Rate & Review: "Large Marge" (DABF18)

[Cole]

Season 14's fourth episode, "Large Marge" airs tonight with alot of mixed emotions. Many have been dreading this episode for quite sometime, however, some early reviews have made many very optimistic. I, for one, am looking forward to this episode after reading the reviews of several who have already seen the episode. As usual, the thread and poll will open once the episode airs.

[Nasty_b]

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[kevin]

it was better than I thought it would be, C

[America: Fuck Yea!]

horrible

[HellBender]

This turned out to be a good episode. 4/5, best of the season so far

[Necromancer]

It was a good episode, not good, not great. I liked the Sketch-A-Etch couch gag, and the parody of the Don't Tread On Me jack as an anti-Krusty sign. 3/5

[pie]

I gave it a 4/5. Better then I thought it would be.

[NoOneFamous]

I had serious doubts for this episode, but you know what? It was actually pretty good. I thought it would be full of raunchy sex jokes, and Marge flashing herself looked god-awful, but instead they did everything tastefully. I missed act 1, but acts 2 and 3 were pretty good. I give it a 4/5, or a B.

[Tirefire]

That was definately better than the expectations of most people, but still somewhat average. I'd call it a 3.5, and lean to score it a 4 on the poll. I think for the episode as a whole, it is the best of the season so far, though there have been better scenes in a couple of others. I am definately happy to see the use of Stampy, since my all time favorite episode is Bart Gets An Elephant. In fact, I think the use of previous characters and concpets in this one was pretty cool.

[kevin]

season so far: THOH 13-B+
Strummer-C-
Third Grade-A
Large Marge-C

[Datoupee]

Can it be...? Me giving an episode 4/5 !!! You've seen it here first folks.

[lisa_the_greek]

That seriously sucked. I don't want wacky plots, but that wasn't this episode's many problem. Its main problem was that it was just not funny.

Why was it not funny?

Three words: Ian Maxtone-Graham.

I used to wonder why he was so widely dispised. Now I know.

1/5

(The only funny part, IMO, was "Bart, remember that time I was crying at recess? I think I'm ready to tell you why.")

[FlawlessFlanders]

Eh... worst of the season. Pretty low taste, but, it was quite comical in some parts. I'll be nice and give it a C.

[Stitchface]

GREAT EPISODE! How could you not love the appearence of Stamp?!
DD!!

[Rob G]

Liked it alot!

The first and third acts were strong. The second act was weak, but I was glad that they didn't harp TOO badly on the boob jokes (the song was unneeded).

Loved seeing Stampy again!

["Yes i Cannibus"]

it was O.K. but definetly the worst of the 4 eps this season, i did however like the fact that it had a story

but what is up with the animation so far this season it is so crappy, particularaly the background characters, and jimmy carter does not have red hair, what the hell was that

i hope the animation gets better

i give "large Marge" a 'C'

[Bubble Crum]

4/5
I loved the references to past episodes like El Barto/Homo, Cookie Kwan, Stampy, etc. The episode didn't glorify implants and everyone was in character. Great to see Lisa and Homer bonding again. My only complaints are some plot looseness, the three stooges parody and Majula acting so hatefull.

[Hans Barber]

id give it a 3. i didnt hink to begin with it was gonna be as bad as it was amde out to be. it was better, i was quite happy. the whole story lines are still off a bit though. they go from scene to scene a bit too quickly at times. but prob the best of this season..atleast this season is getting better with each episode. what i liked, aslo, was the sing a long. nice for the simpsons to have that again.

[Toxic Monkey]

Stampy, batman, krusty... things we havent seen in a while. i liked this ep, im giving it 4/5. Main reason: Milhouse. He was the best thing in this ep. "sweet valley high"... pure greatness. :LOL:

[Tomacco]

Far from a blunder, indeed. Overall, the episode felt very solid, and it didn't feel short and disjointed in the least. The best jokes were in the first act, I thought, from the reappearance of Cookie Kwan, to some good Milhouse lines. The second act had the least laughs, which was its biggest problem (I didn't laugh much at all really), but the story developped nicely. The third act was pretty fast-paced and entertaining, with another character return (Stampy, with his trademark people-eating), and some decent jokes. The infamous flash scene worked fine by me, because Marge will always do anything for her family's safety. The very last line I didn't really get (the fried chicken bit), and the Baha Men thing was slightly lame, but it referenced a earlier joke in the episode (which worked), so all's well that ends well. The main cons about the episode were a couple wacky/odd bits, like Marge's smile implant, and another Lenny and Carl possibly gay reference. The song was decent, but Bart capping off the scene trying to make a song didn't work, IMO.

Overall, a very solid unrushed episode, with a subplot that tied together with the main plot. Good stuff. 4/5

One thing, there were a bunch of things in commercials for the episode that didn't wind up in the ep itself, like Marge covering her implants with pots from Bart, and at the restaurant, there was something in the commercial that showed Hibbert looking right down into her shirt. Also, there was a line where Bart yells "Great mother of Bart!" in a commercial.

Not watching King of the Hill, since the "new" episode actually aired over a year ago on Global. Not such a great ep.

[Wavy Gravy]

Wow, that was great! I expected a 22-minute sex joke fest, but it was really handled pretty well - the amount of sex jokes was alarmingly low, actually. Great setup (loved the former presidents as the Three Stooges), and some pretty good sight gags, but the main plot wasn't as good as the subplot. We also saw a couple of returning characters, including Lindsey Naegle, who's been downplayed recently, Snowball II, Mr. Teeny (guess this is the episode where he goes back to the wild and not EABF19 like we thought), and Colonel Tex. Loved the past episode references - seeing Dr. Velimirovic and Stampy again was great. Noticed a lot of cut scenes, though. All in all, a very good episode. 4/5.

[Simpson Purist]

7.5/10

Pretty nice episode overall. Most of the jokes were in good taste.

Pros
-The Bart/Milhouse subplot is well done and a nice take on the Jackass phenomenon
-The musical number
-Etch-a-Sketch couch gag
-The return of Stampy the elephant as well as some good Maggie falling over gags
-The three presidential stooges
-The ending was pretty good and it had a nice classic punchline feeling to it
-The men of Iwo Jima being toppled over by Milhouse's stunt

Cons
-Guest starring the Baha Men? The song was funny but I can't believe they actually came in to sing it. These guys must be desperate
-I saw the climax coming (I predicted it on one of the many Large Marge threads)
-Just an observation, Marge didn't appear as shocked when she got the implants. I thought the act would end with her screaming her ass off (no pun intended).

A good episode and maybe better than last week's Bart vs. Lisa vs. the 3rd Grade. Here's hoping that Helter Shelter will be great :).

[Voodoo Monkey]

Not bad, but not that good.

Great jokes, great line from Milhouse, great sub-plot.

The rest sucked.

[BlindPsychic]

I thought that was probably one of the best episodes in quite some time
5/5 compared to everything so far.

["Yes i Cannibus"]

i liked the past episode references

Stuff between the floor boards
Stampy
El Barto
Cookie Kwan

[Mr. Plow]

4/5. This was much better than I thought it would be. I'll edit this post and give a full review of the episode after I re-watch it. It was great to see Stampy again, along with Cookie Kwan.

[Hans Barber]

another good thing...focused on characters that really make the show...the simpsons, krusty, milhouse, had a bit of school in it...homer still has not been at work...and homer was not an asshole in this episdoe. some actual funny parts, wished i taped this episode so i can watch it with out feeling i need to judge it.
what will happen to mr. teenie?

[Mafia]

can i get a screengrab from the three presidents?

Much better...

A little shoutout to Rob Schneider's SNL character who always says "You lika the soup. The soup is good, eh." The waiter who said "I lika to eata."

The Presidents were great. It would been great if Dubya drove by in a limo calling them losers. Sr. would say "Dubya." Dubya would look at his father and say "Da...." and scream like Homer would as the limo pulls away.

First Act: 3/5 (not much to offer me but it wasn't bad)
Second Act: 4/5 (some nice jokes)
Third Act: 4/5 (everything came together)

The episode felt complete. Hero saves the day...

Returning characters are Stampy, Lindsey Neagle, The West Side Real Estate Lady, Carter, Clinton, Bush, Surgery Man

Episode grade: 4/5


one of my favorite quotes

Bart: What, I don't get a song? Mom got one.
Homer: The way the economy is, you're lucky to get soup.

[Moose of Doom!]

Wow, that was odd.

The good included the return of stampy, maggie randomly falling down, the musical number, and the amount of celebrities in the ep (I still can't believe that was actually the Baha men).

The bad, the whole Milhouse spinning thing was really annoying.

And the ugly, well, that was the first time we've heard Helen Lovejoy speak in a long time and she sounded AWFUL. Kinda like Maude did right before she died. When they recorded Maggie Roswell's voice for THOH couldn't they've recorded Helen's line?

Other then that the show was good.

[Citizen Kang]

Pretty good, not great. 3/5

[kevin]

looks like most people thought it was surprisingly good.

[kevin]

Originally posted by Nasty_b
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the three presidents would be excellent, specifficly, the one with the saw.

[Stina]

4/5 ^_^

[Urts]

Ughhhh...I really didn't like this one. There was little to no humor, and most of the scenes felt strangely unconnected and random. It was so bizarre at times that I felt like I was watching a season 12 episode. Still, it wasn't immature like I thought it would be. It really managed to barely be crude at all, but I really think it was just plain stupid. The side-plot could have been much better. It started off good, but soon degenerated into bizarre throw-away lines and unfunny gags.

