Reviews - "The Parent Rap"

[Comic Book Guy]

Post your reviews of the official season 13 premiere here.

[Greg Durand]

It hasn't aired yet...

[Comic Book Guy]

Wow your fast! This is where reviews for the show will go. Seeing as today’s the day of airing, and not much has been said anything about it, opening a topic about it seemed apt. Is that ok with you?

[Greg Durand]

Meh, yeah, but there's just no extra reason you would have to post it early.
Anyway...

[barneybeergumble]

The season premeire is on tonight at 8:00pm on FOX.

[Tomacco]

Here are some reviews:

<b>ZAP2IT: positive </b>

"As if you needed us to tell you the season premiere of "The Simpsons" is good. The way this animated comedy has managed to stay fresh for over 12 years, while a host of other shows have fallen by the wayside, is proof enough of its genius.

The episode opens with Bart and Milhouse "accidentally" stealing Chief Wiggum's police car, which lands the duo in court. Although Milhouse gets away scot-free, Bart is thrown to the wolves when Judge Constance Harm (voiced by guest star Jane Kaczmarek) takes the stand. The punishment? Blaming the parents for not taking their parenting responsibilities seriously, she sentences Homer to be tethered to Bart.

Of course the situation leads to unforeseen complications and annoyances, leading Marge to take control and cut the cord -- which only serves to land her in Harm's way.

So if you really need to hear us say it, the episode is good -- in fact, the 13th-season opener is brilliant. After all, it is "The Simpsons."


<b>Entertainment Weekly: Positive</b>

''Simpsons'' geeks love to pontificate about which season of the show's remarkable 12-year run reigns supreme. (Here's a vote for season 5, boosted by the flawless ''Cape Feare'' and Burns casino episodes.) But what we nerds...um, excuse me, fans often overlook is that even when Matt Groening's animated sitcom fails to bring its A game, it's still (yellow) heads and shoulders above any other comedy on the air. The season 13 premiere is a perfect example of such run-of-the-mill excellence. When Bart ends up crashing Chief Wiggum's police cruiser, he finds himself (and negligent father Homer) at the mercy of Judge Constance Harm (voiced by ''Malcolm in the Middle'''s Jane Kaczmarek). There's nothing splashy about it, but in an era when other long-running hits are resorting to weddings and babies to generate viewer interest, it's always refreshing to see a show stay simple while hamming it up. Mmmmmm, ham...
A-

<b>USA Today: Mixed/ Negative </b>

Go to the following link to read it:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/tv/2001-11-09-king-simpsons.htm

[Centaur]

I wouldnt' read reviews and I would try to avoid spoilers. A big reason why I liked "The Parent Rap" was because I didn't know exactly what would happen. Those reviews give everything away.

[J.Re*]

What is with USAToday they've said both episodes so far are horrible and we know that THOHXII was good. I hope thy're wrong about this episode too. I think they have someone very angry writing reviews lately

[Ilia]

Originally posted by Centaur
I wouldnt' read reviews and I would try to avoid spoilers. A big reason why I liked "The Parent Rap" was because I didn't know exactly what would happen. Those reviews give everything away. How can you like the premiere if it didn't even air yet?

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Centaur
I wouldnt' read reviews and I would try to avoid spoilers. A big reason why I liked "The Parent Rap" was because I didn't know exactly what would happen. Those reviews give everything away. Did you secretly, illegally watch the "Parent Rap" somehow? Because how could you say you like it with out seeing it?

[bartimus prime]

Because how could you say you like it with out seeing it?

The same way he saw THOH XII before us...

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Bart-Man


The same way he saw THOH XII before us... and, what way is that?

[Ilia]

http://www.fox.com/promobc/images/promob_sun_2.gif
heh heh. The guy probably is working for some "Enterntainment Weekly" type magazine and gets to see the episodes before the actual public airing.

[Centaur]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble

and what way is that

can't say

not hard to find anyways on your own

anyways, i only do it because my tv is tiny, and i get lousy reception

[bartimus prime]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
and, what way is that?

I dunno, but he did. And why are you arguing?, we're gonna see it in 20 minutes from now.

[barneybeergumble]

I'm watching KOTH now, before the simpsons and I didn't laugh once. turn it off! turn it off! put on simpsons!

[Sea Blast Homer]

I'm watching the Simpsons now....cool opening....VERY cool Odd world commercial...heh.....

[barneybeergumble]

:LOL: That episodes was funny. Like when Homer says about the judges quilt: "Oh, but it didn't cost you any money" :LOL: Best Season 13 episode so far.

[barneybeergumble]

Does anyone know what next weeks episode will be? I missed it.

[Handsome Pete]

Review: The Parent Rap

Not as good as ThoH XII, but still entertaining. There was more of a story this time around, and I kinda did like Snake wondering if the judge was really once a "dude". I also liked the blackboard gag a lot. Jokes were consistant, but not hystericaly funny. Strong start to the season anyway.

Grade: 86% (B)

Gotta go: Malcom in the Middle is on!

[Tomacco]

The episode on a whole was pretty average, but there were some old-style simpsons signs in the episode. For one, when was the last time we heard Marge make a serious loving speech like she did infront of the judge? Same with Bart. The episode was like a more extreme "There's No Disgrace Like Home". A good ending too.

[cyben5150]

eh..i didnt really care for this one. it started off ok, but once the tether was cut...the whole judge speaking through the cable...then the stocks..just didnt do it for me. there were a couple good lines, like the hobos 'bout time i got some recognition' and the judges 'you remind me of when i was a little boy.' my main thing is i think it was the realism and character development that made the show great. this episode doesnt make enough use of its secondary characters and it is largely unrealistic

[Stitchface]

I loved this episode!Alot of other characters showed up like Snake,Wiggum etc. Oh god now Malcolm is on,I cant stand all this Jane Maczmarek..

[lisa_the_greek]

Great episode! I loved how the ending made sense, and what was in between was great! King of the Hill was also awesome.... Good job!

