured, and the corpse has been sitting in the pipe from this point to the year when Homer is 12.

Disagrements? (and they'll probably be hundreds).

[Jessica Lovejoy]

Some of you guys should consider becoming professional critics :) But hey, I can see where you're all coming from even though I was one of the people who actually enjoyed The Blunder Years AND even though I'm a person who actually LIKED most of the episodes from seasons 10 and 12 (okay, I'm finally admiting it, but let's never speak of these revelations again *hiss*). I can't stand to see Homer acting retarded all of the time ("LOOKATME!!! I'M A FAMOUS HISTORIAN!!!" - what the hell was THAT?!) and I especially can't stand the lack of sensible plots, non-continuity and just all-around stupidity from all the characters (Chief Wiggum wanting to win guitar lessons? Juh?)

If some major changes aren't made soon then I don't think the show will last much longer :-(

[Bluesman]

Yeah Lovejoy, I totally agree with you. Homer acting retarded is irritating. Homer is an idiot by character, and most of the time its funny, but lately, the way he's just been a complete retard, needs to change. And hey, I'm a Simpsons fanatic. It just sucks to see the show heading down the tubes. Maybe the people who can't imagine why we all hate the new stuff haven't watched the show for as long. I wasn't ready for this fresh stupidity. I still want to watch Homer being a smartass like he used to be. I can't remember who said it but they gave the best point on why the latest episodes are a dissapiontment.

"With the old episodes on 4-5 times per day, I can't sit there and laugh at the lame jokes with the old brilliance still fresh in my mind."

It went something like that, and whoever said it deserves credit.

[Bluesman]

Originally posted by Jamie
Theory on Smither's Age....

Perhaps, when Homer (or the Moe Syslak Experience featuring Homer) were 12, the plant reopened,( only Lenny thinks it just opened) and reopened again when Homer was in high school. When the plant really opened (sometime in the 50s, as this is presumably when Smithers was born), this is when the whole Smithers Sr. Thing occured, and the corpse has been sitting in the pipe from this point to the year when Homer is 12.

Disagrements? (and they'll probably be hundreds).

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one? I don't mean to slam your theory, but here's a simple explanation: Smither's age inconsistency (along with the millions of others in this episode) came from Scully (and the other writers) having their heads WAY up their asses.

Disagreements?

[Tomacco]

I've learned over the Simpsons years not to question any past history relatng to characters' age or childhood, because continuity means nothing in The Simpsons. I thought everyone was use to that by now.

[unexplained bacon]

WRITERS HEADS UP THEIR ASSES NOPE NO DISAGREEMENT FROM ME SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT THIS TIME ANYHOW

[unexplained bacon]

I AM USED TO THE NO CONTINUITY RULE BUT THIS WAS JUST A BAD EPISODE IM A HISTORICAL FIGURE WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT AND PS HOMER STILL RULESS NO MATTER WHAT

[barneybeergumble]

Why the hell are you writing in capitals? you freak

[Rowdy]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Did anyone notice how freakin' RE-USED that Frink hypnotism joke was!?! It was taken directly from "Grampa vs Sexual Inadequacy"!


Well, not really. There was a big difference as it wasn't funny this time around.....

This episode was saved by the plot. There was about three good jokes, two of which came from the Burns scene and the other from the part where Bart rolls out a paper towel for Burly. Man, this episode was so damn predictable. Who honestly didn't think Burns was the one who put the body down the pipe or that Barney would be dressed up as Burly? Still, the story was interesting enough. 3/5



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Season 13 vs. Season 12

The fourth episodes are not included as I missed (Yes, I am now once again a fan who hasn't seen them all) last week's. The points are the number of points out of five that each episode scored from me and are compiled together.

Season 12 (Episodes 1-3, 5): 12 Points
Season 13 (Episodes 1-3, 5): 12 Points

[radiationdude7]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Why the hell are you writing in capitals? you freak


maybe he's trying to give the impression that he is yelling. :rolleyes

[BangBangBart]

Blasted caps..

[thecapecoddah]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Why the hell are you writing in capitals? you freak

Heh, there's something wrong when gumble makes me laugh.