This was not the worst episode I've ever seen, but I really felt it was too random and strangely done.

2(maybe 2.5)/5

[Handsome Pete]

This episode was certainly a lot better than I expected! Pretty good jokes (the jokes involving Marge's implants weren't as low-brow as I'd thought they'd be), nice use of bit characters and guest stars (as strange as his apperance was, it was nice to see Stampy again), and however strange, a song once again appeared in the show that wasn't half bad. Of course, there were some things wrong with it (no matter what their use was, I still hate the Baha Men), but the positives outweighed the negatives. I rate it somewhere between 3.5 to 4 out of 5, so it gets a 4 from me.

I still can't help but laugh at the three former presidents acting like the Three Stooges for some reason...

[Tomacco]

I actually thought tonight's episode felt like it belonged in season 9. It just had a sort of season 9 feeling. Hard to explain.

[Andy]

Wow, that was surprising. They didn't stoop to the lowest common denominator like I thought they would. Great to see Stampy and Cookie Kwan come back, and although the two plots started shaky, they came together well in the end. And the flash scene didn't seem so bad because it wasn't really that salacious. So it really wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. Pretty good, actually, even though the premise still frightens me.

[YesMan]

I had such low expectations for this episode, but truely, it wasn't half bad.

Marge was actually in character for the most part. The subplot seemed rushed, but it wasn't too bad.

One thing I noticed, the yellow skin colour seemed a bit of a "lighter" shade then normal (which is a good thing). Maybe it was just my tv.

Either way, I give it a 3/5.

[Hans Barber]

agreed with moose of doom. too unrelistic with the playset(i forget the name of the playground thing) comming off and spinning everywhere...hopefully the simpsons will now just take out all the crap, and finally bring the show back to its olden days. its not looking as bleak as i thought it would...hope to see good out comes on next weeks episode. but, the reality show thing is getting a bit out of hand, hopefully theyll pull it off.

[Blinky]

Not bad. Not Great.

Jokes i laughed at:

-El Homo
-Maggie knocking her self over
-"Did i come out the front end?.. i hope so because i already showered once today"
-"Oh we'll be doing a lot more than groping honey... lets go get fried chicken"

I was glad that it wasnt too insane... and yet again homer wasnt the root of all of the jokes.

3/5

[Tomacco]

All in all, most of us will agree that for such a risky plot, they handled almost everything very well, from character reactions, to the ending, to the style of jokes connected to it. The episode's problems lay in other places from the implants, like too few effective jokes maybe, but I think most people's original concerns were put to rest. Anyone agree? Just checkin to see what the overall feeling is.

[thecapecoddah]

Not bad, not bad at all. I was also expecting more sexual jokes - good to see that a lot of them didn't pop up. Loved the subplot with Krusty and how it eventually tied into the main plot unlike other episodes. Great to see Stampy, and I really enjoyed the Batman & Robin scene and its nonsensical ending. I don't care for these lame song & dance numbers anymore, though.

"El Homo"... heheheh.

4/5

[Mafia]

"Let our opinion rest on this"~ Sea Captain


Homer wasn't really that dumb is this episode. He even took the economy into play.

[Hans Barber]

agreed tomac

[TheRabidmoose]

Finally a good three-act Simpsons. Though a little short on some gags, it was done really good and wasn't overtly loaded with sex jokes like I feared.

Pros:
Fat Tony and his Cement Shoes! :-D Hahahah! That was great.
Milhouse was funny and was put to good use.
Principal Chalmers and the return of his old antics.
El Homo, to me this was a funny reference to el Barto. Being Homer, he was a bit ignorant to the fact of what it was alluring too.

Cons:
Cookie, I didn't like her and I still don't.
Homer and uhh the birth of Bart. Horrible joke.

all in all a good rounded episode, but a little short here and there on the gags. Middle act was probably the weakest and the beginning and ending were great.

4/5!

[kevin]

Originally posted by Tomacco
All in all, most of us will agree that for such a risky plot, they handled almost everything very well, from character reactions, to the ending, to the style of jokes connected to it. The episode's problems lay in other places from the implants, like too few effective jokes maybe, but I think most people's original concerns were put to rest. Anyone agree? Just checkin to see what the overall feeling is.

the main problem was that the jokes fell flat.

[FishBulb]

I enjoyed it. The puking on the flag was really funny. So was Stampy.

[Firewalker]

Well, I must admit, I am surprised as the rest of you.
Not a terrific episode, but it went well.
Loved the Three Stooges gag, the El Homo, and the breast jokes were not as vulgar as I thought they'd be.

4/5.

[Gagnonsux]

3.5/5. I liked the main plot and agree that they handled the breast implants with tact. THe subplot was pretty lame (as usual these days, and there was no real reason to use Ward and Adam West (or the Baha Men either). Also, the story was nice, but I didn't get many good laughs. In my opinion they still haven't shown anything to match season 13 so far this season.
BY the way, I enjoyed King of the Hill way more than Simpsons again this week.

[Tomacco]

Heh, the KOTH subplot was much better than the annoying Peggy one. I disliked that episode when I saw it last year, and I sorta did again this year. WHy did Peggy have to be so damn mean-spirited to her own family? So wrong.

[|RABiD|]

Great episode! I knew it wasn't going to be as bad as all of you were thinking it would be. Don't you guys get it? Mike Scully is gone! Jean is in, which means he can handle and execute a wacky storyline! Funny and ended great! Batman and Robin rulez! I'd give it an 8.6/10 or 4/5.

[Nasty_b]

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[Jake]

Originally posted by |RABiD|
Great episode! I knew it wasn't going to be as bad as all of you were thinking it would be.

I still didn't watch it, but I ended up having to hear that god-awful Baha Men song at the end. http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/blackeye/double0smile.gif

Jake

[Moeborg]

as i said in a now closed threat, i liked it, found it funny. and i asked around since the posting in that threat, and my sources say Ralph said "Hi Milhouse"

[Moleman...Hans]

Good one for what looked to be a bad one. 4/5 One of my favorite jokes was the part with Agnus talking to Skinner and saying "It's As cold as my love for you."

[Tomacco]

OH god, I can only imagine what people who saw the end credits without seeing the first act would think of the episode! Jake, as grim as it seems, the song had some point to it.

[Moleman...Hans]

Originally posted by Tomacco
OH god, I can only imagine what people who saw the end credits without seeing the first act would think of the episode! Jake, as grim as it seems, the song had some point to it.

God, I can't imagine.

[lisa_the_greek]

Originally posted by Tomacco
All in all, most of us will agree that for such a risky plot, they handled almost everything very well, from character reactions, to the ending, to the style of jokes connected to it. The episode's problems lay in other places from the implants, like too few effective jokes maybe, but I think most people's original concerns were put to rest. Anyone agree? Just checkin to see what the overall feeling is.

The episode was well-structured, less offensive than it could have been, had good characterizations, etc.

But it wasn't laugh out loud funny at all. There were WAY too many gags that didn't work for this to be anything higher than 3/5

[Simpson Purist]

Yeah, as much as I hate the Baha Men, they did a good job parodying themselves somewhat.

BTW nice Bond smiley Jake :).

[kevin]

Originally posted by Nasty_b
McStinkalot & Mafia: Framegrabs will be posted within 36 hours :P

thanks alot. its appreciated

[Bob Underdunk T]

B. Much better than expected.

SOMETHING YOU MAY HAVE MISSED: The picture of Krusty on Bart's sleeping bag has only two hairs on the top of his head, (like Homer did in "Homie the Clown") rather than his usual green tuft.

[Bubble Crum]

Originally posted by Jake


I still didn't watch it, but I ended up having to hear that god-awful Baha Men song at the end.
Jake

Jake it's hard to believe you don't trust something you love so much. You didn't watch it because you thought it would degrate the Simpsons, but it didn't. There's been FAR worse. Don't pre-judge anything! Your going to see the episode someday. Just give it up and take that stick up your ass out before it goes too far.

[Jimo Jones]

Two Boobs Up 5/5

[Maddog53]

It was actually pretty good I have to admit. I have already reviewed this episode on another site so instead of writing it all out again I will just give you link that takes you there here (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeReviewPage/showid-146/epid-110002/blockid-97961/)

I gave it a 3.73/5 in my review and gave it a 3 in this forum (I always round down).

BTW, did anyone else think that Chalmers' voice was a bit off?

Maddog.

[skittlebrau]

Wow. I was pleasently surprised. What was thought to be a horrible episode actually turned out great. Really great. "El Homo"= best joke ever. Kind hard to grade, but I suppose I'll give it a 4/5. Really good.

BTW, they left out alot of the footage from the promos. Most notably the way Bart finds out about the implants, and Marge repies "Just look at mommy's face".

[DotheBartman]

Guess I'll break down my review by acts:

Act one: pretty bad. The Batman thing was okay....I guess...but the rest was pretty laughless. The problem between Marge and Homer felt incredibly forced. Homer was incredibly out of character too: felt really jerkassy near the beginning.

Act two: I expected a train wreck, but it was more of rear ender. Jokes about Marge's rack felt forced and idiotic, too much wacky crap (the spinning joke? oh dear god), and the song was mostly laughless. I'm getting sick of references to Moe being a pervert...he's NOT that much of a pervert writers! Get with it! They seemed to touch a little on the inner beauty thing, but it was incredibly brief. Very obvious that all they're interested in is gags.