[Jake]

Not the most entertaining episode and Homer was a jerkass again, but it did have some amusing moments like the break in at the Judge's boat house, but overall it's a C-.

On the positive side, it was better than the shit-tackular premier last year.

Jake

[Tirefire]

My favorite part is the Homer attacked by Cobra's dream.
It reminded me of when he used the Mr. Cleanser in
Bart Gets An Elephant and was being attacked by the
hallucinations and Marge told him to stop screaming so loud.
I felt the episode had some good memorable parts, but lacked
a lot of solid humor all the way through. Nevertheless, a good start to the main episodes of the 13th season.
I'd give it a B-

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Jake
Not the most entertaining episode and Homer was a jerkass again, but it did have some amusing moments like the break in at the Judge's boat house, but overall it's a C-.

On the positive side, it was better than the shit-tackular premier last year.

Jake Here he goes again with his jerkass homer complaints. I've been wondering, what is your definition of jerkass, and why is it bad at all?

[James]

Overall Grade: B

I thought it was inventive, and had some good moments, such as when Lisa talked to Snake and Chief Wiggum at Lardlad Donuts. Also, it took place in the community of Springfield more than many recents, with scenes at SNPP, Lardlad, and court. But there were the bad points. Like many Scully episodes, it began well but did not stay on focus and became "wacky". The plot lost hold of itself and veered into a somewhat funny nowhere. Funny parts, but overall, seemed very Scullyish towards the end.

[J.Re*]

I enjoyed the episode a lot. It had very funny consistent jokes and the plot made sense. It is definitely gonna be a different Simpsons this season from last season. The ending came together real well with a nice way to get back at big meanie (only one way to express what she is)
click for a more in depth opinion from me... (http://www.happy-dude.cjb.net)


"What did she say about cupcakes?"

[bartimus prime]

The Parent Rap was cool. Very funny.

My fave scene was the "spanking scene"

"Worst Parents ever" --CBG, a new quote.

And Nelson was extremely funny!

[SuperShaneSpear]

Grade B-

Moe had both of my favorite lines tonight with "I caught heat ever since those Bush girls were in here..." and "Yeah, I steal now." The fiberoptics things was way too corny and stupid, and I'm wondinging if Marge has just givin up on her son by the way she is so ho-hum towards Bart's trouble.

[Jessica Lovejoy]

I thought it was an okay episode, much better than the season 11 and 12 premieres. The spanking scene was hilarious (WORST PARENTS EVER!) as was the part where the judge revealed that she used to be a boy...ha.

Overall, I give it a B.

[thecapecoddah]

Not bad, from what I saw... but it wasn't anything great either. I still have to see the first third of the episode..... so I'll give it a more in-depth review later on. The episode ran about 7 minutes late where I live, for whatever reason... I had just gotten out of work when I came home to see the second act.

"Worst parents ever!"

[blockyourfather]

When I first found out Bart and Homer being tethered together at all times, I thought the episode would be awesome. However, the main plot seemed to shift from Bart and Homer being tethered to Marge and Homer attempting to get back at Judge Harm to quickly. Although a bit overused, Homer's cobra nightmares were still funny. I think the highlight of the show was when Homer was dragged through the dirty, glass filled baseball field. Overall, I give it a B.

[bartimus prime]

Originally posted by Number One
The episode ran about 7 minutes late where I live, for whatever reason.

Yeah in here too. King of the Hill, and Malcolm in the Middle too.

[Beyerstein]

I didnt like it, it was too wacky

The Simpsons is becoming Family Guy and that's nota good thing

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Number One
The episode ran about 7 minutes late where I live, for whatever reason...Same thing happened to me. I don't know what FOX was thinking

[Smilin'JoeFission]

I think it was because of the football game.

I loved the episode. Finally we get to see more of Judge Snyder! It would have been funnier if Phil Hartman was still alive to do Hutz's voice. Oh well.

There were some great scenes and quotes in this episode. can't wait for next week's.

[ILikeTheSimpsons]

I thought the episode was great! I give it an A-. When I first heard about this episode, I didn't think the plot was all that great. Homer and Bart being tethered together? But they really handled it well...it wasn't exactly what I thought it would be, I laughed every 15 seconds! The ending made sense too! The only thing that was a little off was the judge's face in the cord...they could have done that better. But it was a great episode. My favorite scene (only seeing it once so far) was the scene with Homer and Marge making out on the bed with Bart reading at the bottom of their bed. I was wondering what was going to happen when they went to bed...hilarious. Great premiere, hope the whole season goes like this.

[Greg Durand]

Anyway, now that it has aired, I saw it. Not too bad, some good laughs. Now, I'm sure this season will be good. I'm glad Homer made sense tonight.
Grade: A-.

[DotheBartman]

Wow, this one was alot better than some of the recent ones. I enjoyed the spanking scene (Worst parents ever!), Moe's crack about the Bush girls, and Bart's prank on Flanders near the beginning (when was the last time we saw Bart doing pranks?). The humor in general could have been more consistent, but it was overall very good. Also, for once the episode felt truly plot driven (rather than Homer's stupidity driven), and I really enjoyed that.

Grade: B

[Mr. Plow]

cant wait 2 hear the review from tomacco!

[Lenny]

Here's what I liked:
-the old lady and Wiggum at the coffee place.
-the scene where Homer and Marge go to the houseboat.
-the cupcake quote by Homer
-the scene where Homer and Marge are at Flanders'es'
-some other laugh out loud moments that I can't remember.
-the humor overall was a lot better than last year's season opener(and most of last year's episodes, for that matter.)

Here's what I disliked:
-the whole fiberoptic thing. That was just stupid and unrealistic.
-the whole bed scene. Where they are about to have sex in front of Bart. That's just kinda going too far.

Overall, I'd give it a B+. It might have deserved an A if they didnt have that fiberoptic thingy.