[milpool]

I am not going to apply any numerical rating on the episode, but give it 3 thumbs up. I enjoyed it. A refreshing episode after a few rotten apples.

[Jake]

Originally posted by CletusTheYokel
I am disappointed with you all as Simpson Fans....once again, I loved the episode! Just keep an open mind. Stop thinking like the critic, and think like a fan. I personally found it great, and I love it whenenver new facts are added to the Simpsons' past.

"Fan" is short for fanatical. By that very nature, and the fact you're posting to this board, fans, including YOU, are critics.

Oh, and by the way, for all you Blunder Years Haters, how many 'worst episodes ever' are there? :)

I never say "worst episode ever" since the show hasn't ended yet.

Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I've learned over the Simpsons years not to question any past history relatng to characters' age or childhood, because continuity means nothing in The Simpsons. I thought everyone was use to that by now.

I agree. The only continuity is the "Bob" episodes, and even that's a bit of a stretch.

Jake

[StrideR]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
stride, sounds like you only have negative things to say about the simpsons. Why bother wasting your time here?

Maybe you should read more than 2 of my posts before deciding what my outlook is. I don't hate ALL the new episodes of the Simpsons. However, I've not been too fond of 98% of the episodes produced by Scully, and I'm glad he's gone.

[StrideR]

Originally posted by CletusTheYokel
I am disappointed with you all as Simpson Fans....once again, I loved the episode! Just keep an open mind. Stop thinking like the critic, and think like a fan. I personally found it great, and I love it whenenver new facts are added to the Simpsons' past.

Oh, and by the way, for all you Blunder Years Haters, how many 'worst episodes ever' are there? :)

We are thinking like fans...disappointed fans. Fans that think and can tell when their favorite show is getting sicker and sicker (not in the good sense of the word) every week.

[BurningLeprechaun]

Stride,
i just want to point out that i read many of your posts...way more than two. i agree the shows are not as good as they have been lately, but i don't think it's all that horrible. I don't think it's all scully though.
I mean 12 years is pretty damn long. someday it will happen when the simpsons goes off the air..i hope it's not soon.

[StrideR]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
Stride,
i just want to point out that i read many of your posts...way more than two. i agree the shows are not as good as they have been lately, but i don't think it's all that horrible. I don't think it's all scully though.
I mean 12 years is pretty damn long. someday it will happen when the simpsons goes off the air..i hope it's not soon.

List 10 episodes you thought were great (or at least could be compared with older episodes) from last season.

[BurningLeprechaun]

First of all, I said that they haven't been "that horrible", never did i say they've been all great, and I totally agree that older ones were much better.
But since you asked here are the ones that i really enjoyed in season 11 and 12.
12:
HOMR--the brain/crayon...i think that was my favorite
NEW KID ON THE BLECCH
GREAT MONEY CAPER
TREE HOUSE OF HORROR
TALE OF 2 SPRINGFIELDS...had some good jokes and bad
TRILOGY OF ERROR (because i saw Run,Lola Run twice and appreciated the parody)
CHILDREN OF A LESSER CLOD
11:
BART"S LITTLE HELPER (focusin)
GUESS WHO"S COMING TO CRITICIZE DINNER
E-I-E-I-D'oh (Tomacco)
MISSIONARY: IMPOSSIBLE
BEHIND THE LAUGHTER
...I realize i really liked most from season 11...so i'll stop this here...in the interest of lenghth, which is already too long.

[Tirefire]

That list really makes a good case for the best of the later episodes. I think though if you take New Kids off and replace it with Simpsons Tall Tales then its not all that bad a list. :)

[Jake]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
Stride,
i just want to point out that i read many of your posts...way more than two. i agree the shows are not as good as they have been lately, but i don't think it's all that horrible. I don't think it's all scully though.
I mean 12 years is pretty damn long. someday it will happen when the simpsons goes off the air..i hope it's not soon.

Gee...I've been working at my job for 12 years so I guess I can start slacking off and still expect full credit.