Act three: Better...sort of. The thing with Krusty had a few nice bits of satire, but the Marge stuff was terrible. Stampy's appearance felt forced: do they think we'll eat it up JUST because its a reference to a past episode? It has to be funny, guys. They seemed to want to move toward the inner beauty thing a little, but careened in the other direction and stayed there instead. Marge's flashing was suprisingly in context, but the fact that they resorted to it at all keeps it from being anything better then one of the worst Simpsons moments in history.

Overall: Bad. Not as bad as I expected, but still bad. Far fewer "Marge has big boobies...." jokes then I thought, but the fact that they did them at all is just pathetic. And any episode with our beloved Marge flashing people CAN'T be good.

Grade: D-

This season so far: D, D-, C+, D-

[Hans Barber]

i think another thing that made this episode good, is from my memory, they didnt have that gay jolly kiddy musci in the episode. it was more quiet, and the musci was put into that little musicl act.

[Bob Underdunk T]

I think the flashing bit was handled about as well as it could have been handled, considering it was Marge flashing. Marge was incredibly torn, but finally realized what she had to do. She first apologized to Lisa, and then did it only to save her family's life. Of course, I still would have preferred that it wasn't in there.

[irv]

i liked the recurring gag where there's something wierd in the floor panelling between marge/homer's bedroom and the family room.

[Stackhouse]

I barely chuckled at this one. I think, that all that was comical was the 'El Homo' joke and Milhouse, most of the time..

5.4/10
Not horrific, but bad none the less.

So Far:

THOH: 7.5/10
Strummer: 6.2/10
3rd Grade: 6.7/10
Marge: 5.4/10

[Jake]

Originally posted by Bubble Crum
Jake it's hard to believe you don't trust something you love so much. You didn't watch it because you thought it would degrate the Simpsons, but it didn't.

You're forgetting--your commentary is ALSO AN OPINION.

There's been FAR worse. Don't pre-judge anything! Your going to see the episode someday. Just give it up and take that stick up your ass out before it goes too far.

Considering this is the attitude of someone who's seen--and loved(!)--Large Marge, I'm even more happy not to have seen it.

[Tomacco]

I think the point is basically to not judge a book by its cover.

Personally, I have a hard time abandonning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years. But I actually do find it funny still. And even if they were to have a string of a few episodes that I didn't like, I wouldn't miss the next episode. But that's just me. People can do what they want.

[Ignignot]

Nobody has mentioned there opinions about the joke where mister Teeny was released into the wild, funny!

4/5

[I Am Lion-O]

This was actually pretty funny. The presidents, Stampy, and the veterans raise the score from C to B. So far I rate the season overall C+.

[Babys212]

DAMNIT, I missed it!!!!!!!

[Bubble Crum]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I think the point is basically to not judge a book by its cover.

Personally, I have a hard time abandonning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years. But I actually do find it funny still. And even if they were to have a string of a few episodes that I didn't like, I wouldn't miss the next episode. But that's just me. People can do what they want.

Great wording Tommacco. Exactly the point I wanted to send. You take the thin with the thick if you really care.

They handled Marge's breasts like Lisa handles a Malibu Stacy. This episode would offend an anti-sexuality person way less than Weekend at Burnsie's would offend someone anti-drug. Jake complains about jump the sharkers and is the biggest one here. Give it a chance!

I don't get Jake's comebacks. (I was just trying to be witty :LOL:) BTW, I wasn't trying to say too many eps. are far worse, almost all are a 4/5 or 5/5 in my book, exept for Homer the Moe and Monty Can't Buy Me Love. (There's a few 3/5 but I don't want to be picky.)

[Smilin'JoeFission]

First act: Good. Clinton, Bush and Carter parodying the Three Stooges is the funniest moment so far this season. The Batman episode was pulled off excellently, but the setting of the stage felled weak.

Second act: The subplot continued greatly with a fantastic scene at the school. The protestors' signs were funny, also. The snake saying "Don't Puke on Me" and somebody's sign with "Wrestling" and "Jackass" crossed out and written "Krusty" was a plus. But all the boob jokes fell flat.

Third act: Best of them all. The modeling part felt a little tacked on, and Marge showed little character taking all the harrassment(she handled the situation better in "Marge Gets a job"). But this was one of those rare episodes of recent years, when the subplot wraps up with the main one. Stampy returned, with his classic sticking people in his mouth gag, but I was able to breathe a sigh of relief when Marge got reduction. Then the terrible Baha Men song ran. Well at least Al Jean's money put some food on their table-at our listening expense.

Grade: C-

[Eddie]

Fairly good. Best of Season Fourteen so far. Some nice humor, good animation (except for the scene with Chalmers and Skinner), and Bart and Milhouse's subplot was fair. That song was great, too! Mr. Teeny's scene was hilarious, and I loved all the appearances/references to past episodes/characters (glad to hear Jan Hooks back as Manjula). The end scene was a little iffy, but I did like seeing Stampy again. I also appreciated that the plastic surgeon reappeared after his first appearance in "Pygmoelian." Nice touch!

3.5/5

[RichTexan14]

4/5

Pretty good... at least the episode had a plot and a sideplot rather than "The Simpsons are going to..." and do stuff as a family.

Some funny moments, but the story gave most of its stength dispite the bad storyline to act 2.

[homerjodyssey]

Funny episode! Great use of past characters. I also liked the lobsters in the Italian reastarant. Jimmy Carter, Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton as the 3 Stooges was very funny, as was "El Homo"! :LOL: All in all, great episode. Entertaining and tastefully done.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Personally, I have a hard time abandonning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years.

Sounds real sweet (and appropriately “true-fannish”), and frankly, you can only be speaking from ignorance here regarding my attitude. I don’t recall making a claim that I was "abandoning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years".

And yes, I AM judging Large Marge's 'book' by it's cover. Regardless of the guest stars and subplot, the story STILL revolves around Marge's accidental boob job and that plot is just wrong, and unwanted, IMO.

Thank you for taking the time to write.

--

Jake

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by Jake
Sounds real sweet (and appropriately “true-fannish”), and frankly, you can only be speaking from ignorance here regarding my attitude. I don’t recall making a claim that I was "abandoning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years".

And yes, I AM judging Large Marge's 'book' by it's cover. Regardless of the guest stars and subplot, the story STILL revolves around Marge's accidental boob job and that plot is just wrong, and unwanted, IMO.


No offense, just for discussion's sake, but who are you to say what plot is "just wrong and unwanted", when many fans enjoyed this episode? Most people here had no problem with the plot, but rather the jokes this time.

Anyone wanna help me out on this one? God help me, I don't have the strength or patience, things like this just happen every week.

[Evan Conover]

This was like good but not good at the same time. It made sense AND was funny but I thought it was kinda stupid since, once again, we see another sexual related episode. It coulda been worse though, thank God that Scully wasn't a part of this episode!

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Tomacco


No offense, just for discussion's sake, but who are you to say what plot is "just wrong and unwanted", when many fans enjoyed this episode? Most people here had no problem with the plot, but rather the jokes this time.

Anyone wanna help me out on this one? God help me, I don't have the strength or patience, things like this just happen every week.

I think his point is that HE doesn't want it. If you hadn't noticed, Jake's opinions don't always go with the norm here. And, to be honest, I think most people here liked it mainly because it wasn't AS bad as they thought it was. Everyone was decrying this episode as early as this morning for its plot. Then the plot turns out the exact same but with slightly fewer boob jokes then expected, and everyone loves it.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Bubble Crum
You take the thin with the thick if you really care.

Yeah, that's if you are stupid enough to fall into the thought pattern of: "It was a bad Simpsons episode, it's better than 102% of the rest of the shit on TV!!!!".

They handled Marge's breasts like Lisa handles a Malibu Stacy.

I highly doubt that. The Simpsons hasn't had a killer satire in years. BTW, satire isn't: "Oh my god!!! That episode had a microphone in it, just like the one Tom Brokaw uses! He must be calling his lawyers right now! That was soooo controversial!"

Let me ask you this: was there ANYTHING truly satirical? Or, was there a lot of ALLUSIONS and silly sight gags to past episodes you mistook for satire?

I don't get Jake's comebacks. (I was just trying to be witty :LOL:)

One thing you and the Simpsons have in common: You both try and fake funny (and sometimes make it), but you both can't fake wit.

Thanks for writing...

Jake

[Cole]

Originally posted by Number One
I was also expecting more sexual jokes - good to see that a lot of them didn't pop up.
* immature, sophomoric laugh *

Anyways, not bad -- not bad at all. Much better than I was expecting. The "El Homo" joke was definitely the funniest joke of the season. The spoof of the Jackass controversy with Bart and Millhouse imitating Krusty was great. Seeing old characters like Cookie Kwan and Stamp was another highlight. And, best of all, the part that had had me so nervous (Marge's flashing) ended up being in a situation in which it was for the good of her family. I thought the Baha Men song at the ending credits, which some have been complaining about, was great considering the similar bit in the first act. It was an enjoyable episode. I'd give it around a B-/C+ which I will round up to a 4/5 for the sake of this poll.

By the way, Skittlebrau had the idea for the creative titles (30A, 36D, 38DD etc.) for the rating system this week. I thought they were pretty clever, myself.

[Tomacco]

Well, that and the flash scene was handled better than people expected too. I went in expecting nothing one way or the other, and I was happy. But again, it's another opinion.
But you are right, that people liked it a bit more cuz it wasn't as bad as they anticipated.

And for the record, I typically don't say the line that "it's still better than 90% of the shit on TV", ALTHOUGH IT IS TRUE, but that's still not an excuse for it to be almost as bad. Luckily, I still find it funny, and yes, satirical. I didn't find tonight's episode to have had much satire, but if you wanted to, you could say that the Batman imitation was a satire of kids imitating Jackass. There is such a thing as subtle satire.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Jake



Let me ask you this: was there ANYTHING truly satirical? Or, was there a lot of ALLUSIONS and silly sight gags to past episodes you mistook for satire?