[Tomacco]

I just wrote the most complicated deep review I've ever wriiten, for this episode of course. Follow this link, and tell me what you think:

www.thespringfieldshopper.com/reviewcabf22.htm

[Lenny]

oh i forgot about the cobras nite terror. that was hilarious.

[radiationdude7]

I thought the episode was a huge success. It was very good. I thought season 12 was mediocre. This looks to be a huge turnaround.

Grade: A (best being A+ obviously)

[Ilia]

Come on, people! How can you give this an A? Yes, it did have some good jokes, but it clearly wasn't one of the best. I was closer to "season 11, 12" average
Satiring the law: one judge lets everyone go, the other one punishes everyone, now that's sad
Homer and Marge plotting revenge 'nuff said
switches from comedy to emotional to WB toon to Family Guy
Too much sex themed jokes
poor, poor moleman
Third act goes off the topic, as it tends to do in almost every episode in the past few seasons
What was really the episode statement? Let boys be boys? What a load of ---

3/5
BI.....................G MEANIE

[Centaur]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I just wrote the most complicated deep review I've ever wriiten, for this episode of course.

Yah, that's the thing. The Simpsons is not complicated and deep. Themes or morality should maybe constitute 20% of how good an episode is. But that's like the whole focus of your review, talking about the different underlying themes of the different parts. That's what english teachers do. I don't like english teachers. I'm not using the 'it's a cartoon' argument. What I am doing here is pointing out how people who do lengthy reviews dig too deep and miss the basic point of, was this a funny episode.

The first time I saw this, I laughed a lot. It was very funny.

The waitress lady saying "HaH" like three times, that was funny.

And other quick surprising lines, like "Well, this is unorthodox... so no!".

And the firm breasts remark, ya expected Marge to say that Constance Harm must not have kids because she's such a meanie, but Marge instead noted her firm breasts.

And Homer "Hey, I know! I'll become a milk man!" Marge "Focus, Homer."

And when Homer hit his head, he immediately needed a beer, that was strange and funny, "Moe I hit my head, I need a beer".

And it looks like Homer and Bart are leaving the bar together, but they cut to the next shot and show Bart outside while Homer drinks.

Just lots of funny, surprising things that made this episode solid. Marge never gave in to say they were bad parents. Hey looks like she's a strong woman, a strong parent. Hey, that looks like a theme! Seeing as how that only accounts for about 20% of what I care about in a Simpsons episode, looks like they did a fine job there.

So, overall, great job, great ep, Tomacco. If your gonna write lenghty reviews, don't lose perspective on what the objective of the show is, to make people laugh. It made me laugh. There was even some emotional parts. Gooood enough for me.


As for Jake, dude just stop watching. Homer is who he is now. He is not going to become the season 1 and 2 Homer. That ain't gonna happen. Get over it. If I ever see the word jerkass again, I'm gonna vomit. That word means nothing to me. It's meaningless. Homer is who he is. He's funny. He has changed with the times. Some people apparently haven't.

[Tomacco]

The main point of the review was that it the plot and theme of the episode couldnt seem to figure out what it was trying to do. I think most everyone here thinks plot is important in an episode. Plus, I made it lose marks because I didn't think the jokes were THAT funny. The reason I made it so long was so I could properly explain what I was saying. Believe me, I don't usually write reviews like this. Read ALL my other episode reviews, and you'll see. BUT there's more to 'funny' to the SImpsons. Maybe not to shows like Family Guy, which has always been about pure laughs. But Simpsons has always been about heart, story, and flat-out good writing, as well as comedy.

[Rowdy]

Centaur, are you downloading the episodes ahead of time? ET had an article on that a while back about how the episodes are in satelites about a week ahead of time and hackers download them.

Good review, Jonah. Your best yet and the new grading scale works much better.

As for the episode, the first act was hilarious, but two and three were mostly suck. I laughed once in the second act and once at the end of the third when the credits started playing "Don't Fear The Reaper." Overall, the last two acts were at least interesting even though they weren't funny, so I'm going to give this episode a 3/5.

Season 12 vs. Season 13

THOH XI: 5/5
A Tale Of Two Springfields: 2/5
Total: 7/10

THOH XII: 2/5
The Parent Rap: 3/5
Total: 5/10

Current Leader: Season 12

[thecapecoddah]

You still have the two THOH scores mixed up, Rowdy. :D

[Jake]

Originally posted by Centaur
As for Jake, dude just stop watching.

Don't tell me what to do.

Homer is who he is now. He is not going to become the season 1 and 2 Homer. That ain't gonna happen. Get over it.

Homer has. I found Season 12 to be the best characterized "Homer" of the past five seasons. Maybe you've seen it.

If I ever see the word jerkass again, I'm gonna vomit. That word means nothing to me. It's meaningless. Homer is who he is. He's funny. He has changed with the times. Some people apparently haven't.

Go right ahead and vomit, I'm sure your toilet can be flushed more than once. And don't be a hypocrite. If "Jerkass" had not semantic meaning, you wouldn't have fired off you sophomoronic, juvenille response.

[Centaur]

Originally posted by Rowdy
Centaur, are you downloading the episodes ahead of time? ET had an article on that a while back about how the episodes are in satelites about a week ahead of time and hackers download them.



Yes and no. Yes, I get em ahead of time. No, I don't hack into satellites.

I don't wanna get into specifics about how the encoders are capturing the eps. I wouldn't want a network person to read this and develop a workaround. I wonder if they are aware of how much the tv capping scene has exploded in the last year. Heh, I hope not.

[Centaur]

Originally posted by Jake


If "Jerkass" had not semantic meaning, you wouldn't have fired off you sophomoronic, juvenille response.


The word itself means nothing to me in regards to Homer.

The only meaning that word has for me is the feeling it invokes when I read the reviews of people who used that word in their reviews of middle season eps at snpp.com.