[BurningLeprechaun]

Because tv usually reflects real life. 12 years is a long time for TV, not a job

[StrideR]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
Because tv usually reflects real life. 12 years is a long time for TV, not a job

We're pissed because, for over 8 years, they maintained a high standard, then in less than 4, they became a joke. Age is not an excuse for that rate of depreciation.

[Jake]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
Because tv usually reflects real life. 12 years is a long time for TV, not a job

Despite what emotional connotations you put on the progam, it still a job for a lot of people. While it may have 'life', it still is a collective JOB. Besides, look at how long Saturday Night Live has been on the air.

Personally, I'd like to meet the marketing folk who told Scully to aim low--aim at a lower-aged audience to market talking Simpsons figures and silly, cheap slapstick humor to. I'd tie them to a chair and make them watch She's the Sheriff for hours on end.

Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by stride_83


We're pissed because, for over 8 years, they maintained a high standard, then in less than 4, they became a joke. Age is not an excuse for that rate of depreciation.

HUH!??! U R NOT A TROO FAN!!! LET ME SEE U DO BETTUR!!! HA!!! I BET U KANT SO SHUT UP YOU WHINNER!!!!!!!

Sorry, I wanted to be the first to point that out to you. :LOL:

Jake

[BurningLeprechaun]

well no matter what i say or who i agree with, people shoot me down (and if that was a jab at my spelling, jake, i didn't understand why you made it. ) I think it IS crap that marketing told scully to shoot for a lower target audience, and i'm in marketing.

[Voodoo Monkey]

Guys, 90% of posts to this thread are off-topic. We need a board dedicated exclusively to flames. It's worked elsewhere.

[Bluesman]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
well no matter what i say or who i agree with, people shoot me down (and if that was a jab at my spelling, jake, i didn't understand why you made it. ) I think it IS crap that marketing told scully to shoot for a lower target audience, and i'm in marketing.

Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch!!! :)
As for marketing, Scully was told to shoot lower because that's what's popular. We live in a very crass society, so marketing thought they would get a bigger audience by telling assho-I mean Scully to do that. If that is the case, the marketing department should all kill themselves and Scully should be shot for obeying them.

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Are they going to replace Scully? They better, or I can see the show going straight down the toilet...

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Smilin'JoeFission
Are they going to replace Scully? They better, or I can see the show going straight down the toilet... Mike Scully is gone. Al Jean is taking over I heard.

[Jake]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
well no matter what i say or who i agree with, people shoot me down (and if that was a jab at my spelling, jake, i didn't understand why you made it. )

No, it was one of the sterotyped responses that follow a post that derides the show's quality.

Jake

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by BurningLeprechaun
First of all, I said that they haven't been "that horrible", never did i say they've been all great, and I totally agree that older ones were much better.
But since you asked here are the ones that i really enjoyed in season 11 and 12.
12:
HOMR--the brain/crayon...i think that was my favorite
NEW KID ON THE BLECCH
GREAT MONEY CAPER
TREE HOUSE OF HORROR
TALE OF 2 SPRINGFIELDS...had some good jokes and bad
TRILOGY OF ERROR (because i saw Run,Lola Run twice and appreciated the parody)
CHILDREN OF A LESSER CLOD
11:
BART"S LITTLE HELPER (focusin)
GUESS WHO"S COMING TO CRITICIZE DINNER
E-I-E-I-D'oh (Tomacco)
MISSIONARY: IMPOSSIBLE
BEHIND THE LAUGHTER
...I realize i really liked most from season 11...so i'll stop this here...in the interest of lenghth, which is already too long.

"Trilogy of error?" Are you kidding me? One of my friends almost stopped watching the show because of that episode. Who cares if it was a parody? I saw 'Run Lola Run' too and I can still tell a crap episode from a good one.

[Mike Scully]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy


"Trilogy of error?" Are you kidding me? One of my friends almost stopped watching the show because of that episode. Who cares if it was a parody? I saw 'Run Lola Run' too and I can still tell a crap episode from a good one.

Take a look at the reviews for the episode on nohomers.net, or on alt.tv.simpsons. Almost EVERYONE loved that episode, and I thought it was a classic as well. And not just for the Run Lola Run parody. I'm afraid you and your friend are in a very very small minority.