Jake

I'll answer this I guess.

The side plot with Krusty actually sort of did, suprisingly. It became sort of a "blame everything on media icon" sort of thing, and there were a few moments with good satire.

As for the main plot? Nah, just breast jokes.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Tomacco
No offense, just for discussion's sake, but who are you to say what plot is "just wrong and unwanted", when many fans enjoyed this episode?

I think they were more nervous laughs of relief, rather than laughs at how 'funny' it was.

[Tomacco]

Well, my laughs were genuine, I can tell you that.

[Max Power]

Well, I guess you can't just a book by its cover.
Great ep, with some great inside jokes.
4/5.

[Enter The Moleman]

This was a real meh, it had its redeeming moments(stampy, Krusty side plot, and etc. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007EPJ6/ref=segway_tn_left/104-7524654-5189511)), but there were far too many low brow breast jokes to make this ep. good.

2/5

[Cole]

Originally posted by Jake
I think they were more nervous laughs of relief, rather than laughs at how 'funny' it was.
Jake, I always respect your opinion but for crying out loud, stop telling Jonah what he thought of this episode. You didn't even watch it -- how the hell can you classify his laughs?

[Handsome Pete]

Originally posted by Jake
And yes, I AM judging Large Marge's 'book' by it's cover. Regardless of the guest stars and subplot, the story STILL revolves around Marge's accidental boob job and that plot is just wrong, and unwanted, IMO.

Yes, it does revolve around her implants, but personally, I thought that given the current state of the show, they handled it fairly well. There were still a couple of iffy jokes, but for the most part, it was a lot more intelligent than I thought it would be. It is a given that the show will never be as good as it once was, but for the most part, I genuinely enjoyed what was being shown to me.

And Jake, opinions can be wrong. That's not to say that my opinions are always right, as I am often wrong myself, but I'm just saying that you really shouldn't judge an episode like this. Times change, and so does this show. What may be considered an "unwanted" plot in the past can be acceptable now. At least I think so.

You can still be entitled to your own opinion, but you must also be considerate of the opinions of other people. It just seems to me you are not giving this episode a chance. I did, and I thought the results turned out rather well.

Just a few droppings from my brain...

[Kefka]

A lot better then I expected and the Song and Dance number wasn't half bad.

One question: What's with bringing back all these old characters? (ie Sen. Bailey, Stampy, Cookie Kwan, etc)

One thing that I didn't like that much was the three presidents acting like the three stooges, seemed kinda outta place.

[davidshirt]

What a great episode. The "El Homo" bit made me laugh out loud, and the rest of the show was the right balance of humor and trying to keep the storyline balanced.

The show made me laugh, and that's all it needed to do.

[•ºMikè~Stẕ]

Yeah, I thought it was good, the end was kinda stupid "Who let the jugs out" but it did make me laugh.

[jagrmeister]

Horrible episode and unfortunately it seems like this is the kind of quality we're going to get this year. Nothing funny at all. The initial scene with Homer and Lisa watching the outcome of the Truman-Dewey election pretty much set the stage for a humorless 30 minutes. I'm not surprised that this episode got high ratings since many people here use worthless criteria to judge quality such as the reappearance of past characters - Stampy and Cookie Kwan. I frankly couldn't care less about those attempts to pander to regular viewers. The show has to have good gags and it simply didn't have any.

[Enter The Moleman]

Originally posted by Kefka


One question: What's with bringing back all these old characters? (ie Sen. Bailey, Stampy, Cookie Kwan, etc)



also they brought back a classic gag that hasn't been used in a long time, the "in-between the floors gag". I'm not sure why they're all of a sudden using old characters, but I don't care I like seeing them again.

[Methane monkey man]

I loved the fact that there were two strong plots. That is something i havent noticed in a while. Homer was toned down that was good. But the omnipoint lady and the realistate woman hitting on homer was just a bit over the top, and so was president thing. And yes the el homo bit was great. Apperantly i re-created this thread, that is what happens you are feeling to lazy to read.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Handsome Pete
Yes, it does revolve around her implants, but personally, I thought that given the current state of the show, they handled it fairly well.

The 'current state of the show' allowed this plot to come into existance. "Large Marge" didn't just 'happen.'

Times change, and so does this show. What may be considered an "unwanted" plot in the past can be acceptable now. At least I think so.

Acceptable, meaning "we're running out of ideas" acceptable? :LOL:

--

Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by Cloud Cole

Jake, I always respect your opinion but for crying out loud, stop telling Jonah what he thought of this episode. You didn't even watch it -- how the hell can you classify his laughs?

Because just about everyone else, including Jonah, had "it wasn't as bad as I feared/thought" in their reviews.

[skittlebrau]

You spelled Nirvana wrong.

[chiefdan]

Did anyone else think Manjula's voice sounded different?

[Tomacco]

I just watched it again, and now I think it's even better! There were lots of lines that were genuinely hilarious, and others that are just plain funny. The episode spent a nice even time on both storylines, and the pace of the episode was great. The climax was fine, and everyone was in character in this episode. Also we saw a nice use of minor characters, but not in an overdone, tired way.

I really liked this episode, and nobody can change my mind. I found it to be original, fresh, funny, and well-paced. I suggest another watching to people who weren't entirely sure what they thought originally.

And Jake, I never wrote "it wasn't as bad as I thought" in any of my reviews. The only thing i wrote that even came close was "far from a blunder", which was a reference to everyone's concerns that it would be a blunder, not my own.

[Hapablap]

I liked it, it was much tamer than I thought it would be. The who left the milk out, yuck,yuck, was really funny to me for some reason.
I especially liked when Maggie started dancing on the couch, definitely didnt see that coming, how cute.

[Datoupee]

Tommacco... I am going for a second viewing tomorrow night when I get some free time. For once I thought the ep was only 4/5 instead of 5/5. The only influence in that decision was that Marge getting breast implants should have never been carried through when it was suggested as an idea for the show. I thought the same with last year's marijuana episode. Call me old fashioned I guess...but the Simpsons did a nice job on expressing their opinions on these subjects.

[mr. broom]

I thought this episode was subpar, but it was handled pretty cleverly. Like others have said, the sexual aspect wasn't stressed to the point of being obscene, though I thought the flashing scene wasn't nearly as funny as they wanted it to be. That's the only problem I had: it wasn't funny enough. The jokes just didn't do it for me. 2/5

Jake: you're usually insightful, but this time I don't get your attitude. You have zero room to comment on this episode because you didn't see it. I mean, really, nothing you say about the quality of the episode is justifiable. You can say, "It's an opinion," but that doesn't mean anything if not a relevant one. I might as well have said a week ago, "'Papa's Got A Brand New Badge' is a stupid episode because the name is a lame pun", even though I hadn't seen it until last night. Your opinion is based on assumptions, which is basically an opinion based on another opinion.

[thecapecoddah]

Originally posted by chiefdan721
Did anyone else think Manjula's voice sounded different?

Did Jan Hooks do the voice? Didn't catch the credits.

[Gagnonsux]

I do think "Large Marge" is far from terrible, but I think people are rating this episode higher than it deserves. I think we've come to expect episodes of middling quality from the Simpsons. I was hoping after season 13 the bar would be raised, but it seems it hasn't yet. Plot wise these episodes are so much better than 90% of the Scully years, but the jokes are below Scully quality in my opinion. I'm probably reading too much into the first 4 episodes of the year, but thats how I feel so far.

[Roarke]

Jan Hooks did voice Manjula.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Mr. Broom
Jake: you're usually insightful, but this time I don't get your attitude. You have zero room to comment on this episode because you didn't see it.

Let me clarify this one last time:

Large Marge's Plotline is a turd. And trying to decorate it with a few jokes here and there, just makes it a more polished turd.

A good example is diving off of a 50ft diving board into an empty swimming pool--No matter how fancy the diving routine, the whole routine would be pointless.

--

Jake

[mr. broom]

I really want to keep commenting about this, but like Jonah, I haven't the strength. Plus it'd just turn this review thread into a giant argument. You seem to think you can review an episode you haven't seen, as if it's possible to have an informed opinion without informing yourself. My opinion is that this is a very bad way to operate, but that's just my "opinion". Good night, kids.

[*Waylon Smithers*]

Great way of polling 5/5! I liked the couch gag, they must've been playing with one of 'em when they were thinking about it. I really liked that they had a new song. I also loved that they brought back Stamp for a special 'guest apperance'.

[Matty]

This episode DEFINETALY should've happened. For the hilarious, inspired jokes (Bush, Clinton and Carter and the Stooges, EL HOMO), the many nice reapearances (Cookie, classic floorjoke, Jan Hooks, Stampy), nice but little satire, the enjoyable plotline (they made the flashing scene tolerable and in character) and many more... People who say Marge's side of the ep was only just boobjokes probably just want it to be that, because it's more than that.

On another note, although I havent seen the show in 2 years, last night's King of the Hill was the worst piece of crap I've ever seen. That plot was totally out of place for the show, man did it suck!

[homer5000]

Before I start my review, I have to ask: Who's Cookie Kwan? I know, it sounds soooooooooooooooooooooo stupid to ask, but I forgot.