When I first got on the internet like 5,6 years ago, I started going to Simpsons web sites. And I was like, what the fuck? Jerkass Homer? Wtf are they talking about at snpp? The middle season eps were great.
To me, there never was and there still is no such thing as jerkass Homer. The middles seasons were simply perfect. I never saw fit to attach that derogatory word towards Homer in describing what are classic episodes. So whenever I see that word now, I question the perspective from which that reviewer is coming from. People who used that word years ago obviously were wrong about those eps.


And I don't know where people are coming up with strange views about Season 12. It wasn't vastly different from 10,11, or 13. Homer is not experiencing wild swings and changes of character in this short span of years. What next? Next week, you'll think he's normal, and then the following week, you'll declare him a jerkass.

It is for those above reasons that the word "jerkass" really has no meaning for me in regards to describing Homer.

[Beyerstein]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I made it lose marks because I didn't think the jokes were THAT funny.

Right. I didn't really laugh the entire show. It was lame. and they're making it too wacky.

[Doaho]

Not a bad episode but not great either.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Centaur
The only meaning that word has for me is the feeling it invokes when I read the reviews of people who used that word in their reviews of middle season eps at snpp.com.

As far as I can remember, "Jerkass" doesn't predate "Joy of Sect" before Homer yelled: "Outta my way, Jerkass!".

When I first got on the internet like 5,6 years ago, I started going to Simpsons web sites. And I was like, what the fuck? Jerkass Homer? Wtf are they talking about at snpp? The middle season eps were great.

No arguement here. I was a non-computer CBG who defended the show against people who said season 5-7 sucked.

To me, there never was and there still is no such thing as jerkass Homer. The middles seasons were simply perfect. I never saw fit to attach that derogatory word towards Homer in describing what are classic episodes. So whenever I see that word now, I question the perspective from which that reviewer is coming from. People who used that word years ago obviously were wrong about those eps.

IMO, I think it's wrong to compare the Modern Homer to the "Classic" Homer from the fifth-seventh season. He was the best those years and Season 12's Homer, other than A Tale of Two Springfields, came pretty damn close. (barneybeergumble, shut up) Also, my term is most valid since the show has become far more Homercentric since the middle seasons.

You can tell me not to watch it, but then I'd miss Marge, Lisa, Bart, and the Other One.

Jake

[rockdiva]

"Parent Rap" was good. No, it wasn't the best, but it beat most of season 12.

[lisa_the_greek]

NM...

[:bang:]

Some of the stuff was funny, but it seemed like they had half an episode, and just put a bunch of silly stuff around. Seems like they kind of half-assed this one. I liked, but it wasn't great. Kind of disappointing for a season premier, but its not like I changed the channel or anything. I'll give it a B-

[thewisteron]

I agree with Lenny. Marge and Homer contemplating sex with Bart in the room was a bit too much. However, I laughed nonstop while Homer was having his Cobra nightmares. Oh, man that was funny. I also agree that the fiberoptics thing was stupid. B+.

[Mr. Rogers]

Alot Better Than The Last Two Season Premires :D

[KingSizeHomer]

Don't pay much attention to Jake, he is just some member from the Fox Simpsons Messageboards
Let him base episode grades entirely on Homer's mood

I thought this episode was absolutely hilarious! Especially the part where Ned gets rid of his pants, haha!

[crazyhomer]

It was a very good episode. "Im back from my vacation!"... "but i was going to bang my gavel thingy"... "ill take over from here"..."but"..."THE CLOWN IS DOWN!" I just liked how the judges switched places in the middle of the trial! That was very funny, and how the teather was fiber obtics...That was sweet!

[Centaur]

Yah, the fiberoptic thingy didn't seem as farfetched as people say. People in real life where electronic monitoring devices as a result of court orders. It's only natural to assume that the court would be able to electronically monitor whether Bart and Homer were still attached.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Centaur


Yah, that's the thing. The Simpsons is not complicated and deep. Themes or morality should maybe constitute 20% of how good an episode is. But that's like the whole focus of your review, talking about the different underlying themes of the different parts. That's what english teachers do. I don't like english teachers. I'm not using the 'it's a cartoon' argument. What I am doing here is pointing out how people who do lengthy reviews dig too deep and miss the basic point of, was this a funny episode.

The first time I saw this, I laughed a lot. It was very funny.

The waitress lady saying "HaH" like three times, that was funny.

And other quick surprising lines, like "Well, this is unorthodox... so no!".

And the firm breasts remark, ya expected Marge to say that Constance Harm must not have kids because she's such a meanie, but Marge instead noted her firm breasts.

And Homer "Hey, I know! I'll become a milk man!" Marge "Focus, Homer."

And when Homer hit his head, he immediately needed a beer, that was strange and funny, "Moe I hit my head, I need a beer".

And it looks like Homer and Bart are leaving the bar together, but they cut to the next shot and show Bart outside while Homer drinks.

Just lots of funny, surprising things that made this episode solid. Marge never gave in to say they were bad parents. Hey looks like she's a strong woman, a strong parent. Hey, that looks like a theme! Seeing as how that only accounts for about 20% of what I care about in a Simpsons episode, looks like they did a fine job there.

So, overall, great job, great ep, Tomacco. If your gonna write lenghty reviews, don't lose perspective on what the objective of the show is, to make people laugh. It made me laugh. There was even some emotional parts. Gooood enough for me.


As for Jake, dude just stop watching. Homer is who he is now. He is not going to become the season 1 and 2 Homer. That ain't gonna happen. Get over it. If I ever see the word jerkass again, I'm gonna vomit. That word means nothing to me. It's meaningless. Homer is who he is. He's funny. He has changed with the times. Some people apparently haven't.


I agree with everything you said in that post, the Simpsons is meant to make you laugh, it's not suppose to be realistic and boring. Television shows have changed alot in the past 10 years, the Simpsons has too...Homer will not change back from the "jerkass" Homer to the old less funny Homer.