[Tirefire]

Trilogy of Error is the $hit, its one of the best eps ever
and there's a large consensus that agrees.

I think this topic has strayed a little bit away from
what we thought of The Blunder Years.

[BurningLeprechaun]

hey I was asked to mention which shows I liked, not which ones other people liked. I said the reason i liked it was because i saw the movie, and often if you know what they're parodying, then it's funnier.
I guess I just have a different sense of humor than you richie. Excuse me for not being you.

[Phoney McRing Ring]

Ok, its one thing to critique new episodes because of how bad they are but when this idiot starts mouthing probably one of the most creative simpson episodes , trilogy of error, then we have a problem on our hands...




you say you know good from crap? Like hell you do. What do you want from simpsons? you want maggie to start talking do you want Lenny and Carl to not be used in the same sentence, do you want the Springfield police to not be corrupt?

Please man.....half you people should be thanking something that the greatest show on earth is still here with merchandise coming out of our asses and new videogames....if not, goto your lame titus or grounded for life, some other FOX goldmine shows where stuff awesome always happens. FOX needs to show more respect for Family guy and less for Undeclared....uh oh, HE'S GOT A BEER!!!!!!!!....THATS FREAKIN FUNNY!!!!!

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy


"Trilogy of error?" Are you kidding me? One of my friends almost stopped watching the show because of that episode. Who cares if it was a parody? I saw 'Run Lola Run' too and I can still tell a crap episode from a good one.

That episode IMO was the highlight of Season 12. It was probably one of the only eps that didn't repeat a previous one(something that's been bugging me lately).

New Kids on the Blecch- bart gets famous as in "Bart Gets Famous"

Simpsons Tall Tales- very similar to "Simpsons Bible Stories"

Day of the Jackanapes- pretty much all ther Sideshow Bob episodes rolled into one.

This is not to say Season 12 was terrible, Season 12 actually cashed in with enough laughs to balance its poor story quality.

Originally posted by barneybeergumble


Mike Scully is gone. Al Jean is taking over I heard.

Thank God.

[milpool]

hey, we're all still watching, aren't we? i think some of us are too critical...i agree that the targeted audience seems different now, and some of the humor seems too much like the cheap humor on other sit coms at times...however, there are still funny episodes and funny parts of episodes that overall are not good...i thought the last episode was pretty good...

[StrideR]

Originally posted by milpool
hey, we're all still watching, aren't we? i think some of us are too critical...i agree that the targeted audience seems different now, and some of the humor seems too much like the cheap humor on other sit coms at times...however, there are still funny episodes and funny parts of episodes that overall are not good...i thought the last episode was pretty good...

Of course we still watch it, though for different reasons. Before, we (or at least some of us) couldn't wait for it to come on because it was so funny. Now, we watch it in hopes that it will become funny again.

[milpool]

Whatever. Though the writing is often not what it was, the show is still funny, though I'll concede that it is all subjective. It is still funny, just not as funny as when in its peak. All shows go through that, though...

*laughing* You'd think the quality would dip after 5500 episodes but...*laughing*

[Bluesman]

Originally posted by Phoney McRing Ring
Ok, its one thing to critique new episodes because of how bad they are but when this idiot starts mouthing probably one of the most creative simpson episodes , trilogy of error, then we have a problem on our hands...

you say you know good from crap? Like hell you do. What do you want from simpsons? you want maggie to start talking do you want Lenny and Carl to not be used in the same sentence, do you want the Springfield police to not be corrupt?

Please man.....half you people should be thanking something that the greatest show on earth is still here with merchandise coming out of our asses and new videogames....if not, goto your lame titus or grounded for life, some other FOX goldmine shows where stuff awesome always happens. FOX needs to show more respect for Family guy and less for Undeclared....uh oh, HE'S GOT A BEER!!!!!!!!....THATS FREAKIN FUNNY!!!!!

All right, man, I've about had it up to my testicles with people slamming each other for their own opinions, and also the schmos who jump on people's backs saying they're not true fans because the newer stuff isn't as good. OH GOD NO, SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE ONE OF THE EPISODES!! HE SHOULD GO TO HELL!! HE'S NOT A TRUE FAN!! Do you like every song sung by your favorite band? Probably not. Most people who have their own taste in music don't (By that I mean they're not a stupid poser). Do you like every album? Probably not. Do you still think of yourself as a true fan? Of course you do! And it goes the same way with us and the Simpsons.