Now, on to my review...well, I'll be damned. It was GOOD! I loved the musical number (It gave me the same reaction that "Ode to Branson" did last season). It should have a name. They handled Marge's breast problem very well. I heard the entire plot on the radio accidently, and they said she flashes her breasts to everyone a lot and then the restruant scene came into play or something like that. Just to say: they were very wrong. It wasn't like that at all! I liked the return of Stampy and the Bart/Milhouse/Krusty plot was very good. To finish up, Helter Shelter looks really good...

[Roarke]

From the Episode Realty Bites, when Marge became a realtor.
She was number one on the west side, and scared Gil.

[Centaur]

Two stinkers in a row.

Heh, Jake used to be like an enemy of mine, but now I'm sort of in agreeance with him. Don't know if agreeance is a word.

I rarely laughed at all, and had to cringe and look away during the forced song and the unfunny Jackass merry-go-round bits. Didn't they reference Jackass before?

There's so many more funny shows out there now.

Friends has been rock solid this year and I have actually laughed out loud as opposed to that fake kind where you say that you did. And Buffy really owns all.

I think I'm gonna stop downloading Simps. It's really a pain and goes right into and out of the recycle bin.

[Jamie]

Plot: OK. Better than the "winning the boob job at a raffle" idea. 3/5

Premise:Marge gets a boob job. WORST PREMISE EVER. 0/5

Characterization: 3/5 Meh.

Layouts: 3/5. For some reason, I liked the animation of Maggie running into a door. Nice touch with the tilted angle during the "Batman" scene.

Voicework: 3/5 Ordinary. Nothing fancy.

Best Line: "Sweet Valley High!"

Best Scenes: Batman, Milhouse/Bart sub-plot

Worst Scene: THE MUSICAL SCENE

Overall: 3/5.

Afterthoughts:I'm very pleased that the scenes from last week's promo woeren't included in the actual episode.


Home Movies: 5/5 (BEST EPISODE EVER!)
Welcome To Eltingville: 5/5
Sealab 2021: 5/5
Aqua Teen Hunger Force: 4/5
The Brak Show: 4/5
Space Ghost: 5/5

[wee raging wilie]

3/5 It had its funny parts.. Like when they had krusty as an evil villain on batman.. Overal better than i thought it would..

[Towelie]

2/5 I thought this episode was alright. I kind of thought the musical interlude was a little played out tho. It seemed extremely forced. Overall, a forgettable episode.

[Simpson Purist]

Originally posted by Jake

Let me clarify this one last time:

Large Marge's Plotline is a turd. And trying to decorate it with a few jokes here and there, just makes it a more polished turd.

A good example is diving off of a 50ft diving board into an empty swimming pool--No matter how fancy the diving routine, the whole routine would be pointless.
Jake

Be mindful of your thoughts Jake they'll betray you. I do agree with you that the better-than-expeceted reviews were the result of low expectations. But as Tomacco said, you can't judge by a book by its cover nor can you judge a movie based on its trailer. Large Marge wasn't a turd, it was a decent episode with some well placed jokes and good-natured humor.

Here's a tip Jake, watch the episode with an open mind. Meaning, don't compare the episode to seasons 1-9, if so, it's almost certain it's going to be a disappointment. If you judge the episode based on its own merits, you may actually like it. Just a thought :).

[Ottoman]

damn this episode was great!

haha been quite a while since i laughed this hard at a simpsons episode.
only thing i hated was the damn musical number... I DID NOT GET THAT AT ALL

overall 4.5/5

[conor.]

4/5. Good Episode does anyone have Framegrabs for this one yet?

[peterjmatt]

eh, better than i expected doesn't mean it gets a 4/5. i expected total crap and 20 minutes of sex jokes. what i got was an episode that was so aware of its own lack of a right to exist that it barely touched the subjects it could have touched. what the hell was marge doing getting lipo in the first place. surreal plots only work when characters stay true to themselves in extreme circumstances and marge certainly didn't.
i still don't think an idea like this should have been greenlighted, but its a real issue and could have given it some substance. it had none. it started off strong...any number of issues could have arose from marge getting self conscious about her appearance. instead we get fluff. jokes need to be written into a plot, not the other way around. i just finished watching futurama's "jurassic bark" before this, and it reminded me of what simpsons used to be. plot and feeling with consistant and well written characters. where have those days gone
still, it had some funny bits and avoided becoming just another platform for boob jokes. too bad classic simpsons raised the bar just a little too high for that to mean more than a 2/5.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Simpson Purist
Here's a tip Jake, watch the episode with an open mind. Meaning, don't compare the episode to seasons 1-9, if so, it's almost certain it's going to be a disappointment.

No, I find the 'accidental' boob job premise bad for ANY show, no matter what season it is.

[joe h]

It doesn't seem like it now, but I think this one might be remembered for destroying the Simpsons. The reason, they think because the show is god, they can throw anything at us and we'll still think it is funny. The merging of two subplots was something Seinfeld use to do right before the show took a nose dive in mediocracy. I just hope the Simpson writers realize how bad of an idea this is.

As far as Stampy, he represents a time when the show was fun and entertaining, and the writers were able to pull anything off. The current writers have to earn more credit before ever again pulling off something more destructive than killing off a character. This is the poorest, most destructive idea they ever came up with.

[melZets]

3/5

Fortunately I always carry my carousel reversal spray

[Burnsie]

3/5
The Batman scene and the Three Stooges bit were great, but the boob-job plot was (I never thought I'd say this about the Simpsons) a cheap gimmick.

[Token]

There were minimal funny spots in this episode.

I did enjoy the Clinton cameos, as well as Stampy's return... so I'll be nice

32B (2)/5

[George Cauldron]

I HATED Stampy. Who says the abnormal plots started in Season ten?!

[Skyegazer]

It was pretty good there where some characters we hadn't seen in a long time like Cookie, and someone else (I forget who?). Milhouse had some good lines. and I liked the Batman scenes, since they made fun of how Batman always just happends to have the right kind of Bat repelant or whatever. That always bugged me as a kid.

I thought the scenes where Marge's bosoms where to big to open a door or lift Maggie, where kindof dumb.

[Lance_Murdock]

GREAT EPISODE!

I thought the Batman and Robin gag was hilarious...very reminiscent of the "Shark Repellant" used in the Batman and Robin movie!

The other thing I'm getting REALLY SICK OF is the "embarassed-collar-grabbing-gesture" they keep using. It sucks!!!

[Lard Lad Donuts]

It's with no doubt by far the best episode this season! It contained all the elements of a good episode such as an additional plotline between Bart and Milhouse, a song, appearances made by characters not seen in a while (Stampy, Mr. Teeny), and both plotlines formed together to make a excellent conclusion! I think this episode is the sign of many more great episodes to come! Loved it!

Manjula: Look at this flab! Look at it!!! :LOL:

[StrideR]

Ok... I saw it. Overall, it was a good bad episode. I wasn't necessarily satisfied, but I got a laugh here and there. I really tried to like the musical number, but it sounded like a poorly produced version of "Spring in Springfield," with cruddy lines.

As others have said, this episode shouldn't have made it past the idea stage. However, it was executed better than other episodes in recent history. Unfortunately, there's still the depth issue. The characters were bland and un-exciting, and the ending was just thrown together (although I giggled a bit when Homer also got caught in Stampy's mouth.) It was an uneven episode, but better than I'd expected. Keep it up Al Jean, and we may just have season 10 quality at the end of the season.

C

[Mike Scully]

Missed it. And I was actually looking forward to this episode!

Could someone get this episode on Kazaa soon?

[Mafia]

if Homer: Bad Man, same episode, nothing changed came out next week instead of its original broadcast, would people not watch it because it is about Homer sexually harassing a woman?

You can't expect the quality anymore, especially now when it could be GREAT or CRAP.

Marge gets boobs.
Homer sexually harasses the babysitter.

Both are along the line of "Shouldn't be in the show." The second one is on the better half of episodes.

how about...

Homer goes to space.

Doesn't seem like it should even be a episode based on the description.

or..

Lisa sees her future.

That seems OH SO far fetched to be an episode... especially one with a sequel.


Jake has his own opinion, though. We should respect it and not try to change his mind. You don't have to accept it, but you can tolerate it. Jake really believed in something, so he did it.

["Yes i Cannibus"]

any framegrabs yet?

[Tomacco]

This is episode can't and won't be remembered for "destroying the show". It's just not a jump the shark moment in the least. I would tolerate people saying "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily" is a shark moment more than this.

[Simpson Purist]

I didn't think it was a shark-jumping episode either.

IMO, the potential jump-the-shark episodes were

-Principal and the Pauper
-Kidney Trouble
-Alone Again Natura-Diddily
-Kill the Alligator and Run
-New Kids on the Blecch
-Simpson Safari

[Paranoid Android]

I rate an episode by how much it made me laugh. So in this case, it made me laugh more than the previous episodes of this season. I'll give it a 3/5.
And is it me, or was the song in this episode sound just like 2 other songs on the show.

[Dennis]

Good episode. It was curtainly the best episode of the season so far. 4/5. Lindsay Naegle's appearance was better than her other appearances but I dont understand why she didnt recognize Homer. Shes seen him so many times! Also it was great to see Stampy again!

[Bubble Crum]

Originally posted by Jake

I highly doubt that. The Simpsons hasn't had a killer satire in years. BTW, satire isn't: "Oh my god!!! That episode had a microphone in it, just like the one Tom Brokaw uses! He must be calling his lawyers right now! That was soooo controversial!"

Let me ask you this: was there ANYTHING truly satirical? Or, was there a lot of ALLUSIONS and silly sight gags to past episodes you mistook for satire?