This whole episode was suppose to be kind of wacky, the Simpsons has been exploring other kinds of humor, wacky humor...humor that makes you think "what the..." (then you laugh).

Stop saying every new episode is unrealistic, and would never happen...would you really want the Simpsons to be totally realistic and only address things that would happen in real life?

And, yes, Homer has become the main main character in the show, lots of the past few seasons have revolved around him...because he is the funniest, and he can be so many different things and he can be used in almost any way.

It is just a cartoon show, no matter how you look at it. It's whole purpose is to entertain and make you laugh. You don't need to break it down to pieces and explain in high detail why it wasn't good because it wasn't realistic. That is just stupid IMO.

And some people didn't like that moleman under the car thing? Oh my god, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that. Hans is a feeble old man who is suppose to be used in those kind of ways, he's a gag character...like alot of them.

So, for the people that can only bitch and whine that the Simpsons is too wacky and not funny anymore and constantly insult it on this board and others, don't watch it...no one is forcing you to.

[frinkfloiven]

This episode didn't really do it for me (thought the one liners from the judge got wicked old and tired after the first few :( ) but I don't think it was a terrible start to the season. I guess I'd give it a C plus. I definitely preferred the THOH episode which I thought was excellent---definitely an A or A+ from me.

The "plus on the C" is from one quick gag at the beginning of the episode...it was a blink and you'll miss it moment that was laugh out loud funny at least for me. Did anyone else catch Bart almost being run over by Frink on a rocket cycle of somesort muhayy with the speeding and the going verrrrr-y fas?. Sorry....frink moment.

CRC

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Jake
(barneybeergumble, shut up)never talk about me again. go fuck yourself.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Rich
is just a cartoon show, no matter how you look at it. It's whole purpose is to entertain and make you laugh. You don't need to break it down to pieces and explain in high detail why it wasn't good because it wasn't realistic. That is just stupid IMO. The Simpsons is not really your ordinary Saturday Morning cartoon show for 5 year olds. It's more of an animated TV sitcom.

And some people didn't like that moleman under the car thing? Oh my god, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that. Hans is a feeble old man who is suppose to be used in those kind of ways, he's a gag character...like alot of them. Ya, that was really funny with moleman getting crushed. :LOL:

So, for the people that can only bitch and whine that the Simpsons is too wacky and not funny anymore and constantly insult it on this board and others, don't watch it...no one is forcing you to. I agree with you 100%.

[mother shabubu]

it was funny. i laughed, i cried, it was a feel good episode.

best quote: "i put the clown down. i said, the clown is down."

the fiber optics part was a little far fetched, and i especially didn't like the malcolm in the middle lady's voice as the judge. i thought the judge to looked a lot like judg judy, so it would have been cooler if they got her to do the voice.

[Kenny Brockelstien]

AUUUUGGGGHHHH!!! I missed the show last night! I went to the stupid movies with my stupid boss to see stupid shallow hal!!! I hope I get to see it in a prime time rerun before it gets to syndication. It totally slipped my mind to set up my vcr to tape it. I'm an idiot! *throws self off cliff*

[James]

Barney, the reason people who "bitch and wine about the show being too wacky" is because they are brave enough to say they don't like how something beloved is going. And another reason is that there still are good episodes, some as great as the old ones. We don't hate the show, we just are mad at a gems neglect and mistreatment.

[Smilin'JoeFission]

Originally posted by Kenny Brockelstien
AUUUUGGGGHHHH!!! I missed the show last night! I went to the stupid movies with my stupid boss to see stupid shallow hal!!! I hope I get to see it in a prime time rerun before it gets to syndication. It totally slipped my mind to set up my vcr to tape it. I'm an idiot! *throws self off cliff*

They'll show it again...they always end up doing that...

[Wiggle Puppy]

Awesome. Nuf said.

Funniest part: Judge Harm,"You can't spit on my cupcake and call it frosting." Homer,"What did she say about cupcakes?!?"

[Centaur]

Originally posted by FlandersEVIL
Barney, the reason people who "bitch and wine about the show being too wacky" is because they are brave enough to say they don't like how something beloved is going. And another reason is that there still are good episodes, some as great as the old ones. We don't hate the show, we just are mad at a gems neglect and mistreatment.

Most of them aren't brave. Many are brainwashed, retarded sheep who didn't even get everything in "The Parent Rap". That show was packed with lots of good stuff that they missed.

They went in having read all the reviews and spoilers. They knew exactly what would happen story-wise, and they desperately and bizarrely focused on their hope for a different Homer.

Meanwhile, I went in with an open mind, having read very few spoilers at all. I chilled, I listened closely for everything, there was lots of good stuff there, and I enjoyed what was a solid episode.

Don't turn every episode review thread into this retarded anti-Homer anti-wacky thing, folks.

How about for the remainder of the episodes this season, you don't read the media reviews, you don't read the spoilers, you guys quit being sheep and just have some fun.

Quit buying into what people are telling you how Homer should act. He is very funny. People have convinced you he's not supposed to act this way. Screw them. Enjoy the show, have fun. There is no jerkass Homer. You're misinterpreting what is supposed to be funny. It's like you guys are watching a real guy doing things and you're saying, boy what a jerk. To 95% of the people watching, the word jerk never crosses their mind.

This doesn't mean anything goes, total wackiness. That's not what I'm saying. See, "The Parent Rap" had some minor themes I guess with Marge being a strong parent and all. That's pretty much all I want theme-wise. The rest was packed with lots of humor, lots of which was subtle and lost on most people.

Anyways, I ramble. But, most of what I say is true. The show has not been hijacked. I submit that most of your guys' enjoyment of the show has been hijacked by what others have told you the show should be.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Does anyone know what next weeks episode will be? I missed it. Is no one answering simply because they don't know yet?

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Is no one answering simply because they don't know yet?

Go to nohomers.net or thespringfieldshopper.com You'll find it both places, and the latter has a nice schedule on the side for episodes after that.