[Phoney McRing Ring]

Originally posted by Kevin Campbell


Do you like every song sung by your favorite band? Probably not. Most people who have their own taste in music don't (By that I mean they're not a stupid poser). Do you like every album? Probably not. Do you still think of yourself as a true fan? Of course you do! And it goes the same way with us and the Simpsons.


Actually, i do like every song released by my favorite bands...
Metallica, Iron Maiden, Nine inch nails, Ozzy, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Led Zeppelin, Megadeth and Dream Theater have never put out a song i didn't like. Sure some songs arent a hit on the first listen, but eventually you love the song because it is your favorite band......soooooo think of another example padre.

Oh and if anyone can find away to get Faith no More back together or get Alice in Chains to release another album, i'll pay them big bucks....maybe even a soul or a left nut or something.

[Jamie]

Is this the longest thread ever at No Homers? If not, then what was?

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Jamie
Is this the longest thread ever at No Homers? If not, then what was? Nope, the signature thread at New users board has 198 replies, this only has 179.

[Phoney McRing Ring]

Well lets make it the longest!!!!!!! ;)

[milpool]

Between Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, and Mike Patton's solo career stuff (Themes for Adult Voice, Otro Proanista or whatever it is called, etc.) I do not see Faith No More re-uniting. I love Mike Patton's stuff and have all Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, and solo stuff....

As for opinion-bashing...Some folks do that here, but so be it...

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by Phoney McRing Ring
Ok, its one thing to critique new episodes because of how bad they are but when this idiot starts mouthing probably one of the most creative simpson episodes , trilogy of error, then we have a problem on our hands...




you say you know good from crap? Like hell you do. What do you want from simpsons? you want maggie to start talking do you want Lenny and Carl to not be used in the same sentence, do you want the Springfield police to not be corrupt?

Please man.....half you people should be thanking something that the greatest show on earth is still here with merchandise coming out of our asses and new videogames....if not, goto your lame titus or grounded for life, some other FOX goldmine shows where stuff awesome always happens. FOX needs to show more respect for Family guy and less for Undeclared....uh oh, HE'S GOT A BEER!!!!!!!!....THATS FREAKIN FUNNY!!!!!

OK moron. How is a parody creative? No thats ok just go ahead and contradict yourself. Oh and keep giving props to Family Guy, the worst show on television that gives low-brow a new meaning. You people who support 'Trilogy' make me sick. You come on here and bash new-era episodes but then say 'Trilogy' was good. That episode was the prime example of the show's decline. Even the writers will tell that's one of their worst. Seriously, that episode was almost the breaking point. I want one of you to tell me what you thought was so great about this episode and I want it to be intelligent. I don't want to hear any of this "parody" crap because that doesn't mean much when the parody doesn't add humor. If you parody something without satire than it isn't funny. Why don't they just reinact the whole movie. That's a good parody. I'm sure you idiots would eat it up too and then you'd say it's creative.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy
Why don't they just reinact the whole movie. That's a good parody. I'm sure you idiots would eat it up too and then you'd say it's creative.

Probably because the way the story was laid out as three, repeated acts, was interesting. I haven't seen Run, Lola, Run, or as others have mentioned, "GO", and I thought Trilogy of Error was interesting nonetheless.

Jake

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by Jake


Probably because the way the story was laid out as three, repeated acts, was interesting. I haven't seen Run, Lola, Run, or as others have mentioned, "GO", and I thought Trilogy of Error was interesting nonetheless.

Jake

Yeah, it could have been interesting if it hasn't been done to death in movies like lola, go, momento, and every quentin tarantino movie. Oh and lets not forget '22 short films about springfield.'