Ironically for Jake, Marge actually said "Now that's good satire!" which I thought this episode had a good portion of, with our society's overpraise of a large chest and the Jackass/Wrestling take with Bart and Milhouse. Maybe it wasn't clearly labeled, but it was there.

[Tomacco]

Anyone notice the Before and After photos of Moe's facelift hanging on the wall in the plastic surgery office?
Also, anyone notice in the article about Krusty Saves the Day, the article describes what happened, but continues by saying afterwards Stampy rampaged through the show expo, crushing booths and vendors.

[Ottoman]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Anyone notice the Before and After photos of Moe's facelift hanging on the wall in the plastic surgery office?
Also, anyone notice in the article about Krusty Saves the Day, the article describes what happened, but continues by saying afterwards Stampy rampaged through the show expo, crushing booths and vendors.

yep i just noticed that haha!

[Jason]

Not as bad as i thought it would be, but still not great 3/5.

[Jamie]

Originally posted by Jake
You're forgetting--your commentary is ALSO AN OPINION.


Jake hopped aboard the hypocrisy train to say:
Sounds real sweet (and appropriately “true-fannish”), and frankly, you can only be speaking from ignorance here regarding my attitude.

Yeah, that's if you are stupid enough to fall into the thought pattern of: "It was a bad Simpsons episode, it's better than 102% of the rest of the shit on TV!!!!".

One thing you and the Simpsons have in common: You both try and fake funny (and sometimes make it), but you both can't fake wit.

Jake

ALL YOU SIMPSONS FANS ARE JUST IGNORANT MINDLESS SHEEP!!!!! MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!!11

[kevin]

Originally posted by Simpson Purist


Be mindful of your thoughts Jake they'll betray you. I do agree with you that the better-than-expeceted reviews were the result of low expectations. But as Tomacco said, you can't judge by a book by its cover nor can you judge a movie based on its trailer. Large Marge wasn't a turd, it was a decent episode with some well placed jokes and good-natured humor.

Here's a tip Jake, watch the episode with an open mind. Meaning, don't compare the episode to seasons 1-9, if so, it's almost certain it's going to be a disappointment. If you judge the episode based on its own merits, you may actually like it. Just a thought :).

you go Purist! Episodes always seem better when you dont anticipate it beforehand

[Handsome Pete]

For the record, I actually rated this episode higher because of the fact that it was actually better than most everything this season, not because it was better than I expected. The plot was decent and the jokes, despite not being as frequent, were better than they were in the last few episodes. It's a major improvement over the recent Treehouse of Horror (for example), at least to me.

And I did not notice that in the newspaper article that Stampy went on a rampage later on. That's true to his character, and makes his appearance even funnier.

[mayo]

Wow. That's all I can say.

5/5

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Mafia
if Homer: Bad Man, same episode, nothing changed came out next week instead of its original broadcast, would people not watch it because it is about Homer sexually harassing a woman?

You can't expect the quality anymore, especially now when it could be GREAT or CRAP.

Marge gets boobs.
Homer sexually harasses the babysitter.

Both are along the line of "Shouldn't be in the show." The second one is on the better half of episodes.

how about...

Homer goes to space.

Doesn't seem like it should even be a episode based on the description.

or..

Lisa sees her future.

That seems OH SO far fetched to be an episode... especially one with a sequel....


#1. Homer never actually harassed the babysitter. Just like with Frying Game, we already knew that Homer didn't commit the crime he was accused of.
#2. Marge-->tummytuck? How about givin' the old exercise a try before blowing the family's hard earned money away. I can see surgery being Edna Krabbapel's last resort to land a husband, but not Marge.
#3. I admit Deep Space Homer is far-fetched,and in hindsight, helped pave the road for the wild'n'crazy plots we see today. However, it was plausible. The Simpsons had already established a universe for itself where big blunders in high places were possible... blunders that could send Homer into space. I doubt any viewer was irked at the thought of Homer going to space, or irritated at how low the show would stoop for laughs.
#4. I don't see what's wrong with the premise of "Lisa's wedding."

[Simpson Purist]

Originally posted by stride_83

#2. Marge-->tummytuck? How about givin' the old exercise a try before blowing the family's hard earned money away.


Apparently they're saving that for "Strong Arms of the Ma"

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Simpson Purist


Apparently they're saving that for "Strong Arms of the Ma"

*shudders* Don't even remind me.

[Maddog53]

Originally posted by Dennis
Lindsay Naegle's appearance was better than her other appearances but I dont understand why she didnt recognize Homer. Shes seen him so many times!

I guess it is kind of like how Mr. Burns could never recognize Homer in earlier episodes.

BTW, I am going to ask again, did anyone notice something off about Chalmers' voice? It just sounded weird to me.

Maddog.

[Simpson Purist]

Originally posted by Maddog53

BTW, I am going to ask again, did anyone notice something off about Chalmers' voice? It just sounded weird to me.

Maddog.

It was a bit higher-pitched than usual, although it's not annoying as Skinner's voice in recent episodes, he just sounds wackier to me. Now before some of you come up and say "Harry Shearer is getting old", I think his voices have been perfect except Skinner and maybe Otto.

[Bubble Crum]

I think Lidsey Naegle just wanted to make a formal introduction (and might also not remember Homer because she is a busy woman.)

[Rekart]

I think it was extremely average for even new Simpsons episodes. I'd give it a C.

[kupomog]

I liked this episode a lot more than the other episodes of this season. This is excluding last week's because they station had technical difficulties and didn't play the episode. I really didn't think this episode would be good because of the entire plot (I hate plots that revolve around boobs in any show), but they made it work for them. This episode made me laugh quite a bit. My favorite parts were El Homo, Cookie Kwan returning, the president Stooges, Homer imitating Marge giving birth, Marge's boobs getting in the way of her daily activities, and Stampy returning. Very funny episode that deserves the high grades it gets.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Jamie

ALL YOU SIMPSONS FANS ARE JUST IGNORANT MINDLESS SHEEP!!!!! MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!!11

Mindless sheep are those who mistake a strong opinion for a projected fact. If you can't handle my opinions and they make you feel unconfortable, please ignore what I write so the rest of this place doesn't have to read your sophomoric “feedback”.

---

Jake

[Jake]

Originally posted by Bubble Crum


Ironically for Jake, Marge actually said "Now that's good satire!" which I thought this episode had a good portion of, with our society's overpraise of a large chest and the Jackass/Wrestling take with Bart and Milhouse. Maybe it wasn't clearly labeled, but it was there.

Okay, I found this regarding what the differences between satire and parody are:

"Satire takes allusion and goes a step further: it uses the allusion to attack some stupidity or inanity through literary techniques such as irony, derision, or wit. Satire is evident in Kodos' "I am Clin- Ton." This is satire because it makes fun of the tendency of science fiction movies to give their alien villains exotic names that all happen to have similar suffixes, like "-ton.

Parody, meanwhile, is different from satire. It begins with an allusion and then attacks something or someone by making fun of it. Parody is evident in Chief Wiggum's announcement, made in front of
Old Springfield Library, that the dogs have picked up the scent of books. Mistaking these for the stolen books, he then orders the battering ram, which crashes through the doors. This is a parody of
the police system. It makes fun of policy stupidity, and police use of excessive force.

The difference between satire and parody is that satire pokes its fun by using subtle literary techniques as mentioned above, while parody pokes its fun by explicitly poking fun.

--Joshua P. Fredman

---

So was Large Marge a real Satire or Parody?

Jake

[joe h]

Wasn't she commenting on what Krusty said? Anyways, what was stampy's purpose? I still don't get why he would just appear out of nowhere.

[Bubble Crum]

She was saying Radio Disney songs have good satire. Classic Marge...

[Nasty_b]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I think the point is basically to not judge a book by its cover.

Personally, I have a hard time abandonning something I grew up with, and loved for 13 years. But I actually do find it funny still. And even if they were to have a string of a few episodes that I didn't like, I wouldn't miss the next episode. But that's just me. People can do what they want.

You know what I find funny... how LOTS of people say that the simpsons episodes these days suck .. and these people have been saying that ever since season 9 or whatever. What gets me is that they still watch the show. If they dislike it THAT much, why do they watch the new eps? It REALLY pisses me off when people do it. Because they are contradicting themselves. Sunday night after the simpsons they hop on to their computer, badmouth the show, then next sunday do the same thing. I have been watching the show for as long as I can remember too, and I still find it funny. There ARE some bad episodes out there, but they arent THAT bad.

[Tomacco]

Originally posted by Jake
Okay, I found this regarding what the differences between satire and parody are:

"Satire takes allusion and goes a step further: it uses the allusion to attack some stupidity or inanity through literary techniques such as irony, derision, or wit. Satire is evident in Kodos' "I am Clin- Ton." This is satire because it makes fun of the tendency of science fiction movies to give their alien villains exotic names that all happen to have similar suffixes, like "-ton.

Parody, meanwhile, is different from satire. It begins with an allusion and then attacks something or someone by making fun of it. Parody is evident in Chief Wiggum's announcement, made in front of
Old Springfield Library, that the dogs have picked up the scent of books. Mistaking these for the stolen books, he then orders the battering ram, which crashes through the doors. This is a parody of
the police system. It makes fun of policy stupidity, and police use of excessive force.

The difference between satire and parody is that satire pokes its fun by using subtle literary techniques as mentioned above, while parody pokes its fun by explicitly poking fun.

--Joshua P. Fredman

---

So was Large Marge a real Satire or Parody?


"Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down in semantics. I think what Lisa meant to say is.."

"And so, Jake Lennington and the fans argued long into the night, and then, as day broke, the spirit of the season entered their hearts."