[James]

I only read a basic plot outline for it, saying that Homer and Bart got tied to each other. I didn't read many spoilers, and I thought Homer was good there, less dumb than in other episodes. It also had some good material. I gave it a B+.

[barneybeergumble]

I never bother to read any previews or episode spoilers. It's better not to know what will happen before you see it.

[thugie]

A very weak episode that wasn't helped by the fact that we had audio trouble here on the Tampa affiliate and couldn't hear the first 3 minutes.

The Simpson clan seemed too goofy. and what was that fiber optic wackiness.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by thugie
The Simpson clan seemed too goofy. and what was that fiber optic wackiness. Hey, all of us should stop picking on the fiber-optic part so much. Yes, I agree it was pretty stupid, but it's not going to change anything.

[Tomacco]

Centaur, I'm afraid you're getting really out of line, and I would watch it if I were you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion here. We don't really appreciate any member-bashing because of their episode reviews. A few good-natured barbs are alright, but that's it.

I personally don't think people are brainwashed in any way. I respect people who dislike Homer now, because he has changed a lot compared to how he was throughout most of the show's run, and people have the right to dislike the "new" Homer. Just like people have the right to dislike this episode. The Simpsons is in fact about characters, and story, as well as just laughs.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Tomacco
I personally don't think people are brainwashed in any way. I respect people who dislike Homer now, because he has changed a lot compared to how he was throughout most of the show's run, and people have the right to dislike the "new" Homer. Just like people have the right to dislike this episode. The Simpsons is in fact about characters, and story, as well as just laughs. Homer changed since the older seasons. Homer changes. People change. Get over it.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Homer changed since the older seasons. Homer changes. People change. Get over it.

Barney, he was just saying that people are entitled to their opinions. I know you like the newer episodes on the same level as the older ones, but many people here don't. You're entitled to your opinion, and they are entitled to theirs. If you don't agree, you can state your opinion, as can they, but neither of you should insult each other over it or claim that the other person's opinion is invalid. Just respect that alot of people here don't feel the same way you do about the newer episodes, and the newer Homer, and they'll respect your opinion.

[Ilia]

Which simply means that the next time you're going to say that "New Simpsons rule" or "Get over it" for a zilionth time, just keep it to yourself, cuz most of members here are tired of your remarks.

[barneybeergumble]

Originally posted by Ilia
Which simply means that the next time you're going to say that "New Simpsons rule" or "Get over it" for a zilionth time, just keep it to yourself, cuz most of members here are tired of your remarks. There are also people tired of "New simpsons episodes suck" comments just as well.

[Ilia]

Well, people who say the episode wasn't very enterntaining AKA "sucked" have their reasons, and they communicate to each other how others felt about the episode...there's no reason for calling them "brainwashed sheep", and there will never be.

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
There are also people tired of "New simpsons episodes suck" comments just as well.

Maybe, but you shouldn't insult them. They have their opinions, you have yours.

[Tomacco]

Thanks DotheBartman for clarifying my point to barneybeergumble. You beat me to it. :)

[DotheBartman]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Thanks DotheBartman for clarifying my point to barneybeergumble. You beat me to it. :)

Your welcome, I just get tired of peole spamming/flaming each other on this board. Its supposed to be for discussion, not for what a few select people are turning it into by insulting each other instead of respecting each others' opinions

[Centaur]

Originally posted by Tomacco
Centaur, I'm afraid you're getting really out of line, and I would watch it if I were you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion here. We don't really appreciate any member-bashing because of their episode reviews. A few good-natured barbs are alright, but that's it.

I personally don't think people are brainwashed in any way. I respect people who dislike Homer now, because he has changed a lot compared to how he was throughout most of the show's run, and people have the right to dislike the "new" Homer. Just like people have the right to dislike this episode. The Simpsons is in fact about characters, and story, as well as just laughs.

Yah, I did ramble on a bit. But, it is well known that for any popular tv show, musical group, whatever, there exists the old-schooler/i'm cool/new stuff sux mentality. And then, maybe a few months later, they catch a re-run, and they're like, hey wait a minute this ep was pretty good. Watch some season 10 eps. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

And then there's the .. what were the deep themes mentality, which is annoying too.

Just pointing out things that exist. Not intending to insult too much. But we should have a bit of freedom to say what we think, as do you.

Edit:
Oh, and I don't believe I ever said it was just about the laughs. I believe I said that "themes" should constitute about 20% of how you judge an episode. A theme-less ep can be very good. Reviews often say ... oh well they started on such and such a theme, then they wandered, then they started this theme, and they ended up cramming stuff in 30 minutes... so therefore .. i give it a 'C'. And I'm like, dude, put down the pad and pencil and watch the ep, it's really funny.

k i'm done heh, please don't ban or nothin, just typin stuff to mix things up a bit, cause things get boring

[DAntae]

all i will say is i enjoyed the episode. i have seen much better and much worse. i think it was a decent way to start off a season, besides for once bart didnt lie. (it was an accident) plus "boys will be boys" just loved that. eh well. end tranmission

[blinkie@3eyes]

No matter how you rank it is was still the best show on this week, and welcome back! I didn't think it was a great episode but their were some hilarous moments. Moe was fantastic, what with the line about the Bush girls, The public spanking with CBG & Nelson. I think those were my two best episode moments. Would someone who taped it, or remembers real good please tell me what Marge said when leaving the court house in the stocks? Did my ears decieve me?

[Jake]

Originally posted by Centaur


Most of them aren't brave. Many are brainwashed, retarded sheep who didn't even get everything in "The Parent Rap". That show was packed with lots of good stuff that they missed.

Well, you do have to get into the right mental state before watching new
eps. The first thing to do is shut off enough neurons until you're down
to about a 75 IQ. Then switch off the part of your frontal cortex that
appreciated the intricate and realistic plotting and sharp satire which
used to be associated with the show. Then turn on your cerebellar
"slapstick and fart-joke cortex" and medullary "zany plot twist"
ganglion. Finally, flop back on the couch and feel your ass grow.