[Mike Scully]

Originally posted by Richiewhiteboy


OK moron. How is a parody creative? No thats ok just go ahead and contradict yourself. Oh and keep giving props to Family Guy, the worst show on television that gives low-brow a new meaning. You people who support 'Trilogy' make me sick. You come on here and bash new-era episodes but then say 'Trilogy' was good. That episode was the prime example of the show's decline. Even the writers will tell that's one of their worst. Seriously, that episode was almost the breaking point. I want one of you to tell me what you thought was so great about this episode and I want it to be intelligent. I don't want to hear any of this "parody" crap because that doesn't mean much when the parody doesn't add humor. If you parody something without satire than it isn't funny. Why don't they just reinact the whole movie. That's a good parody. I'm sure you idiots would eat it up too and then you'd say it's creative.

http://www.nohomers.net/interactive/reviews/CABF14.shtml

[tim_duncan2000]

I didn't think this episode was that good. It definitely was not one of the worst ones ever, but I didn't think it was too funny. I thought that paper towel bit with Marge was kind of lame, and Homer's screaming got on my nerves. And I know that it's just a cartoon, but I didn't think Homer even knew Lenny, Carl, and Moe when he was younger. I know a lot of people thought the screaming was funny, but it didn't do anything for me. It was the first Season 13 ep that I have seen, and I thought I might give it a chance before dismissing it as another horrible new episode. I did not think it was horrible, since they looked like they were at least making an effort to be funny and clever, which is more than I can say for other season 11-12 eps that I have seen.

[Richiewhiteboy]

Originally posted by S. Reddy


http://www.nohomers.net/interactive/reviews/CABF14.shtml

Thanks for the link, but i've already seen that page and I know what all you poser simpson fans think already. You're the kind of people who like the backwards Seinfeld episode and the live ER. It's called a gimmick and writers use it to change things when they run out of ideas. People should have been grading this based on the jokes and not because they haven't seen anything like this on the simpsons before.

[Wiggle Puppy]

Best of Season!

[Kalbelgarion]

I've never, EVER said this about a "The Simpsons" episode before, but, in the many years of being a fan, "The Blunder Years" is the Worst Episode Ever.

A non-sensicle plot, continuaty errors up the wazoo, and almost everyone was out of character. The Simpsons would be better off if this episode never aired. :(

This recieves a 1/5, and a big ol' "F".

[tim_duncan2000]

Originally posted by Kalbelgarion
I've never, EVER said this about a "The Simpsons" episode before, but, in the many years of being a fan, "The Blunder Years" is the Worst Episode Ever.

A non-sensicle plot, continuaty errors up the wazoo, and almost everyone was out of character. The Simpsons would be better off if this episode never aired.
Yeah, I thought it was bad, but not the worst ever. I think one of the Season 11 eps would hold that title (at least for me anyway). I know it's just a cartoon, but I didn't think Homer even knew Lenny, Carl, and Moe then. I also agree with the out of character part. Marge and the paper towels was not very funny to me and she seemed the most out of character to me.

[ahhgoobras]

I LOOOOOOVED this episode just rewatched it and for some reason wanna watch it again and again and again and again 5/5

[Fox Executive]

Pretty good, remids me of the wonder years of The Simpsons, It had a classic feeling. A good 5/5

[ThatAsianGuy]

I really liked the beginning with the magician and Homer's responses to his roles. 5/5

[Green_Peaness]

Ouch, this forum used to be like imdb.

Anyway, 4/5

[TriforceBun]

That's one heck of a bump. Seven years might be the biggest gap between posts I've seen on a message board. Nevertheless, there's no problem with bumping up episode review threads, as they're continually relevant in this forum.

Also, it's very fascinating seeing posts from some of the members that are still here.

Anyway, The Blunder Years. Personally, I think it's alright, actually. The screaming is annoying and the corpse is one of the grislier scenes in the series, but I felt the latter two acts were rather compelling and interesting, some wackiness (draining the lake) aside.

The humor is more hit-or-miss, but I like the feel of this episode quite a bit and Scully could've finished with something much worse. B-

[Moe Nopoly]

a really good episode, i like the flashback scene with Homer, Carl, Moe, Lenny etc a lot.
Also the story is funny and entertaining, has also little bit of a mysterious moment for me.
My favorite scene however is when Homer can't stop screaming.

4/5