[Rekart]

I think that first of all, saying they suck is somewhat of a figure of speech. Lots of times we say that when we mean bad, just like "we hate....." instead of "we dislike...." And, second, I also think they mean in comparison to their favorite and most memorable episodes, which would make the new ones suck. I do agree that it's getting worse, but not that it's horrible. It's still funny enough to acquire new fans, and that should be enough for old fans to keep watching it.

[mr. broom]

Apparently overlooked question: Why does there have to be satire in a "Simpsons" episode?

[joe h]

This show is beyond its jump the shark moment, which happened halfway through season 9. And for some occurred during Who shot Mr Burns. I agree with both groups, season 6 through 9 1/2 is a different show compared to season 2 through 5.

2-5 is the best thing to ever happen to tv. 6-9 was more fun and entertaining than a work of art. 9.5 through 12 is a train wreck.

But I am just enjoying these last 3 seasons like one would enjoy their pet dog when you know it's time is up. The episodes are far from what it use to be, but I am still blind to its terribleness. But these first 3 episodes are once again bringing back feeling I had during season 12.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Tomacco


"Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down in semantics. I think what Lisa meant to say is.."

"And so, Jake Lennington and the fans argued long into the night, and then, as day broke, the spirit of the season entered their hearts."

There's probably more satire in this post than in the last few Simpsons episodes! :LOL:

[Cole]

Originally posted by Mr. Broom
Why does there have to be satire in a "Simpsons" episode?

[Bubble Crum]

I didn't say they did. I said they handled Marge's Bresets like Lisa handles a Malibu Stacy, (They were respectful,) but Jake thought I was talking of satire and rambled on and on and on...

[evil krusty doll]

loved the whole show and i was thinking of marge while i was humping my girl and her 40-DD :-)... man im sic :devil:

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Nasty_b


You know what I find funny... how LOTS of people say that the simpsons episodes these days suck .. and these people have been saying that ever since season 9 or whatever. What gets me is that they still watch the show. If they dislike it THAT much, why do they watch the new eps? It REALLY pisses me off when people do it. Because they are contradicting themselves. Sunday night after the simpsons they hop on to their computer, badmouth the show, then next sunday do the same thing. I have been watching the show for as long as I can remember too, and I still find it funny. There ARE some bad episodes out there, but they arent THAT bad.

Don't worry, if the show maintains it current quality for much longer, you'll have the complaints of one less fan to put up with.

[Kamikaze_chimp]

Wellity, wellity, wellity. Didn't expect much out of this ep and i didn't get much. One of my least favorite eps ever. The first act wasn't bad, but there were only a few good laughs throughout the ep in my opinion. The batman parody was pretty good, so credit for that. But most of the ep sucked, the plot was never good to begin with, but if its funny its still a good ep. This however wasn't very funny, too many dumb references to marges boobs(micacas, marumbas, consagas, etc.) The song at the ending credits took my score down a whole point. I give this ep a 3/10(ill vote for 2/5).

[tim_duncan2000]

Contrary to what others think about people like me, I don't watch the show just to talk about how much I hate it. I watch it because there is a remote chance I'll like it. Season 12 had many terrible episodes. However, I didn't think "Trilogy of Error" was bad. In fact, I thought it was one of the best episodes in a long time. I also did not think "Hungry, Hungry Homer" or "Worst Episode Ever" that bad at all. The only way I will know if it's good or not is by watching it. I can't avoid episodes based on what others have said. Humor is such a personal thing, and what's funny to one person might not be so funny to another person.

Getting back to the topic, I have not seen this episode, so I don't know if it's funny or not. And if I see it and I think it sucks, it won't be because I have a preconceived notion that all new episodes must be horrible. I will think it sucks if the jokes are stupid and for immature audiences, if the characterizations are bad, and if the plot sucks. I'm going to give it a chance.

[StrideR]

I officially crown Tim_Duncan2000 the Official New Episode Hater for the Nov '02 - Feb '03 period.

[Archonix]

Originally posted by evil krusty doll
loved the whole show and i was thinking of marge while i was humping my girl and her 40-DD :-)... man im sic :devil:

You are a sad, strange little man. ;-/

[Mendoza!!!!]

So many wonderful elements. Adam West as Batman, Stooges reference, and the Iwo Jima Vets. And it brought back so many things, the space between the floorboards, good Krusty material and had one of the greatest Milhouse lines ever. All that was missing was Charles Bronson. 3.7 out of 5

[N.O.G.G.I.N.]

That episode took a 20-karat diamond and made it gleam, like a big spaghetti dinner smothered in whip cream, it's like X-Men #3 in a mylar bag, a brand new muscle car and the wheels are mag, it makes me feel as young as the blood I get from sheep, it's like Jacqueline Bisset in my favorite film, The Deep, it's sexy and exotic like a hooker from Belize, or a patient with insurance, who's crawling with disease, it's a sundae underneath two great big cherries, but I gotta keep in mind it's only temporaries, but still I'd like to say that I am very, very glad to see it, and I decree it's the hottest thing to happen to my city since the fire that killed 11...dangerous criminals, and it's all mine

[kevin]

Originally posted by evil krusty doll
loved the whole show and i was thinking of marge while i was humping my girl and her 40-DD :-)... man im sic :devil:

oh man thats disgusting

[lousysmarchweather]

3/5 Better than I thought it would be, but it wasn't great. I loved the batman parody.

'there is one thing I don't keep in my belt, Patience for criminals like you"

[laundramat36]

2/5. Not too appealing to me. I also noticed a small plot inconsintansy. When they said that Krusty was a Batman villian on the OLD show, they contradicdicted themselves. IN an earlier epsisode, Krusty's television career was revealed that he was only on a show with a fake window and he couldn't get it to work, then it was atated that he didn't do television for a long while. Therefore, it was imposible for Krusty to be on the show. This might have been stated before me, but I don't have a lot of patience.

[HellBender]

Originally posted by laundramat36
2/5. Not too appealing to me. I also noticed a small plot inconsintansy. When they said that Krusty was a Batman villian on the OLD show, they contradicdicted themselves. IN an earlier epsisode, Krusty's television career was revealed that he was only on a show with a fake window and he couldn't get it to work, then it was atated that he didn't do television for a long while. Therefore, it was imposible for Krusty to be on the show. This might have been stated before me, but I don't have a lot of patience.


Congratulations for pointing out one of the 1000+ continuity errors in the show!
But seriously, continuity errors like that happen all the time, you eventually learn to live with them. :)

[skittlebrau]

Originally posted by laundramat36
I also noticed a small plot inconsintansy. When they said that Krusty was a Batman villian on the OLD show, they contradicdicted themselves. IN an earlier epsisode, Krusty's television career was revealed that he was only on a show with a fake window and he couldn't get it to work, then it was atated that he didn't do television for a long while. Therefore, it was imposible for Krusty to be on the show.
"Batman" was around before "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In", so it's not an inconsistency. Krusty could have very well been a guest villian on "Batman", then do "Laugh-In" a couple of years later.

[Channel Surfer]

Originally posted by Simpson Purist
I didn't think it was a shark-jumping episode either.

IMO, the potential jump-the-shark episodes were

-Principal and the Pauper
-Kidney Trouble
-Alone Again Natura-Diddily
-Kill the Alligator and Run
-New Kids on the Blecch
-Simpson Safari

I can think of a couple others that could be potential shark jumpers, depending on what kind of a person you are...

"Who Shot Mr. Burns"
"Lisa the Vegetarian"
"Monty Can't Buy Me Love"
"Saddlesore Galactica"
"Days of Wine and D'oh'ses"
"She of Little Faith"

Personally, I don't think it's jumped, but I refuse to actually vote until the series finally ends.

Back on topic, as far as "Large Marge" is concerned, it's about a 3/5. It's the kind of episode I'm perfectly content watching in syndication, but it's not an episode I'd use to lure in new "Simpsons" fans. Fun, but unmemorable.

And this needs to be repeated at least one more time.

Originally posted by Mr. Broom
Apparently overlooked question: Why does there have to be satire in a "Simpsons" episode?

[kupomog]

Originally posted by Nasty_b
If they dislike it THAT much, why do they watch the new eps?

Because they are hoping for the episodes to be better. Just because they dislike 3 seasons out of 13 doesn't mean they absolutely hate the show and should no longer watch it. They're still dedicated fans. They still like the entire show. They can still watch and pray that the newest episode is better than they others. Everything that is loved by people has some annoying drawback and flaw that people hate, but they will still love it if they're true fans.

[Max Power]

That was beautiful, Kupo.

[Helper Monkey]

Jake, you have earned my admiration for your stubborn refusal to budge on your opinion of the premise of Large Marge. It shows that your decision was at least well thought out, regardless of whether people here (myself included) think it is misguided. Usually I think you are just a grumpy old crank (Stride_83 also fits in this category), but at least you are a coherent voice for the contingent of fans who refuse to accept the new direction of the show. And since it sounds like Stride is about to give up on us, I for one hope you continue to chime in and keep the board grounded. You're much more interesting to read than "this week sucked again!"

As for the show, I disagreed with the feeling on this board before it was aired-- I actually thought the previews looked funny. I was not disappointed. This was easily the funniest episode of the season. No episode is a classic instantly. Some episodes get worse with time and some get much better. If you have been watching from the beginning (which I think you have), there must have been early episodes that you thought did not stand up at the time but have come to appreciate later. As long as you remain open to re-watching in syndication or on tape, you may find the same thing happens to some of the good episodes from the newer seasons.