They went in having read all the reviews and spoilers. They knew exactly what would happen story-wise, and they desperately and bizarrely focused on their hope for a different Homer.

I don't know how much "focusing" is needed since Homer took up 50% of the episode. Not to mention most of his dialog was screaming or wallowing in pain. The Simpsons "Yellow" skin probably came in a close second. :P


Meanwhile, I went in with an open mind, having read very few spoilers at all. I chilled, I listened closely for everything, there was lots of good stuff there, and I enjoyed what was a solid episode.

See it's not so bad...they go in through your nose, and they let you
keep the piece of brain they cut out.

Don't turn every episode review thread into this retarded anti-Homer anti-wacky thing, folks.

How about for the remainder of the episodes this season, you don't read the media reviews, you don't read the spoilers, you guys quit being sheep and just have some fun.

"Fun" equals laughing at "Funny Episodes" of The Simpsons, not the Homer Show.

Quit buying into what people are telling you how Homer should act. He is very funny.

Holy hypocrosy, Batman!

People have convinced you he's not supposed to act this way. Screw them. Enjoy the show, have fun. There is no jerkass Homer. You're misinterpreting what is supposed to be funny. It's like you guys are watching a real guy doing things and you're saying, boy what a jerk. To 95% of the people watching, the word jerk never crosses their mind.

What "95%" are you referring to? The 95% of people who like Homer? Also, how am I misinterpeting "Funny"? Has Homer done something culturally signifigant other than flailing his limbs and screaming like a baby?

Loosen up? Hell, if I loosen up anymore, I'll start laughing at (nay: WITH) show's like Full House.

This doesn't mean anything goes, total wackiness. That's not what I'm saying.

You're scaring me. If some of the "jokes" in the modern Homer Show aren't "anything goes, total wackiness", then what is?

See, "The Parent Rap" had some minor themes I guess with Marge being a strong parent and all. That's pretty much all I want theme-wise. The rest was packed with lots of humor, lots of which was subtle and lost on most people.

HOMER: ...Please explain it me, because I'm DYING to know. :rolleyes

Anyways, I ramble. But, most of what I say is true. The show has not been hijacked. I submit that most of your guys' enjoyment of the show has been hijacked by what others have told you the show should be.

These are awfully bold statements to tack on to the end of a message which offers no substantiation whatsoever. I would challenge you to justify such claims, knowing that they otherwise qualify as nothing but Simpsonic propoganda—the same kind of stuff that prompted me to write my opinions in the first place.

You see? This is what you call Faith; people who love the Homer Show must have more of it than the most fervent die-hards. Your ideas have been rebutted for more than three seasons, but they are just rephrased with some obfuscation thrown in, and repeated.

[Jake]

Originally posted by KingSizeHomer
Don't pay much attention to Jake, he is just some member from the Fox Simpsons Messageboards
Let him base episode grades entirely on Homer's mood


But my Mom says I'm cool...

[Jake]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
The Simpsons is not really your ordinary Saturday Morning cartoon show for 5 year olds. It's more of an animated TV sitcom.


Coming from you, I thought you'd take that as a bad thing.

[Jake]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Homer changed since the older seasons. Homer changes. People change. Get over it.

Yeah, and boy bands dominate the music scene right now. If you don't like them then there must be something wrong with YOU.

[Eat_Up_Martha]

Originally posted by Jake
Yeah, and boy bands dominate the music scene right now. If you don't like them then there must be something wrong with YOU.
You're comparing the [over]use and/or alleged "jerkassification" of Homer in recent seasons to the proliferation of boy bands? I don't often agree with barneybeergumble's opinion, but this time he's right. You need to get over it.

Is it your assertion that die-hard fans should not like the way Homer has changed over the years? Because I'm a die-hard fan, and I think he's been the best character on the show almost every season -- jerkass or no jerkass.

[KingSizeHomer]

Stop whining, the Parent Rap was great. No Jerkass Homer. He acted more like an season 6 Homer. Stop copying the SNPP people.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Eat_Up_Martha

You're comparing the [over]use and/or alleged "jerkassification" of Homer in recent seasons to the proliferation of boy bands? I don't often agree with barneybeergumble's opinion, but this time he's right. You need to get over it.


It is a true comparison that backs up what I was saying--Boy Band Music is a part of music like Rock, Rap, Country, etc., like Homer, Marge, and other characters inhabit the diverse Simpsons Universe. But, by your analogy, I should 'get over it' because Homer's become the most popular character. It's like you telling me you're into music and me telling you have to like boy-bands because they're what's in.

Jake

[Eat_Up_Martha]

Originally posted by Jake
It's like you telling me you're into music and me telling you have to like boy-bands because they're what's in.
If you assume I like Homer because he's "popular" or "what's in", then you're a bigger jerkass than I thought you were.

I like Homer because in my opinion (and yes, I am allowed to have one) he has consistenly been one of the funniest characters on the show since its inception -- whether he's acting like a jerkass or not.

I'm not telling you what to like. I'm telling you to stop telling everyone else what to like.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Eat_Up_Martha


If you assume I like Homer because he's "popular" or "what's in", then you're a bigger jerkass than I thought you were.


Part of my message, which I forgot to reply to B.B.G, was that Music has changed to accomodate boy bands, and how the Simpsons have changed to accomodate Homer. As for liking Homer, if you like him, fine. As for me being a jerkass, you haven't seen "jerkass."

[Eat_Up_Martha]

Originally posted by Jake
As for me being a jerkass, you haven't seen "jerkass."
He he...

http://www.kenmoeller.com/images/hulk.jpg
"YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ME WHEN I'M JERKASS..."

[BangBangBart]

I thought it was a pretty funny episode. I loved homer and his night terrors screaming about the cobras. I also thought the drive by spankings were pretty funny. I thought since the mom from malcom in the middle was in it, that it'd be funnier. I think i just have high expectations and didn't think she was so funny in it. Oh well. What was up with Marge point out the judge had firm breasts though i wonder.

[Rich]

Jake...if you feel the Simpsons is too dumb for you, and you feel like you have to lower your intelligence before watching any new eps...then why do you watch them? Seriously, if you don't enjoy most of the new episodes what's the point in tuning in?

Am I dumb now because I enjoy the new episodes? And is Centaur, or Barney? Was the Simpsons ever a highly intelligent show?

And I agree, Homer is funny because he does funny things and makes people like me laugh. What's wrong with that? Was Homer ever a super loving father like you and others say he was in earlier seasons? Hmm...didn't catch that, and if you take a look at newer ones or older ones from a couple years ago it is still obvious he loves his family.

[barneybeergumble]

Eat Up Martha, you have the best signature ever, and the funniest ever. I can't stop laughing! That monkey guy is probably Jake! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[Tomacco]

That's enough. I'm opening a thread where you can discuss if Homer has changed or not in recent years, and if I see 3 more posts about"jerkass Homer" here, I'm closing the topic. It's become more about Homer than the Parent Rap anyways.

[KingSizeHomer]

Jake the Monkey :LOL:
Maybe the www.monstromart.com monkey also thinks Homer is a jerkass, go discuss with him :LOL:

[Jake]

Originally posted by barneybeergumble
Eat Up Martha, you have the best signature ever, and the funniest ever. I can't stop laughing! That monkey guy is probably Jake! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I'm more muscular than that. :smoking:

[Jake]

Originally posted by KingSizeHomer
Jake the Monkey :LOL:
Maybe the www.monstromart.com monkey also thinks Homer is a jerkass, go discuss with him :LOL:

Actually, genius, that's the incredible Hulk.

[Jake]

Originally posted by Rich
Jake...if you feel the Simpsons is too dumb for you, and you feel like you have to lower your intelligence before watching any new eps...then why do you watch them? Seriously, if you don't enjoy most of the new episodes what's the point in tuning in?

Because my reasons is watching the whole family, not just Homer. (And how did this debate turn from Homer's personality in The Parent Rap to the show in general? Oh, wait...)

Am I dumb now because I enjoy the new episodes? And is Centaur, or Barney? Was the Simpsons ever a highly intelligent show?

Centaur decided to bring the "if you hate it you must be a retarded/misguided/brainwashed sheep if you don't find the show as good as ever." And the rest of the posters who loved The Parent Rap screamed "Hate crime!" with him and the rest of this thread is history.

And I agree, Homer is funny because he does funny things and makes people like me laugh. What's wrong with that? Was Homer ever a super loving father like you and others say he was in earlier seasons? Hmm...didn't catch that, and if you take a look at newer ones or older ones from a couple years ago it is still obvious he loves his family.

Its not that you like Homer and think he's cool, it how people can say that Homer is now better than ever, or "when was the show ever intelligent?". The reason you still have a show to watch was becasue of its brilliance the first seven or eight years. When people say: "It doesn't suck just because it's still the Simpsons and you should just be glad to have it around to watch." Pretty intelligent, huh? Most of the posters saying "nothing's changed" back up their reasoning with... air. Nadda. If someone were to put forth some really sound reasoning and observations to the effect that this season's content is on the same level of quality as a few years ago, I'd be more than willing to debate it point by point and be open to their line of thinking. Hell, they just might change my mind. But just saying "Stop complaining and like it no matter what" is just foolish, misguided optimism.

You're entitled to your opinion, and me, mine. We don't have to AGREE with each other. However, when these topics of discussion go from a pontentially healthy exchange of ideas to unkempt one-liners (which myself I'm guilty of), it'll get ugly.

Jake

[Rich]

Yeah, I agree...don't like starting arguements especially with people I think are cool, like yourself.

Oh, and never really graded this episode.

I give it a solid...B.

[Richiewhiteboy]

I think this was a quality episode that had some decent jokes. It wasn't particularly outstanding, but copared to last season it was gold. An actually plausible story helped. I want to say that the show is going to come into its own again, but last season I liked the season premiere, and the rest of the season was entirely disappointing. Some of this episodes highlights were: Cora the waitress at the doughnut shop with Wiggum. "What!": Homer giving judge Harm a non chalant "Hey, how's it going?" after she discovers that they sunk her house. And Homer's "So it cost you nothing." After judge harm says that the quilt destroyed with the house was given to her by her grandmother. Some of the more disapointing moments included the seal on the houseboat dock, and the fiber optics in the tether. I give it 7.3/10

[Richiewhiteboy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tirefire
[B]My favorite part is the Homer attacked by Cobra's dream.

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

[SuperShaneSpear]

HA! I thought I was the only one to catch the rcoket car from Lemon of Troy!

Sure was one of the best parts *snort* glavin. ;)

[Centaur]

Originally posted by Jake




Centaur decided to bring the "if you hate it you must be a retarded/misguided/brainwashed sheep if you don't find the show as good as ever."
Jake

Uhh, no Jake. I never said the show was as good as ever. Nor do I think Homer is at his funniest. Don't twist words ... youuu twister :)

What I have said though is that the show and Homer are still very funny. I always left it at that.

The retarded sheep argument was just the people who bought into the whole Homer jerkass thing. I still don't buy that.

It's insulting that you would throw me into the "Simpsons rulezzz dudezzz" group of people. Anyone could see by now that I obviously ain't one of them.

I actually disliked last season a little bit. Still funny, but you guys liked it more than 11, which I thought was better.

So there :smoking:

[Ryan]

i thought it really sucked. It was lame and boring. I only laughed out loud once. Last week's episode THOH12 Was WAY better.

[Cole]

The Parent Rap is just airing in Australia, Ryan? Well, you have some so-so episodes ahead, one or two bad ones, and then several excellent Al Jean episodes. Pleasant viewing down under.