Again, I applaud your conviction. If you never watch this week's episode, you will at least have made your stand. I sincerely hope that the writers who lurk on this board do not take it to heart and start looking for the end of a show which I still enjoy very much.

HM

[Tomacco]

I've now watched "Large Marge" about four times, and my general opinion on it is actually just getting better. It has a stand-out plot, a good subplot, a climax, an even distribution of quality throughout all three acts, and good characterization. "Solid" would be how I describe the episode overall.

I'm not the only one who noticed its general feeling either. A few people at school, who havn't enjoyed the past few seasons too much, have told me they found "Large Marge" not to be the funniest episode ever, but had more of a season 8-9 feeling to it.

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Helper Monkey
Usually I think you are just a grumpy old crank (Stride_83 also fits in this category), but at least you are a coherent voice for the contingent of fans who refuse to accept the new direction of the show.
HM

Wait, I'm confused... I'm I admired, or still seen as a grumpy old crank?

And since it sounds like Stride is about to give up on us...
I'll still pop in every once in a while, but I just won't be bothered with the new episodes.

[Helper Monkey]

Stride, you are definitely a crank. ;) But I will miss you if you leave.

HM

[StrideR]

Originally posted by Helper Monkey
Stride, you are definitely a crank. ;) But I will miss you if you leave.

HM

Thanks, that's nice to know.

[DotheBartman]

God, I still can't figure out how people can even say everyone was entirely in character. Marge's voice was still high pitched and annoying, she decided to go under the knife WAY too soon (usually she'd at least lounge around in her own self pity for a while), Homer was too stupid and jerkassy (the "bet" scene at the beginning was the most jerkassy Homer I've seen since "Blunder Years" or "Homer the Moe", Strummer Vacation be damned"). Not to mention there was some other flaws: some sick gay jokes with "El Homo" and that DISGUSTING joke with Milhouse, overall overwackiness (Milhouse spinning) and lack of any real character developement, pointless self and past references that, despite not being funny, apparently managed to bring in the good reviews simply because they were there....and, of course, you have Marge stripping. You can spice it up with any sort of context and "reason", but the fact is they did it for shock value and to wow the "Marge has big boooobs, yo!!!1!1!" crowd.

Frankly this was one of the worst yet.

[Simpson Purist]

Originally posted by kupomog

Because they are hoping for the episodes to be better. Just because they dislike 3 seasons out of 13 doesn't mean they absolutely hate the show and should no longer watch it. They're still dedicated fans. They still like the entire show. They can still watch and pray that the newest episode is better than they others. Everything that is loved by people has some annoying drawback and flaw that people hate, but they will still love it if they're true fans.

Is that ever so true. My love for OFF will never be tarnished by the Scully-era and even Scully had some great moments to provide.

[Mafia]

sorry to say it, but Homer was in character. If Homer has not been in character for the past 4 years, then Lisa has been out of character since season 1.

i don't recall the bet scene in the middle. It wasn't the Truman thing, was it? Homer acted pretty well for the rest of the episode. When they say "in character" they probably mean overall. Marge, although her voice may never go back to not annoying, was semi on character. Voice hardly counts for character though.

What the episode needed was some better jokes or some more serious moments. They can't have either, it seems.

I don't recall the word "breat" being used at all during the episode. They kept saying all these odd, and some made up named names for them. I believe "boobies" was said once, twice, or three times. I believe knockers was used a lot and so was some word that was apparently "the word of the day."

[Finch 182]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I'm not the only one who noticed its general feeling either. A few people at school, who havn't enjoyed the past few seasons too much, have told me they found "Large Marge" not to be the funniest episode ever, but had more of a season 8-9 feeling to it.

I know what you mean, even with the horrible premise, i really liked it. I for the first time felt like i was actually watching a season 7-9 episode. I can't really explain it, but its just this something that the last few seasons didn't have, and this ep did.

[YesMan]

No one has commented on the whole "Mugumbo" thing? What was that about? Made no sense to me.

[StrideR]

Originally posted by YesMan
No one has commented on the whole "Mugumbo" thing? What was that about? Made no sense to me.
That one was stupidly thrown in, even though "Mugumbo" is a perfectly Krusty-esque word.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Helper Monkey
If you never watch this week's episode, you will at least have made your stand. I sincerely hope that the writers who lurk on this board do not take it to heart and start looking for the end of a show which I still enjoy very much.

HM

Thanks for the comments, but I think the writers will look at two things in regarding the future of the show:

--In this corner: Jake's Opinions (and the rest of the internet's)

--And in the other corner: A huge pile of money.

Well, it looks like there'll be more CBG jokes in the near future...


--

Jake

[EgoJudicata]

Originally posted by evil krusty doll
loved the whole show and i was thinking of marge while i was humping my girl and her 40-DD

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~zoz/tweaked.gif

[Nasty_b]

Originally posted by evil krusty doll
loved the whole show and i was thinking of marge while i was humping my girl and her 40-DD :-)... man im sic :devil:

I have nothing to say but "Ugh".

[irv]

jake lennington is being a giant douchebag here in this thread. his opinion is wrong, and he is being stubborn. there's no two ways around it.

[Jake]

Originally posted by jesus plays his hits
jake lennington is being a giant douchebag here in this thread. his opinion is wrong, and he is being stubborn. there's no two ways around it.

GODDAMN!!!

[deviler]

I can't see how you can't love this episode. i found it hilarious, especially when Homer fell off the bed! Another funny part was when Skinners and his mother were eating the canned spaghetti. "Its as cold as my love for you!" The return of Stampy was cool too. You shouldn't base the humor on the shopw on how marally right it is anyway! I just like what makes me laugh. Oh well.

[Jake]

Originally posted by deviler
You shouldn't base the humor on the shopw on how marally right it is anyway! I just like what makes me laugh. Oh well.

Why do you try and drag morality into in? Large Marge is just a really stupid idea.

[Simpson Purist]

I think we need to stop looking at the past and start looking at the future. I'm not too optimistic about Helter Shelter, but hopefully it'll surprise like Large Marge.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Simpson Purist
I think we need to stop looking at the past and start looking at the future. I'm not too optimistic about Helter Shelter, but hopefully it'll surprise like Large Marge.

Episodes like "Strummer" don't really make too excited, but I'll watch anyway, but I think (hope) L.M. will be the last episode I'll distance myself from. If there's ever an episode based on Bart coming down with a horrid farting problem, then I know my Simpsons watching days are over.

Jake

[Wavy Gravy]

But you'd still draw them, right?

[Archonix]

Of course he would He has his spinoff to look at. :)

[or_smth]

I know this is something that is absolutely awful to say but it's very true so I will say it anyway. The reason that I still watch the Simpsons is to look at how crappy they've become. I almost think that I get some sick pleasure out of pointing out the flaws in an episode, especially the huge gaping ones. I don't believe it's just me, as my mom who doesn't like the Simpsons in the first place but understands why they are popular and 'good' to most people, said to me "Where were the writers on that one". Never the less, I know I will keep watching because I can't let go. It's not that I have hope for future episodes (personally -though I don't want to think so- I don't think that they will get much better), it's that I get the feeling that I should watch it. I think a lot of people on this board feel this way and I understand. It's people that tell them to fuck off that piss me off. The Simpsons, to me, has become one of those movies that you watch just to see how bad they are. I think some of you are trying to like it too much, you know, it is possible that this wasn't a great episode. I've seen too many 4/5s and 5/5s this season to believe this is an honest vote.

Regarding Jake: I respect that Jake said he wouldn't watch this one and he didn't. As long as he holds true to his promise I will continue to respect him because it's more than I could ever do. Still, I do think he's gone a little overboard in posting in this thread.

And Large Marge?
I won't really comment on much of the content because I didn't like it. The style was there though, and I was pleased with it...

Good:
Plot line followed a nice curve, made sense (mostly)
Music was light and not overpowering like recent episodes.
Music and sound effects weren't repeats for the most part (no <insert bad guy music here>)
The episode seemed contained. The settings were decently familiar and felt 'normal'
Secondary plot tieing into primary -- not necessary but a nice bonus(in fact if you look at it in retrospect, Bart's plot was actually more important than Marge's. Marge was just there to flash her breasts at the right time, she knew she was going to get them out anyway)


Bad:
Extremely long Batman scene (It was funny, but it got old fast. Best joke was definitely the carosel reversing spray)
Milhouse and Bart mimicking TV (it's been done -- and done -- and done.)
My breasts are too big for me to hold my baby (thank god they didn't show what I originally thought they would - breastfeeding).
Marge looked unnatural with the breasts, didn't do such a great job of animating her.
Mixing too many characters together for the sake of mixing characters (Krusty was unnecessary)
Off-key, off-beat, forced, stupid song.

[Prank Monkey]

I hated it. It was boring.

[George Cauldron]

Not enough full-frontal nudity?

[Oliver]

Can anyone post some framegrabs? The episode doesn't come out for a few weeks in Ireland and I really want to see if Marge looks as ridiculous as I think she will with implants.

[NoOneFamous]

Originally posted by or_smth
Off-key, off-beat, forced, stupid song.

I completely agree. That was, by far, the worst musical number the show has done so far. Not a single laugh, forced lyrics, and a pathetic tune. I usually remember the tune of the musical numbers, but this one was not memorable at all. The whole thing felt so forced that I can just imagine the writers saying, "lets throw in some musical number - that'll get the fans to quit whinning! and they'll think its a classic moment too!" (Well, on the plus side, at least they're trying...)

BTW, after thinking about it more, I'm lowering my grade from 4/5 to 3/5.